Wikileaks dump is ON, scheduled 04 OCT 2016 9:00 GMT will "devastate" Clinton, "the end" of them

originally posted by: Southern Guardian
a reply to: daaskapital

Granted Daask, Assange may have had words put in his mouth. That being said it's no secret that Assange has not been a fan of Hillary and his initial information dumps were aimed at toppling her campaign. This was his clear intention.

Assange disagrees with the assertion that he intends to topple her campaign, although i could understand why Assange doesn't like or agree with Clinton. We are talking about a woman who allegedly suggested assassinating him, not to mention the history between the two. They were essentially enemies during the height of WikiLeaks.

That said, i think it is too simple to paint this as Assange wanting to destroy her. He certainly doesn't like her, but he can only release what he is given. Assange has to work with what he's got. To that extent, WikiLeaks have encouraged leaks about the Republican party. In the end, any self-respecting media outlet would have published those DNC emails. Indeed, some were publishing them via Guccifer 2.0, before WikiLeaks' publications.

After those initial releases on the DNC and Bernie there was plenty of talk floating around about further information that would actually topple her campaign once and for all. Wikileaks by the least were well aware of an expectation they held further damning information. Did Wikileaks bother to 'correct the record'? Were they forthcoming about if they had anything further on Hillary? Did they have a shred of decency to their followers? From the looks of it they've been carefully riding on the hype and belief by thousands that they were in a good position to bring Hillary down. They had all the attention. They took full advantage of this knowing full well that these expectations were based on false reporting.

I think we are talking too soon. Assange has stated that WikiLeaks will publish material over the next 10 weeks. That said, i agree that they could have exercised better public relations.

WikiLeaks, as a policy, doesn't publicly comment on material prior to their publication, so perhaps this was preventing them from confirming or denying specific material. Assange has always said it was 'serious' and 'interesting' though. Hardly evoking words.

It's evident Assange has taken maximum advantage of people out there. While I may not politically agree with many who were pushing the hype, I certainly do not agree on these people being taken advantage of like this. I mean the man promoted his book during this scheduled appearance... he was taking full advantage, he knew full well what he was doing.

He just threw any credibility he had left out the window. This was a terrible move on his part.

It was a tenth anniversary event. Such occasions usually focus on the history and achievements of an organisation and their members. Assange promoting his books, all of which concern his work as WikiLeaks' editor-in-chief, is not exactly out of place in an anniversary press conference. He was there to engage the media and promote his work, after all.

I understand that WikiLeaks had ample opportunity to correct the record, and it is something they should have done. However they did make it clear that the event was to celebrate an anniversary, and even put out a presser with the schedule and topics, none of which promoted new material. It's not their fault that websites like Prison Planet were pushing lies and misinformation.

In the end, Assange has publicly laid out plans for WikiLeaks' publications in the near future. People don't have to wait long.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Alex Jones is an idiot who pushed the lies contributing to the massive expectations of WikiLeaks' event. He has no right to complain.

Besides, Assange has provided us a loose schedule of impending leaks, so it's not like he told us all to get lost.

a reply to: FlyingFox

Wow! Alex Jones AND J Assange after Clinton. Gee, whatever will she do, with perhaps the internet's most notorious full-blown wing-nut in Jones, and a fugitive rapist who's been hiding in an embassy for years on her trail? Man, I guess it's just a matter of time now. Although Assange had promised to release devastating information about Clinton already, and nothing's happened yet.... For some reason, I'm thinking no one other than the Alex Jones crew, (very sensible people, by the way), and the good-news starved Trump dead-enders believe anything's really coming at all. Good luck though. You guys certainly need something to distract the country from your boys insanity. And now he too has been accused of raping an under age girl. Perhaps Trump and Assange attended the same party?

originally posted by: kruphix
Did you not hear him dodge a question about if the info is also about Republicans?

I wasn't gonna waste my time, and didn't.

However, if he is a "Full Disclosure" person he should not be taking sides.

It was stated somewhere - - people are sending him info. Is he getting info on Trump too? I would assume.

If he is selective to only one side - - to me that lacks credibility.

originally posted by: daaskapital
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Alex Jones is an idiot who pushed the lies contributing to the massive expectations of WikiLeaks' event. He has no right to complain.

Besides, Assange has provided us a loose schedule of impending leaks, so it's not like he told us all to get lost.

Come off it. Assange had the worlds ears and eyes today. He knew exactly what people were tuning in for, but let the event run for 45 minutes of drivel before speaking and telling everyone he was not releasing anything. He is playing games and I can only assume he is doing it to try and send a signal he wants to cut a deal.

Can't wait for Trumps taxes to be leaked.

originally posted by: WilburnRoach
Can't wait for Trumps taxes to be leaked.

I expect that to happen.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: daaskapital
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Alex Jones is an idiot who pushed the lies contributing to the massive expectations of WikiLeaks' event. He has no right to complain.

Besides, Assange has provided us a loose schedule of impending leaks, so it's not like he told us all to get lost.

Come off it. Assange had the worlds ears and eyes today. He knew exactly what people were tuning in for, but let the event run for 45 minutes of drivel before speaking and telling everyone he was not releasing anything. He is playing games and I can only assume he is doing it to try and send a signal he wants to cut a deal.

Yes, for a tenth anniversary event. WikiLeaks never said they were publishing material today. Alex Jones did though, and so did many other outlets.

It is not Assange's fault that all of you got in over your heads and believed lies peddled by fringe publications. Granted, WikiLeaks could have corrected the record, but people should have done their research. I knew exactly what we were getting going into the event, because i done my research. You should have done yours.

When I heard Assange had info supposedly to take down Hillary I thought sure Sausage I bet nothing happens. Looks like nothing is happening and Sausage is full of BS...
I bet Assange has very little if anything that could have any impact and Hillary will be president.

He's a showman caught up in his own self importance. Why bother saying I'm going to release this and that. Why not just do it and let it speak for itself. He's probably half nuts living in that embassy for so long what a jackass.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: daaskapital
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Alex Jones is an idiot who pushed the lies contributing to the massive expectations of WikiLeaks' event. He has no right to complain.

Besides, Assange has provided us a loose schedule of impending leaks, so it's not like he told us all to get lost.

Come off it. Assange had the worlds ears and eyes today. He knew exactly what people were tuning in for, but let the event run for 45 minutes of drivel before speaking and telling everyone he was not releasing anything. He is playing games and I can only assume he is doing it to try and send a signal he wants to cut a deal.

He knew that conspiracy theorists and alt-right nutcases were watching.

He didn't bother to correct them because no one takes them seriously. It's like trying to correct the crackhead yelling conspiracy theories on the street corner. There's no good outcome for even trying. At best, you just get seen talking to a crackhead and lose face.

If folks just paid attention to what Assange and Wikileaks said and published instead of grabbing hold of every little piece of propaganda from the likes of alex jones (tool) who just grabs the coat tails of what is in the news for his own personal benefit, there would be much less confusion and vitriol over the one thing that the world has going for it in hopes of exposing once and for all the nature of our lord and masters.

I think folks in general have a problem with comprehension and discernment when they approach a subject with bias, or misguided expectations.

originally posted by: daaskapital


I understand that WikiLeaks had ample opportunity to correct the record, and it is something they should have done.

They did. As you said, they even released a schedule detailing everything they were going to talk about. No leaks were on that schedule.

You just can't reason with crazy though. Conspiracy theorists and alt-right loonies were going to be foaming at the mouth no matter what Assange did. It really is like trying to reason with the crackhead yelling stuff on the street corner.

a reply to: daaskapital

Granted, WikiLeaks could have corrected the record

That's exactly what he should have done. If he wanted to hang on to his integrity. He even stated he was 'watching the internet' and realized everyone was having high expectations. It was with that I knew immediately this was going to be a non-event. And why wouldn't we have high expectations? For months we've been listening to the nuances surrounding a "treasure trove" of damning emails coming from him. He painted the scene and the alt-right fringe sites put in the props. He let the rumors perpetuate then he coins 'October Surprise'. If he was watching the internet and noticed people misquoting him, he should have put a stop to it right away with a simple tweat.

Alex Jones is Trumps guy, not exactly the best and brightest among us.
You guys all fell for it! This was your best chance to see a Trump presidency, now you have to depend on Trump acting right and preparing for the next debate.

Wow

originally posted by: RedDragon
He didn't bother to correct them because no one takes them seriously. It's like trying to correct the crackhead yelling conspiracy theories on the street corner. There's no good outcome for even trying. At best, you just get seen talking to a crackhead and lose face.

originally posted by: RedDragon
You just can't reason with crazy though. Conspiracy theorists and alt-right loonies were going to be foaming at the mouth no matter what Assange did. It really is like trying to reason with the crackhead yelling stuff on the street corner.

Geez, could you repeat that again?

That straw man could use a little more crack.

I predicted twice on ATS that Assange wouldn’t release a dam thing about Hillary because they have Bradley Manning at their mercy.


Assange loves the guy so much he offered to turn himself in if they’d let him go.


He tried to commit suicide in a federal prison and they then put him in solitary confinement( a ridiculous thing to do but a message to Assange) and ever since Assange has not said a peep about Hillary Clinton

Read between the headlines people and use your imagination and please DONT BELIEVE A WORD OUT OF ALEX JONES' BIG MOUTH

originally posted by: RedDragon

originally posted by: daaskapital


I understand that WikiLeaks had ample opportunity to correct the record, and it is something they should have done.

They did. As you said, they even released a schedule detailing everything they were going to talk about. No leaks were on that schedule.

You just can't reason with crazy though. Conspiracy theorists and alt-right loonies were going to be foaming at the mouth no matter what Assange did. It really is like trying to reason with the crackhead yelling stuff on the street corner.

Yes, you're right. I just mean they could have done a little bit more to temper expectations. Still, some people don't listen, unfortunately.

I went into this event knowing exactly what it was about. I'm sure you did too. It's a shame that others couldn't take 5 minutes out of their day to do some basic research...

I thought Assange's lack of an announcement was a brilliant stroke by him as it underlined a message Wikileaks has tried to get out that they are not part of Trump's campaign. By refusing to play along Assange draws a line between himself and Roger Stone (and Alex Jones).

I do expect Assange to release leaked information concerning the US government and the USA's political establishment, but we should all stop listening to people putting words in Assange's mouth and simply listen to the man and to the information put forward by WikiLeaks website and its Twitter feed.

well shafted again.