HSV-2 Swift hit by antiship missile, sunk

a reply to: RarePeePee

Phalanx has always been more of a mommy defense (look mom, we're protected from missiles) than anything. The ranges it engages at are so short that even if the warhead is detonated, the debris from the missile is going to more than likely hit the ship still. And it's always had a hard time with high speed missiles.

a reply to: Zaphod58

C802 is a Chinese version of the Harpoon missile. It has identical flight characteristics and warhead.. the second time it has ad this missile shot at the ship. The first was off the coast of Beirut in 2006. I guess the bastards finally got her. She was a great ship I had the pleasure of operating for 5 years.

It doesn't make any difference, we have the weakest president in history so the United States is on the side lines while the world grows more and more dangerous.

This is a prime demonstraion why ships are obsolete in the arena of modern sea skimming missiles. And this was an older variant produced last century...

Due to the Yingji-82 missile's small radar reflectivity, low attack flight path (only five to seven meters above the sea surface) and strong anti-jamming capability of its guidance system, target ships have a very small chance of intercepting the missile.[citation needed] The single shot hit probability of the Yingji-82 is unknown, though one unreferenced source claims it to be as high as 98%.[1] The Yingji-82 can be launched from airplanes, surface ships, submarines and land-based vehicles.

Iran reportedly bought about 60 land-launched variant YJ-82 missiles following the 1991 Persian Gulf War.[1]

News reports indicate that this was the missile used[19] on July 14, 2006, in the 2006 Lebanon War when Hezbollah fired two at Israeli warships.[20][21] One missile hit the corvette INS Hanit, causing significant damage and four fatalities.[22] Iran, the reported supplier of the missile to Hezbollah, refused to formally confirm or deny the claim. The Hanit suffered severe damage, but stayed afloat, got itself out of the line of fire, and made the rest of the journey back to Ashdod for repairs on its own.[23]

The Israeli ship possessed sophisticated multi-layered missile defense capability: a Phalanx CIWS gun, Barak 1 anti-missile missiles, Chaff and ECM. These should have been able to prevent an anti-ship missile attack such as the YJ-82...

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originally posted by: RedMenace16
a reply to: seagull
Yemeni forces work together with the Emirates, it's the Yemeni Houthis, funded by Iran and North Korea that did the attack.

By the Houthis, you mean the original government! Funny how they fight for their countries but we don't for ours but on the internet.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: RarePeePee

Phalanx has always been more of a mommy defense (look mom, we're protected from missiles) than anything. The ranges it engages at are so short that even if the warhead is detonated, the debris from the missile is going to more than likely hit the ship still. And it's always had a hard time with high speed missiles.

I think the effectiveness of all kinds of missile defenses is greatly exaggerated. The Patriot system used during the First Gulf War probably had a success rate under 10% (notwithstanding US government claims of over 90%).

You may have read about plans for anti-missile lasers mounted on planes. Realistically, the laser isn't going to have an effective range of more than a few miles, and the window to shoot down something as fast as a missile will be very small. So, actually shooting down a missile would be mainly a matter being lucky enough to have it fly right past the plane. And if it ever does work, the obvious countermeasure will be to give the missiles a reflective coating. Even it buys the missile just a few more seconds, that would be good enough to ensure that most of them slip past the laser planes.

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Most laser countermeasures are designed for infrared missiles. They won't actually shoot them down, but will blind the seeker so it either self detonates, or goes in a straight line and misses. They're most effective against MANPADS right now.

Missile defense is a lot harder than people think. Technically the government was right about the Patriot. It hit something like 90% of the missiles it was fired at, but it left the warhead intact in almost all of them, and both the warhead and debris ended up causing significant damage. Only something like 8% destroyed the warhead, or the missile far enough out to prevent damage from falling debris.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Let me explain how the UAE works. Unless the royal family in whatever quarter wants people to know, we won't...under threat of death. Their court system is hella # up. Arrested and dead in 3 days.

a reply to: Brainiac

POTUS says yes or no. JCS is capable. No worries there.
You mean we're on the sidelines for ONCE? I'll take it!

They have been shooting at ships since the start of this. They claim to sink them all the time. Looks like they managed to hit something, granted its a civilian ship. With pressure on Sanaa the Houthi capital growing they have been getting more desperate. Even arming women and children for the assault on the city they know is coming.

The U.S. is now sending navy ships to the area.
www.foxnews.com...

"Iran-backed Houthi rebels in Yemen claimed responsibility for the attack. There were no reported injuries to the Emerati crew. Al Jazeera reported on video of the attack.

Iran supplied the Houthis with the “shoulder-fired rockets” that nearly destroyed the UAE ship, according to two U.S. officials. It was not immediately clear what type of rocket the rebels may have fired. The ship was formerly contracted to the U.S., two defense officials confirmed, and at one time an American company owned the vessel.

Military officials sent the Navy warships to the southern end of the Bab al-Mandab Strait, also known as the Mandab Strait, which connects the Red Sea to the Gulf of Aden. Two U.S. Navy guided-missile destroyers, USS Mason and USS Nitze, armed with Tomahawk cruise missiles, Harpoon anti-ship missiles and an assortment of deck-mounted high-caliber machine guns, joined USS Ponce, a floating staging ship which includes a compliment of special operations forces, according to one official."~Foxnews

a reply to: Gyo01

Original government? Wtf are you talking about?

The Houthi terrorists have no legitimacy in Yemen and they never had.

You been watching PreesTV haven't you?

So this is really bad right? I mean we didn't even realize we named a ship after herpes? I'm sure we are going to spread our HSV-1 and HSV-2 all around the world.

But seriously. Not good.

a reply to: Bigburgh

The Ponce is carrying the laser the Navy has been testing.

apparent picture of ship after attack:

another link with a picture.


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