Clinton/Trump: Can it get any lower?

I almost posted the two stories linked directly below, but I thought they were crossing some imaginary line of vulgarity and stupidity.

A 'sex tape' of his own! Trump is seen popping champagne in softcore porn video featuring twin Playboy models - just hours after he slammed beauty queen Alicia Machado for her 'disgusting' x-rated tape

Trump appeared in Playboy video in 2000 popping a bottle of champagne

He remains fulled clothed, but video includes naked women posing in sexual positions, touching themselves, and caressing each other

Video includes twin sisters Darlene and Carol Bernaola, who grew up in Peru before moving to Miami and spoke about Latin representation
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That's newsworthy under the circumstances. I just couldn't bring myself to click the post button.

Donald Trump says he'll make President Bill Clinton's infidelity a campaign issue

Tensions remain high on the presidential campaign trail over Donald Trump’s tirade against the 1996 Miss Universe.

Before dawn on Friday, Trump posted unfounded smears against Alicia Machado.

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Trump, for his part, told the New York Times that this may spark him to get “nasty.”

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“Who gets up at 3 o’clock in the morning to engage in a Twitter attack against a former Miss Universe?” Hillary Clinton said at a campaign rally.

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“I have said it before, and I’ll say it again: A man who can be provoked by a tweet should not be anywhere near the nuclear codes,” Clinton said.
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That kind of talk literally reminds me of what it was like in primary school. We may be on the verge of WW3, and the candidates for POTUS sound like gossiping schoolchildren.

It's not just the candidates who are reaching new lows.

Madonna goes topless in solidarity with Katy Perry's naked 'Rock the Vote' video

Using one's nudity as a publicity stunt seems a tad lowbrow to me. In the case of Madonna, it's a little disgusting.

I didn't think it could after the last few elections, boy how wrong I was.

In one corner there is this bigoted, ugly, lying, crooked 70 year old sexist bullly with a pre teen mindset while in the other corner you have a lying,crooked 69 year old hag who can barely stand on two feet.
What did you expect ? This is by lengths the worse US presidential race in history.
It's like driving past a car crash accident, you don't want to look but you catch yourself peeping anyway.

a reply to: Profusion

I watched the video and there is absolutely nothing to see. It's not a Trump "sex tape"The headline and description is completely misleading. It's a 10 sec clip of him outside in NYC with everyone around him in what looks like some kind of marketing event and he pops a champagne bottle. He is not with any naked women. It's a Playboy video that he had no other involvement in except that. Just more desperation and the MSM will push lies and obfuscate the truth.

About this Miss America. There is no evidence he even called her "Miss Piggy or Miss Housekeeping" by the way except her word and she is hardly even the personification of good character. She was underl contractual obligation to hold a certain weight and she went over it. He held her accountable and helped her lose the weight back instead of firing her, which he contractually could have done.

It's the misogyny card. It was a hit piece that has been in the works since the summer and has held on to this story until after the first debate. The woman has been coached and prepped for this. Notice how she is already on every media outlet the next day? This was orchestrated from the start and that's why the debate was a farce.

a reply to: Profusion

I find the whole debacle is getting out of hand, i've not seen a thread talking about the Presidential Campain where some Clintonite or Trumper doesn't resort to name calling.

For those of us outside the US it's actually quite painful to watch and I'm fairly sure there are many agree with me in saying that we don't want either of these gargantuan characters in the White House. Here in the UK, all the papers are backing Clinton and the stories we get about Trump paint him as a bigger buffoon than Boris Johnson (and that's a feat and a half)...

a reply to: Profusion

After Donald's performance in the debate and his resulting Twitter Tantrum slamming Machado, I actually looked for something like this, because I seemed to remember something about a connection to Playboy bunnies in his past. I couldn't find anything, so I let it go. But I'm so glad it has come out and is in the news now... His hypocrisy is all the more clear...

The movie is Playboy Video Centerfold: Playmate 2000 Bernaola Twins

Cast:
Donald Trump ... Himself

And now, he's going to talk about Bill's infidelity? How about his OWN???

originally posted by: Profusion
Clinton/Trump: Can it get any lower?

Yes, actually it can and probably will.

No matter who wins they will come out of this looking like a heinous asshat that further eroded the people's trust in government.

a reply to: djz3ro

All of this frivolous non substantive crap is currently coming straight from Hilary's campaign and not Trump's. This Miss Piggy waste of time, the whole birther crap, even an actual debate question where it doesn't even fall under any debate category. Why? Because he was told to ask that. Hillary has absolutely no message except to destroy the character of Trump and his supporters. I see straight through the MSM lies and tactics and I think many other Americans do as well.

a reply to: Profusion

It will get uglier, Trump has said so. Trump will continue to attack American individuals and families then when he loses its all been rigged.

originally posted by: mkultra11
a reply to: djz3ro

All of this frivolous non substantive crap is currently coming straight from Hilary's campaign and not Trump's. This Miss Piggy waste of time, the whole birther crap, even an actual debate question where it doesn't even fall under any debate category. Why? Because he was told to ask that. Hillary has absolutely no message except to destroy the character of Trump and his supporters. I see straight through the MSM lies and tactics and I think many other Americans do as well.

Right!
Its well known Hillary was up all night twitter bashing people and recommending porn.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: Profusion

After Donald's performance in the debate and his resulting Twitter Tantrum slamming Machado, I actually looked for something like this, because I seemed to remember something about a connection to Playboy bunnies in his past. I couldn't find anything, so I let it go. But I'm so glad it has come out and is in the news now... His hypocrisy is all the more clear...

The movie is Playboy Video Centerfold: Playmate 2000 Bernaola Twins

Cast:
Donald Trump ... Himself

And now, he's going to talk about Bill's infidelity? How about his OWN???

He was an actual young billionaire and no one is going to be surprised about him being around playboy bunnies. It will only reinforce people's thought who are already against him and not sway his voters to not vote for him.

Bill Clinton had more than "infidelity" if anyone hasn't been living under a rock. He's been accused of rape and sexually assault by various women. He was impeached because he lied about having sexual encounters in the oval office. Hillary is seen as an enabler who attacked and intimidated women who very well may have been raped by her husband. She chose to stay with him in what people see as nothing more than political ambition and nothing else. I don't think anyone is really outraged about Bill "cheating" on Hillary, people cheat, people get divorced. The American people get that.

originally posted by: WilburnRoach

originally posted by: mkultra11
a reply to: djz3ro

All of this frivolous non substantive crap is currently coming straight from Hilary's campaign and not Trump's. This Miss Piggy waste of time, the whole birther crap, even an actual debate question where it doesn't even fall under any debate category. Why? Because he was told to ask that. Hillary has absolutely no message except to destroy the character of Trump and his supporters. I see straight through the MSM lies and tactics and I think many other Americans do as well.

Right!
Its well known Hillary was up all night twitter bashing people and recommending porn.

Well, you can thank Hillary for making this woman her poster child of her campaign a month before the election.

originally posted by: mkultra11

originally posted by: WilburnRoach

originally posted by: mkultra11
a reply to: djz3ro

All of this frivolous non substantive crap is currently coming straight from Hilary's campaign and not Trump's. This Miss Piggy waste of time, the whole birther crap, even an actual debate question where it doesn't even fall under any debate category. Why? Because he was told to ask that. Hillary has absolutely no message except to destroy the character of Trump and his supporters. I see straight through the MSM lies and tactics and I think many other Americans do as well.

Right!
Its well known Hillary was up all night twitter bashing people and recommending porn.

Well, you can thank Hillary for making this woman her poster child of her campaign a month before the election.

I thank Trump, for being who he is.

originally posted by: mkultra11
a reply to: Profusion

I watched the video and there is absolutely nothing to see. It's not a Trump "sex tape"The headline and description is completely misleading. It's a 10 sec clip of him outside in NYC with everyone around him in what looks like some kind of marketing event and he pops a champagne bottle. He is not with any naked women. It's a Playboy video that he had no other involvement in except that. Just more desperation and the MSM will push lies and obfuscate the truth.

About this Miss America. There is no evidence he even called her "Miss Piggy or Miss Housekeeping" by the way except her word and she is hardly even the personification of good character. She was underl contractual obligation to hold a certain weight and she went over it. He held her accountable and helped her lose the weight back instead of firing her, which he contractually could have done.

It's the misogyny card. It was a hit piece that has been in the works since the summer and has held on to this story until after the first debate. The woman has been coached and prepped for this. Notice how she is already on every media outlet the next day? This was orchestrated from the start and that's why the debate was a farce.

None of that matters.

It's about Trump the "reactionary".

It's about his response behavior.

originally posted by: mkultra11
He was an actual young billionaire and no one is going to be surprised about him being around playboy bunnies.

Yeah, I agree. I don't have ANY problem at all with porn or either of them (Trump or Machado) and their association with Playboy or nakedness. The problem is he REAMED her for a "sex tape" and her "past", calling her "disgusting" because of it (even though there was no sex tape). So, is HE "disgusting" because of HIS sex tape???

Bill Clinton had more than "infidelity" if anyone hasn't been living under a rock. He's been accused of rape and sexually assault by various women.

So has Trump! In fact, there's a current lawsuit against him for child rape! Source

If he brings up Bill's sexcapades, will his be fair game? Will Melania's naked pictures be fair game??? Do we want a first lady who was involved in porn? He better think about that.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

And now, he's going to talk about Bill's infidelity? How about his OWN???

Yes, both men had sex outside of marriage. (which is really no one else's business)

But, which one is still married to the same woman? The only wife he's ever had.

Bill & Hill's marriage seems stronger then ever.

originally posted by: mkultra11
a reply to: djz3ro

All of this frivolous non substantive crap is currently coming straight from Hilary's campaign and not Trump's. This Miss Piggy waste of time, the whole birther crap, even an actual debate question where it doesn't even fall under any debate category. Why? Because he was told to ask that. Hillary has absolutely no message except to destroy the character of Trump and his supporters. I see straight through the MSM lies and tactics and I think many other Americans do as well.

OMG

Blame Hillary for Trump's thin-skinned reactionary behavior.

If Hillary behaved like Trump - - - you'd be all over that.

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Did you just say this woman didn't have a sex tape and Trump has one? Trump obviously doesn't have a sex tape and that's the obfuscation I'm talking about. This woman was on TV having sex with someone while she was engaged to a MLB player nonetheless. It really doesn't bother me personally.

The accusations never bothered any Clinton supporters, so let's see if it bothers Trump supporters.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: mkultra11
a reply to: djz3ro

All of this frivolous non substantive crap is currently coming straight from Hilary's campaign and not Trump's. This Miss Piggy waste of time, the whole birther crap, even an actual debate question where it doesn't even fall under any debate category. Why? Because he was told to ask that. Hillary has absolutely no message except to destroy the character of Trump and his supporters. I see straight through the MSM lies and tactics and I think many other Americans do as well.

OMG

Blame Hillary for Trump's thin-skinned reactionary behavior.

If Hillary behaved like Trump - - - you'd be all over that.

I was pointing out that these topics were brought up by Hillary. Trump takes the bait and does stupid tweets. No one cares except people looking to build on the story. Trump should just ignore it and move on. Hillary and the MSM are up to dirty political tricks.

If Hillary behaved like Trump? How about if Hillary behaved like Hillary?

originally posted by: mkultra11

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: mkultra11
a reply to: djz3ro

All of this frivolous non substantive crap is currently coming straight from Hilary's campaign and not Trump's. This Miss Piggy waste of time, the whole birther crap, even an actual debate question where it doesn't even fall under any debate category. Why? Because he was told to ask that. Hillary has absolutely no message except to destroy the character of Trump and his supporters. I see straight through the MSM lies and tactics and I think many other Americans do as well.

OMG

Blame Hillary for Trump's thin-skinned reactionary behavior.

If Hillary behaved like Trump - - - you'd be all over that.

I was pointing out that these topics were brought up by Hillary. Trump takes the bait and does stupid tweets. No one cares except people looking to build on the story. Trump should just ignore it and move on. Hillary and the MSM are up to dirty political tricks.

If Hillary behaved like Trump? How about if Hillary behaved like Hillary?

Does not matter that Hillary brought them up.

That happens on both sides. Are you seriously implying only Hillary does this?

What matters is how each candidate handles the mudslinging.

Trump is a mess. He can't handle any negativity thrown at him.

Clinton remains stoic and dignified.