Enjoy Earth While It Lasts: Atmospheric Carbon Levels Pass the Point of No Return

a reply to: playswithmachines

storms means more ozone

No. Ozone is a pollutant in the lower atmosphere. The ozone layer is caused by solar radiation, not storms.

a reply to: Greven

hahahahahaha

I see that organic chemistry degree is paying off.

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TheRedneck

a reply to: Phage

It is said to be poisonous to humans, though i have lived with it for many years
Ozone is pimarily made by electrical discharge in O2, or lightning, creating the O3 bond.

1 molecule of CFC can destroy 100's of O3 molecules, an almost perfect catalyst. The lateast 'Greencool" refrigerant is just as deadly, only it's heavier so it will take another 10 years to reach the upper atmosphere.

Oops didn't Dupont mention that?
My bad...........

a reply to: playswithmachines

Ozone is pimarily made by electrical discharge in O2, or lightning, creating the O3 bond.

In the lower atmosphere it's produced primarily by sunlight.
In the upper atmosphere it's produced by sunlight.

Ground level or "bad" ozone is not emitted directly into the air, but is created by chemical reactions between oxides of nitrogen (NOx) and volatile organic compounds (VOC) in the presence of sunlight.

Emissions from industrial facilities and electric utilities, motor vehicle exhaust, gasoline vapors, and chemical solvents are some of the major sources of NOx and VOC.

a reply to: Phage

Fine, i can easily test that by putting O2 in a jar & leave it in the window, i dont have a spectrum analyser but i can tell O3 by smell, i bet my tesla coil generates 100 times more O3 than sunlight.

I need to get the O2 from my work, it may take a week or so....

a reply to: playswithmachines

Add some combustion products and organic compounds to the mix.
You know, like the ones that are found in the atmosphere.

a reply to: roadgravel

NOX is also generated by lightning in the atmosphere, Tesla even had a patent on it......

a reply to: playswithmachines

Tesla even had a patent on it......

On NOX? What for?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: playswithmachines

Add some combustion products and organic compounds to the mix.
You know, like the ones that are found in the atmosphere.

Most of the wierd chemicals found in our atmosphere weren't there 100 years ago. Doesen't that say enough?

a reply to: playswithmachines

Says something, yes.
But ozone is produced primarily by sunlight and the ozone layer has nothing to do with storms.

Patented a process of making nitrogen compounds using high voltage?

He wouldn't have patented lightning making nitrogen compounds.

And of course, nitrogen compounds can be make by numerous methods.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: playswithmachines

Tesla even had a patent on it......

On NOX? What for?

Atmospheric burning of nitrogen, i don't know what for, but i know that nowadays it's a time & energy consuming process used in chemical plants, i worked them for 5 years.....NOX used to be used as laughing gas a mild narcotic sedative used by dentists, too much of it leads to coma & respiratory failiure.

Oh yes, it's used to make fertiliser, of course!

a reply to: roadgravel

I'm interested.
What's the patent number?

originally posted by: gladtobehere
a reply to: network dude

We exhale carbon dioxide.

Should we stop breathing?

There are those who say yes, but they mean you, of course, not them.

originally posted by: roadgravel
Patented a process of making nitrogen compounds using high voltage?

He wouldn't have patented lightning making nitrogen compounds.

And of course, nitrogen compounds can be make by numerous methods.

He did. No-one seems to have noticed.

a reply to: roadgravel NOX is also generated by lightning in the atmosphere, Tesla even had a patent on it......

I don't know of it.

You'll have to ask playswithmachines

a reply to: ketsuko

There are those who say yes, but they mean you, of course, not them.

Breathing is carbon neutral. You exhale carbon which came from the air. Burning fossil fuels is not carbon neutral.

Of course, if you stop breathing you will eliminate your carbon footprint.

Good deal. The plants will be happy.