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originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Spider879
Now, I love freedom. Freedom of speech, freedom of assembly. I am a massive fan of these and other liberties afforded to residents of nations which at least pretend to have some righteous elements in the construction of their law. But the right to these things comes with some hefty responsibilities. If you have the right to speak freely, you have the responsibility to ensure that the speech you engage in is of high quality, contains facts not falsehoods, and is not driven by the least, but instead by the most noble elements within your mind and heart.
What Mr Nugent has done there, is essentially abuse the rights he has, with the aim of causing yet more division between people, than was already the case. So, he is free as a bird to make the statement he made, but he has failed in his responsibility to keep the quality and legitimacy of his utterances, at a high, not a low ebb.
originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: TheBulk
Well first of all TheBulk, I simply did not see the threads you are referring to.
If I had, I would have been fairly put out, both because I take personal offence to the concept, and because the concept does not promote healthy attitudes toward race at all. My personal view is that there is only and only ever was, one race, that of humanity as a whole, and that any doctrine, ideology, or philosophy which wishes to take issue with that point, can officially get in the sea, no matter who its authors may have been.
originally posted by: TheBulk
a reply to: Gryphon66
What's your opinion on the fact 6% of this country which is (Black Men) commit over half the violent crime in this country? You guys are always so outraged about a couple words, but you turned a complete Blind Eye to the reality of the situation.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
originally posted by: TheBulk
a reply to: Gryphon66
What's your opinion on the fact 6% of this country which is (Black Men) commit over half the violent crime in this country? You guys are always so outraged about a couple words, but you turned a complete Blind Eye to the reality of the situation.
You know what my opinion is as we've hashed out the absurdity of your statement on several occasions.
You know very well that your statement is utterly inaccurate.
However, this thread is about the idiot Ted Nugent, about which I have also made my opinion clear.
The analysis
It’s true that around 13 per cent of Americans are black, according to the latest estimates from the US Census Bureau.
And yes, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, black offenders committed 52 per cent of homicides recorded in the data between 1980 and 2008. Only 45 per cent of the offenders were white. Homicide is a broader category than “murder” but let’s not split hairs.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
Not to chime in, but I'd like to make a quick answer ... yes, I think Nugent does negatively affect a racial group ... if anyone, anywhere thinks that he represents the majority of White Americans in anyway, shape, form or fashion.
originally posted by: WilburnRoach
a reply to: Spider879
I think Ted is preaching to the new GOP base, the alt right media is fueled by this type of racist rhetoric.
originally posted by: TheBulk
originally posted by: Gryphon66
Not to chime in, but I'd like to make a quick answer ... yes, I think Nugent does negatively affect a racial group ... if anyone, anywhere thinks that he represents the majority of White Americans in anyway, shape, form or fashion.
What do you think has more effect? This random person saying an off-the-cuff remark or a university that teaches students that whiteness needs to be ended? I only ask because there is a very inconsistent reaction to the two events.
What's your opinion on the fact 6% of this country which is (Black Men) commit over half the violent crime in this country?
You guys are always so outraged about a couple words, but you turned a complete Blind Eye to the reality of the situation.
originally posted by: TheBulk
This type of racist rhetoric against whites is mainstream and common on the left and taught in universities now.