Ted Cruz just proved exactly how principled the GOP is.

So the " most principled conservative" just showed exactly where his loyalties lay...


Not with his wife or father...


Not with his principles or the constitution...


Not with American conservatism as it has been sold for the past few decades...


But with a couple big donors and his political career...

After Trump's perfectly orcastrated political assassination of cruz at the RNC. It was widely reported that Cruz was literally locked out of the room by the big donors at the RNC...but he did become the hope of the never trumpers, because they hoped Trump would fail and Cruz would be the guy who "told you so.."


Which wasn't a fair title because Cruz wasn't really standing up to trump at the RNC , but was attempting to meet him in the middle.

He wouldn't endorse Trump, but he wouldn't blast him either. Effectively setting the stage to mend the fence.

Well trump took the oppertunity to cut his head off in front of the whole country.

So make no mistake this is Cruz bending the knee and kissing the ring before he becomes irrelevant.

Sowing exactly how principled the "most principled conservative" really is.

a reply to: JoshuaCox

Kind of like Bernie huh?

a reply to: JoshuaCox

So much for "Vote Your Conscience!" eh?

It's sad really. Really sad.

originally posted by: stosh64
a reply to: JoshuaCox

Kind of like Bernie huh?

Maybe.. Don't know that Hillary personally attacked his wife and father. Nor did Hillary pretend he was going mend fences and instead publicly embarrass him in front of the entire country lol

a reply to: JoshuaCox

I agrre, inspite of the personal attacks on his family etc. - he is doing the right thing and opposing Hillary.

a reply to: JoshuaCox

Politician or principled.

Pick one.

Cruz has a personal problem. That doesn't reflect on the entire GOP, as you claim; it reflects on him. If you will remember, no one likes Cruz, including his fellow GOP congressmen. His "principles" are that of an Evangelical conservative. Would you have supported him had he become the nominee? Put another way, would he have done as well against Clinton? When all is said and done and the rhetoric put aside, Cruz has a very limited appeal. Cruz is far right and Trump is a moderate. I don't particularly care what Cruz does as long as he does not become POTUS, but to suggest that whatever he does reflects badly on the GOP is, I think, a rather insane idea.

a reply to: JoshuaCox

So, I suppose HRC demonstrates how pirincipled the Democrats are.

originally posted by: Steak
a reply to: JoshuaCox

I agrre, inspite of the personal attacks on his family etc. - he is doing the right thing and opposing Hillary.

The right thing for the GOP today?

Or the right thing for constitutional conservatism?

If trump wins, the evangelical, social issue lead GOP is dead. Now I think that's a great thing and one reason I'm voting for him.

But Ted has been preaching conservatism, not GOPism.

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: JoshuaCox

So, I suppose HRC demonstrates how pirincipled the Democrats are.

Only talking about Ted Cruz. Not trump nor the GOP as a whole.

Ted has played holier than tho from the start.

originally posted by: schuyler
Cruz has a personal problem. That doesn't reflect on the entire GOP, as you claim; it reflects on him. If you will remember, no one likes Cruz, including his fellow GOP congressmen. His "principles" are that of an Evangelical conservative. Would you have supported him had he become the nominee? Put another way, would he have done as well against Clinton? When all is said and done and the rhetoric put aside, Cruz has a very limited appeal. Cruz is far right and Trump is a moderate. I don't particularly care what Cruz does as long as he does not become POTUS, but to suggest that whatever he does reflects badly on the GOP is, I think, a rather insane idea.

Agreed.

I'm mainly talking about the talk radio crowd who hearalded Cruz as their hero. I agree Cruz would have lost by 20 points to ...anyone else really in a national election..

originally posted by: stosh64
a reply to: JoshuaCox

Kind of like Bernie huh?

I have yet to hear Senator Sanders say "Vote for Hillary Clinton" in so many words.

He is actually doing what he agreed to do when he was allowed to run as a democrat which was 'campaign with the nominee'.

He is more often 'dissing' the republican nominee and saying that he would be a horrific president. He does state facts about her skills and qualifications but to my knowlege, never says vote for Hillary.

Jill Stein of the Green Party offered to step aside for him to run as their candidate. He did not because he made a deal with the democrats and he is a man of his word.

Actually, this 'flip-flop' by Cruz is just another example of his and many, if not most, of his compatriots 'principles'.

He pledged to support the nominee.

He finally kept his word.

That is the only principle at play here.

a reply to: JoshuaCox

What do you care? I don't care about it. Cruz is a hardcore, anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-everything scum bag. Trump doesn't really care about that.

Complete non-news.

ETA: nobody is changing sides at this point. The lines are drawn. Shut the f=%/ up and wait for the election. It just stinks of desperation at this point. We already understand that Trump is a # bag.

a reply to: FyreByrd

I have yet to hear Senator Sanders say "Vote for Hillary Clinton" in so many words. 

Old news.

originally posted by: Ksihkehe
a reply to: JoshuaCox

What do you care? I don't care about it. Cruz is a hardcore, anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-everything scum bag. Trump doesn't really care about that.

Complete non-news.

ETA: nobody is changing sides at this point. The lines are drawn. Shut the f=%/ up and wait for the election. It just stinks of desperation at this point. We already understand that Trump is a # bag.

I'm voting for trump prob lol.


I'm pointing out that the "most conservative guy in Washington " (Ted Cruz) is 100% not motivated by "conservative principles."


I'm thrilled the conservative movement is losing the GOP and America as a whole. I think all those politicians who get up Ther and thump their bible and preach their personal morality as law. Have showed America exactly how moral they are flip floping for trump.

originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
He pledged to support the nominee.

He finally kept his word.

That is the only principle at play here.

He's not doing it to keep his word...

He is doing it because the big donors cut him off and his primary opponent is using it against him...

a reply to: JoshuaCox

Those asshats sold their souls long ago. I definitely raise a glass to the Christian conservatives losing their hold on the right. Conservatives should be all about fiscal responsibility, all the bible thumping doesn't belong in Washington.

originally posted by: Ksihkehe
a reply to: JoshuaCox

Those asshats sold their souls long ago. I definitely raise a glass to the Christian conservatives losing their hold on the right. Conservatives should be all about fiscal responsibility, all the bible thumping doesn't belong in Washington.

I agree with liberal policies, but any democrat would have the GOP congress unite against them.

Hillarry could never pass single payer or min wage hike...

Trump though... Ted Cruz is the shining example of what happens to those who won't bend the knee..

I think trump will literally trade every liberal position for his wall...and I don't think any dems won't trade him.


It will be his monument to outlast the ages, like the Roman emporer a of old.

Cruz did this to himself. He made a pledge to support the nominee. I was satisfied that he has never said "Don't vote for Trump" but it may be that he was getting enough pressure from his Texan constituents about his oath that he finally gave in.

I'd still vote for him again.