Proof that evolution is the only answer

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Raggedyman

And here we go again. Strawman after strawman.

I'm not going to bother explaining science to someone who clearly doesn't want to understand it.

Ok how about you state categorically that adaptations are evolution.
I need a new signature, that would be cool

a reply to: Raggedyman

How about you state what the "many problems" are in MES?

Oh that's right, you can't. You just want emperical evidence so you can ignore it.

Worst. Troll. Ever.

If humanity can somehow manage to survive long enough without killing itself, there may be a day when science learns how to create life from scratch. There may be a day science learns enough to create a new species, designed and conceived in a lab, and raised to adulthood, and which also has the ability to procreate.

That new life form would then have to deal with the environment, deal with life itself, and adapt to its surroundings. It's offspring will not be perfect, it could be subject to mutations due to the environment ,and other forces, and even design defects. These mutations can be good or bad, and they could be passed down to the next generation. So on and so forth.

Seeing how technology advances at a somewhat steady pace, and how small improvements from one model to the next are just how things progress, it wouldn't be hard to imagine that the first life form created would get an update and a second life form would be created. It would be very similar to the first life form, but with improvements. The scientists used the same design, copied parts of the code, and improved parts too. To outsiders, the second life form would look like the first life form just evolved, but it too was just redesigned and created in a lab.

That is when creationism and evolution would coexist. Life was created and it evolved. It was designed, then redesigned, and then it evolved from there too.

Lets hope humanity doesn't go to war with itself and kill almost every human on the Earth right after its accomplishment of creating life. The knowledge and technology to create life could be lost forever. There may even be a day where humanity starts to rebuild, but has to start over, and people will look at the life forms that survived and wonder if it was created or did it just evolve... They wouldn't consider 'both' to be correct.

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Raggedyman

How about you state what the "many problems" are in MES?

Oh that's right, you can't. You just want emperical evidence so you can ignore it.

Worst. Troll. Ever.

Well considering I am/was asking a question and you have butted in demanding I answer your question after I established my position
Then use ad honimems to justify your arrogance, I will offer you

originally posted by: TerryDon79

Worst. Troll. Ever.

Then give myself *********** 10 stars

Yay me

You are like gnosisfaith coombs, just not worth the drama


how about you state categorically that adaptations are evolution.

Then show me empirical evidence that evolution is true science, not that things can adapt
Adaptation is not evolution where science is concerned, fail

a reply to: Raggedyman

Already shown you that emperical evidence you keep crying about. You know? The things you say aren't, but won't say why? Yeah, that stuff.

I'm done wasting my time on someone who cries for emperical evidence, when they CLEARLY don't know what it means.

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Raggedyman

Already shown you that emperical evidence you keep crying about. You know? The things you say aren't, but won't say why? Yeah, that stuff.

I'm done wasting my time on someone who cries for emperical evidence, when they CLEARLY don't know what it means.

Really
You want me to believe
MMSA adapting to MRSA is empirical evidence
MMSA adapting to MRSA is empirical evidence that MMSA can adapt to MRSA, nothing else
Unless you know something I dont

Care to explain how that proves mankind evolved from space dirt and space water, please

originally posted by: TerryDon79

I'm done

Clearly, you are done

Here's a link for people (obviously not raggedyman) who want to know what emperical evidence actually means.

Empirical evidence is information acquired by observation or experimentation. This data is recorded and analyzed by scientists and is a central process as part of the scientific method.

originally posted by: Padawan Raggedyman

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Padawan Raggedyman

How about you state what the "many problems" are in MES?

Oh that's right, you can't. You just want emperical evidence so you can ignore it.

Worst. Troll. Ever.

Well considering I am/was asking a question and you have butted in demanding I answer your question after I established my position
Then use ad honimems to justify your arrogance, I will offer you

originally posted by: TerryDon79

Worst. Troll. Ever.

Then give myself *********** 10 stars

Yay me

You are like gnosisfaith coombs, just not worth the drama


how about you state categorically that adaptations are evolution.

Then show me empirical evidence that evolution is true science, not that things can adapt
Adaptation is not evolution where science is concerned, fail

Padawan Raggedyman,

The part in bold that you wrote to me was a response to goodman TerryDon79.

Padawan, you need to pay more attention.

Also ad hominem attacks is not something you understand. If someone responds with evidence then throws in a personal attack is not ad hominem!

Were you home schooled Padawan?

Master Coomba

Here's a link for people (obviously not raggedyman) who want to know what emperical evidence actually means.

Empirical evidence is information acquired by observation or experimentation. This data is recorded and analyzed by scientists and is a central process as part of the scientific method.

Empirical evidence is information acquired by observation.
Meaning what we can see
Like
MMSA adapting to MRSA is empirical evidence that MMSA can adapt to MRSA

We havnt seen Space dirt and space water evolve into people so its not "information acquired by observation"

This data is recorded.

If we havnt seen it it cant be recorded

and analyzed.

If we havnt seen it happen it cant be analyzed

by scientists.

By anyone who hasnt seen it or analyzed it, lets say scientists to make it sound more official though. Give your fairy floss a littl weight

and is a central process as part of the scientific method.

That isnt observed or analyzed so is not central at all, it isnt a scientific method, its faith and religion. Its assumption


So TD just proved how ignorant he is with his own quote and lost all credibility
Congrats TD, I didnt need to do anything, just watched you unravel your own argument

a reply to: Raggedyman

You forgot the last part of the sentence
..."or experimentation."

I didn't expect you to get it right though.

originally posted by: gnosisfaithcoomba98

originally posted by: Padawan Raggedyman

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Padawan Raggedyman

How about you state what the "many problems" are in MES?

Oh that's right, you can't. You just want emperical evidence so you can ignore it.

Worst. Troll. Ever.

Well considering I am/was asking a question and you have butted in demanding I answer your question after I established my position
Then use ad honimems to justify your arrogance, I will offer you

originally posted by: TerryDon79

Worst. Troll. Ever.

Then give myself *********** 10 stars

Yay me

You are like gnosisfaith coombs, just not worth the drama


how about you state categorically that adaptations are evolution.

Then show me empirical evidence that evolution is true science, not that things can adapt
Adaptation is not evolution where science is concerned, fail

Padawan Raggedyman,

The part in bold that you wrote to me was a response to goodman TerryDon79.

Padawan, you need to pay more attention.

Also ad hominem attacks is not something you understand. If someone responds with evidence then throws in a personal attack is not ad hominem!

Were you home schooled Padawan?

Master Coomba

Just throwing out the bait

a reply to: Raggedyman

So...

You're looking for bacteria to morph into a human... basically?

a reply to: Akragon

Or cats turn into birds.

You know? The normal creationist argument.

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Raggedyman

You forgot the last part of the sentence
..."or experimentation."

I didn't expect you to get it right though.

No TD
I asked for empirical evidence, not assumption, you just proved it is assumption, nothing else

Empirical evidence, not assumption

Your evidence again, only proves MMSA adapting to MRSA is empirical evidence that MMSA can adapt to MRSA, nothing else

If you cant see that then....

a reply to: Raggedyman

I just showed you what emperical evidence means and you're now not happy with what it means?!

I don't even know how to reply to that level of stupidity lol.

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Akragon

Or cats turn into birds.

You know? The normal creationist argument.

Or as evolutionists say
Space dirt and space water turns into Mum and Dad

I can use your own foolish argument
In fact it would be easier to believe cats turn into birds than Space dirt and space water turns into Mum and Dad
but I guess you cant see that

a reply to: Raggedyman

Show me, in a peer reviewed paper, where it says that we "evolved from space dirt and water".

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: Raggedyman

So...

You're looking for bacteria to morph into a human... basically?

I asked for empirical evidence
Have you missed something

Anything outside of that is speculation or assumption, hence, its not science, its faith, belief, religion.

Its not hard to understand

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Raggedyman

Show me, in a peer reviewed paper, where it says that we "evolved from space dirt and water".

He doesn't consider time in that equation

a reply to: Raggedyman

Yet you don't even understand what emperical evidence means lol.

"I want emperical evidence!"
-gets shown emperical evidence
"That's assumption blah blah blah!"
-gets shown the meaning of emperical evidence
-stamps feet because he's wrong
-"Show me emperical evidence!"

You're just too funny!