Donald Trump.. I am an outsider fighting for you.

originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: intrepid

Awesome movie but without cheating I can't think of it other then Val Kilmer.

Real Genius. Great movie.

a reply to: seagull

He's, at the least, a closet bigot

Okay, I get what you meant, but... closet?

Closet bigot... he's hardly closeted... I'd refer to him as a proud, flaming bigot.

Every other utterance from his rancid mouth screams elitism, fascism and bigotry.

But yeah, Clinton is only slightly better on the whole "good person/good ideas" scale... we should draft politicians who want nothing to do with lording it over folks.. .somehow.

a reply to: imsoconfused

In other words, you believe anything that a politician you like tells you? Trump's donated to different politicians from different political parties for decades. How does that make him an outsider?

originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: imsoconfused

In other words, you believe anything that a politician you like tells you? Trump's donated to different politicians from different political parties for decades. How does that make him an outsider?

What? My mom, my dad, my grandma, my grandpa, my wifes mom, my wifes dad, and just about every political baby boomer I know has donated money to politicians and campaigns.

We still get a letter for my dead grandma from the DNC every year asking for money.

So are they all insiders?

a reply to: imsoconfused

I am not sure that you can compare the two. I don't think $20 from grandma holds as much weight as a check for hundreds of thousands of dollars from a billionaire that can afford to donate even more. Usually those types of large donations also come with special dinners or parties and who knows what happens there.

originally posted by: primespickle
a reply to: imsoconfused

I am not sure that you can compare the two. I don't think $20 from grandma holds as much weight as a check for hundreds of thousands of dollars from a billionaire that can afford to donate even more. Usually those types of large donations also come with special dinners or parties and who knows what happens there.

Grandma was invited to the white house with Bill because of her donations.

I think it was alot more than 20$

originally posted by: primespickle
a reply to: imsoconfused

I am not sure that you can compare the two. I don't think $20 from grandma holds as much weight as a check for hundreds of thousands of dollars from a billionaire that can afford to donate even more. Usually those types of large donations also come with special dinners or parties and who knows what happens there.

Are you saying Hillary can easily be bought off for a couple hundred k?

originally posted by: imsoconfused

originally posted by: primespickle
a reply to: imsoconfused

I am not sure that you can compare the two. I don't think $20 from grandma holds as much weight as a check for hundreds of thousands of dollars from a billionaire that can afford to donate even more. Usually those types of large donations also come with special dinners or parties and who knows what happens there.

Grandma was invited to the white house with Bill because of her donations.

I think it was alot more than 20$

Well it was Bill. Maybe she had nice legs.

No disrespect to your GM. It's just so easy dinging Bill. Hillary wins and that humor will be back on late night. It's a banquet.

a reply to: imsoconfused

I have a love/hate relationship with Trump and after this quote I love him again.

How can you not?

The real question is.

Why do you believe him?

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: imsoconfused

I have a love/hate relationship with Trump and after this quote I love him again.

How can you not?

The real question is.

Why do you believe him?

Still not sure if I do. But I know I dont believe her or them or they lol.

a reply to: imsoconfused

I sure don't.

There may be an example of a crooked businessman becoming an honest politician in the history of the world, but if there isn't I am absolutely certain Trump will not be the first.

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: imsoconfused

originally posted by: primespickle
a reply to: imsoconfused

I am not sure that you can compare the two. I don't think $20 from grandma holds as much weight as a check for hundreds of thousands of dollars from a billionaire that can afford to donate even more. Usually those types of large donations also come with special dinners or parties and who knows what happens there.

Grandma was invited to the white house with Bill because of her donations.

I think it was alot more than 20$

Well it was Bill. Maybe she had nice legs.

No disrespect to your GM. It's just so easy dinging Bill. Hillary wins and that humor will be back on late night. It's a banquet.

LOl She was pretty old then, but I wouldn't put it past Bill.

She sure loved Bill though. She would probably be mad at me for hating Hillary.

a reply to: imsoconfused

That, at least, seems an honest enough statement.

I've reached my conclusion, you have not yet. Fair 'nough.

a reply to: imsoconfused


Donald Trump is very smart and intuitive. Most of his supporters instinctively know that he's an "outsider". But he is now being told that the Independents and Undecided (potential) voters are starting to seriously make up their minds. Many of them never thought of Donald Trump as an "outsider", in the political train of thought. They just see him as a wealthy personality who wants to shake things up in Washington.

From the rally I watched online yesterday, Donald Trump seems to be going back to the beginning of his campaign. He's reminding his followers AND educating undecided voters of why he's so much better than the stagnated Tax and Spend dinosaurs, like Hillary and all who think like her.

Nov. 8th is going to be crushing for a lot of people. Enjoy the optimism now folks.

originally posted by: imsoconfused

originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: imsoconfused

In other words, you believe anything that a politician you like tells you? Trump's donated to different politicians from different political parties for decades. How does that make him an outsider?

What? My mom, my dad, my grandma, my grandpa, my wifes mom, my wifes dad, and just about every political baby boomer I know has donated money to politicians and campaigns.

We still get a letter for my dead grandma from the DNC every year asking for money.

So are they all insiders?

That depends. Are their situations similar to what Trump described (HERE), in a Wall Street Journal interview?:

“As a businessman and a very substantial donor to very important people, when you give, they do whatever the hell you want them to do,” Mr. Trump said. “As a businessman, I need that.”

Or here, at the Aug 6th Republican Debate?

TRUMP: Sounds good. Sounds good to me, Governor. I will tell you that our system is broken. I gave to many people, before this, before two months ago, I was a businessman. I give to everybody. When they call, I give. And do you know what? When I need something from them two years later, three years later, I call them, they are there for me.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So what did you get?

TRUMP: And that's a broken system.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What did you get from Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi?

TRUMP: Well, I'll tell you what, with Hillary Clinton, I said be at my wedding and she came to my wedding. You know why? She didn't have a choice because I gave.

This quote starts at the 50min mark in this debate:

a reply to: imsoconfused

This Election is Very Simple to Understand , the Candidates are Only the Avatars of Two Distinct Political Ideologies . Socialism or Capitalism . Pick One .........

originally posted by: enlightenedservant

originally posted by: imsoconfused

originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: imsoconfused

In other words, you believe anything that a politician you like tells you? Trump's donated to different politicians from different political parties for decades. How does that make him an outsider?

What? My mom, my dad, my grandma, my grandpa, my wifes mom, my wifes dad, and just about every political baby boomer I know has donated money to politicians and campaigns.

We still get a letter for my dead grandma from the DNC every year asking for money.

So are they all insiders?

That depends. Are their situations similar to what Trump described (HERE), in a Wall Street Journal interview?:

“As a businessman and a very substantial donor to very important people, when you give, they do whatever the hell you want them to do,” Mr. Trump said. “As a businessman, I need that.”

Or here, at the Aug 6th Republican Debate?

TRUMP: Sounds good. Sounds good to me, Governor. I will tell you that our system is broken. I gave to many people, before this, before two months ago, I was a businessman. I give to everybody. When they call, I give. And do you know what? When I need something from them two years later, three years later, I call them, they are there for me.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So what did you get?

TRUMP: And that's a broken system.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What did you get from Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi?

TRUMP: Well, I'll tell you what, with Hillary Clinton, I said be at my wedding and she came to my wedding. You know why? She didn't have a choice because I gave.

This quote starts at the 50min mark in this debate:

So Hillary can be bought?

a reply to: imsoconfused

Of course she can. You've seen the shady business about the Clinton Foundation, right? Or what, did you assume I was a Hillary fan?

originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: imsoconfused

Of course she can. You've seen the shady business about the Clinton Foundation, right? Or what, did you assume I was a Hillary fan?

I did assume that if I was wrong sry lol.

I assumed because I know you are an Obama fan and as far as I am concerned they are 1 in the same.

I would rather have the guy that buys off the crooked politician then the crooked politician any day.