Four dead in shooting at Cascade Mall in Burlington; suspect not in custody

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

In replies to the tweet you posted, it is being said that 2 of the victims were his ex-girlfriend and her grandmother. Really sad and senseless.

ETA: Sorry, just saw that another member posted the same info.

victim Sarai Lara

a reply to: misfit312

Fox News reporting suspect in custody.

Fox

He is from Turkey, all you guys speculating he was NOT Hispanic were spot on.

a reply to: Ameilia

So, speculation based on lack of information is a good thing?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Ameilia

So, speculation based on lack of information is a good thing?

I stated a fact, people who noted he wasn't Hispanic were correct.

No where did I provide my personal opinion on anyone's statements.

Furthermore, they did have information. They had a photo image from which certain people were able to observe enough features to pinpoint ethnicity better than the rest of us.

a reply to: Ameilia
Ok.

Appearances can deceive. No?

originally posted by: Feltrick
So a guy walks into a mall, murders 5 people and is still on the lose but the msm isn't covering it. What's wrong with this picture, folkso?

How is it that they only have one fuzzy picture of the shooter even though the malls have plenty of security cameras? They were able to pinpoint the NYC bomber in a matter of hours but this guy seems to have vanished and no one seems to care.

Does it not fit the agenda?

Yes, it is very strange isn't it? Like a blip and then it's gone... ?! WTF?!!

Update: they got him!

www.cnn.com...

Press conference starting soon.

I TOLD YOU this dick was from the Middle East!! I did!!!!

Unreal!! Yeah, some "Mexican", right?

NOT

Oak Harbor, where he lived, is a military town, there is a Navy base there. He worked at the commissary as a bagger at one point.

Still no motive per the authorities.

How long is it going to take people to get it?

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Get wut?

www.king5.com...
Arresting officer described the suspect as "frozen, zombie like."

Another witness said he recognized the suspect from seeing him at the gym at Naval Air Station Whidbey Island.

How did the suspect have access to a military base?

a reply to: starviego

Perhaps he was in the Air Force or other branch of the military?

originally posted by: starviego

www.king5.com...
Arresting officer described the suspect as "frozen, zombie like."

Another witness said he recognized the suspect from seeing him at the gym at Naval Air Station Whidbey Island.

How did the suspect have access to a military base?

Watcher posted above that he worked in the commissary as a bagger.

Some people recognized him as someone who used the gym.

Civilians work on all military bases.

The gyms and other services are also available to military and their dependants.

a reply to: Phage

Well...

Oh, never mind.

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Domestic violence incidents, but no convictions

In October 2014, Cetin was added as a defendant in a domestic violence-related case – however, he was ultimately not convicted. At the time a judge was told Cetin was just over 18 and has no place to go. Also that month, Cetin was told not to possess firearms. The court was told it was not clear were Cetin would be staying.

A formal no-contact order was entered for each parent, according to court records.

Court records also show his dad called – and that call was referred to the prosecutor’s office – saying Cetin’s uncle was not willing to let him stay at his residence in Sumer. There was a request for the no-contact order to be lifted.

The case judge did not lift the order, but set a hearing date for later in the year. Court records show Cetin was staying in room 17 of a local motel.

In November 2014 – the same month Cetin pleaded not guilty – his address was updated to Coupeville.

On Dec. 2, 2014, court records show Cetin’s parents were present for a hearing to lift the no-contact requirement.

A prosecutor asked about firearms, and Cetin’s mother said those were removed, according to court records.

A day later at a separate hearing, a judge granted a motion to cancel the no-contact order.

As the case continued in 2015, additional counseling was recommended, court records show. They also show that case was tracked with a separate Island County case involving another alleged victim.

As part of that misdemeanor assault case, Cetin was ordered to undergo a mental health evaluation in August 2015. The evaluation was completed as of March 2016, according to court records.

There also were questions in the court file about cannabis use. But last April a judge asked how that related to his mental health evaluation, saying it was not a mental health issue.

In May, a judge approved deferred prosecution in that assault case – meaning Cetin was not convicted – and he was ordered not to have alcohol or drugs as part of the deferment.

As of Aug. 25, 2016, Cetin was in compliance with weekly sessions for mental health counseling. He complied with the alcohol assessment, according to court records, and he had a deferred prosecution review for the case scheduled for 2018.

source

So there seems to be a time where there was a no contact order with the parents and more..Edit to add "told not to possess firearms...Seems to me he might have made a threat with a firearm..

originally posted by: misfit312

Domestic violence incidents, but no convictions

In October 2014, Cetin was added as a defendant in a domestic violence-related case – however, he was ultimately not convicted. At the time a judge was told Cetin was just over 18 and has no place to go. Also that month, Cetin was told not to possess firearms. The court was told it was not clear were Cetin would be staying.

A formal no-contact order was entered for each parent, according to court records.

Court records also show his dad called – and that call was referred to the prosecutor’s office – saying Cetin’s uncle was not willing to let him stay at his residence in Sumer. There was a request for the no-contact order to be lifted.

The case judge did not lift the order, but set a hearing date for later in the year. Court records show Cetin was staying in room 17 of a local motel.

In November 2014 – the same month Cetin pleaded not guilty – his address was updated to Coupeville.

On Dec. 2, 2014, court records show Cetin’s parents were present for a hearing to lift the no-contact requirement.

A prosecutor asked about firearms, and Cetin’s mother said those were removed, according to court records.

A day later at a separate hearing, a judge granted a motion to cancel the no-contact order.

As the case continued in 2015, additional counseling was recommended, court records show. They also show that case was tracked with a separate Island County case involving another alleged victim.

As part of that misdemeanor assault case, Cetin was ordered to undergo a mental health evaluation in August 2015. The evaluation was completed as of March 2016, according to court records.

There also were questions in the court file about cannabis use. But last April a judge asked how that related to his mental health evaluation, saying it was not a mental health issue.

In May, a judge approved deferred prosecution in that assault case – meaning Cetin was not convicted – and he was ordered not to have alcohol or drugs as part of the deferment.

As of Aug. 25, 2016, Cetin was in compliance with weekly sessions for mental health counseling. He complied with the alcohol assessment, according to court records, and he had a deferred prosecution review for the case scheduled for 2018.

source

So there seems to be a time where there was a no contact order with the parents and more..Edit to add "told not to possess firearms...Seems to me he might have made a threat with a firearm..

Just in time for these upcoming Washington State measures:


·"Measure would allow family members and police to petition a judge to take guns from a person considered a danger to themselves or others"-

A ballot measure that would allow authorities to temporarily seize guns from those considered a danger to themselves or others in Washington state is getting strong support from Democrats and Republicans, according to an independent poll.

Three-quarters of Democrats and 55% of Republicans are in favor of the measure, which is aimed at stopping shootings and suicides before they happen, according to last month’s Elway Poll, a long-running independent poll in Washington.

Source

·Rep. Jim Moeller’s HB 2354 calling for a ban “assault weapons”, which will be brought up for voting next year
"Section 2 subsection 1 “No person in this state may manufacture, possess, purchase, sell, or otherwise transfer any assault weapon/high capacity mags except as authorized in this section.” "One source

"As of Aug. 25, 2016, Cetin was in compliance with weekly sessions for mental health counseling. "

Yup, another SSRI success story.

a reply to: misfit312

I'm curious WTH does compliant with weekly sessions for mental health counselling mean? He was seeing a professional? A mental health professional? Weekly? And then a month later he loses it and shoots up a mall, taking out his alleged ex- girlfriend... I'm confused. Well whatever it is it's clearly useless.