Charlotte Shooting Video: Footage Shows Fatal Encounter Between Police, Keith Lamont Scott

originally posted by: ReAdY2AsCeNd
For all those saying there was no gun in the video, if you stop the video on 1:48 you will see the gun in the video that the wife of Mr. Scott took.

Crystal Clear

A gun is there.

TV cable MSM is swinging the other way for some reason.

originally posted by: shooterbrody
Why did the officers speak to the victim at all? He was in his own vehicle minding his own business. Running the plates would confirm he was not the person the warrant was issued for.

Thats what i was thinking.

And what made him seem like the guy the warrant was for?

What was the warrant for? I hope something ver serious to create escalations like this fairly regularly with warrant roundups.

which vehicle was he sitting in and how did get from that vehicle to where he lay? which looked to me a lot closer to the cops than where they were pointing their guns?

a reply to: CriticalStinker

If his disability and medication is that severe, WTF IS HE DOING DRIVING?

"Keith, don't do it!"

Doesn't that say pretty much everything?
He just took his medication.

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: scojak

That doesn't really account for the actual relationship between cops and the black community. If the social contract is percieved as broken we cant just say well he was beligerant he deserved it. It also takes the pressure off politicians who have ignored these issues in their districts because of voting demographics.

That's not the argument...

It was pretty clear that I was arguing that all that can be proven from the video is that he was a coherent and cognizant man who did not comply with what the cops were telling to do.

In fact, you should be preaching to the people saying there was a gun planted. They are the one's blinded by what you are talking about, assuming that the cops were out to get this guy, killed him and then planted a gun.

I spoke objectively on the situation and only acknowledged the facts.

a reply to: scojak

So the police are going to let a gun sit 2 feet from the suspect?

I do not see a gun in the video, at least not in the position the gun is in when the photo was taken.
Is kicking or moving a gun around a crime scene acceptable police procedure? Why would they not have bagged it as evidence once they determined it was safe?

Maybe just do what the police say? Blatant defiance sure doesn't help your case.

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: scojak

It is true thoug that the gun for what ever reason was placed there for the photo and was not on the scene.

How do you know that, because it's not visable in a shaky, blurry video?

Cops do plant guns. A guy just got busted in st louis for it. (For an older shooting)

Proof of a past action by one person is not proof of current or future actions by all people.

It stands to reason that some cop at some point saw a bug and stepped on it, mercilessly killing it. Does that mean all cops do that all the time? Of course not.

Your logic makes absolutely no sense.

originally posted by: WilburnRoach
a reply to: scojak

So the police are going to let a gun sit 2 feet from the suspect?

Does that mean it was a planted gun that they let sit two feet from the suspect?

In case you can't tell, I am implying that what you said proves nothing.

In fact, you're right, they wouldn't let it a gun sit that close which makes it all the more likely that it's not a gun you're seeing.

a reply to: Deny Arrogance

Noone can answer that. We just don't know all the details. If it turns out there was a gun than it is what It is. Till then I won't risk looking like an asshole beating a dead husband and father.

Only thing I see in the current situation is its fishy on both sides. And it would behoove the police to just release their footage or there will be more violence.

Addition : if the video shows the police were justified let's end this. And if they weren't, God forbid we hold people accountable for their actions, a foreign word to government these days.

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: queenofswords

She says, "Don't get out of the car" several times, then says "Don't do it".

It is pretty clear she says common out the car she doesn't want him to make them break the windows!

The gun shows up at exactly 1:43 in this video .....


Dramatic new video shows fatal encounter with Keith Scott and police

Anaylize It

a reply to: bluesjr

Yes, the tape tells me that the picture was taken well after the shooting, and after the video footage.

This one, maybe it looks a little like a gun


But not here..


Or here.



Here, the gun has been deliberately placed in the photo, or shopped in, where it wasn't there before.

a reply to: SeaWorthy

This is the 3rd time that I'm admitting that I was mistaken.

originally posted by: Kentuckymama
I'm a bit behind in this story. Can anyone tell me why they were pulled over to begin with? Was he driving or in the passenger seat?

Police arrived at The Village at College Downs complex near the University of North Carolina at Charlotte to search for someone else with an outstanding warrant. Officers said they saw Scott holding a handgun as he exited his car and returned to his vehicle.

The wife was right there so I would assume this was home.

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: SeaWorthy

This is the 3rd time that I'm admitting that I was mistaken.

Sorry

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: windword

Nope. His brother said he had a gun and the whole reason he got out of the truck in the first place was because he was armed and scared.

Of course it's the same brother that said officers had nothing on to identify themselves as police and jumped out of their vehicles and immediately shot the deceased, so I suppose we can't take his word for much.

I'm not sure if you have seen the daughter's livestream video but she and her uncle say at least once that "they have guns too" to the officers on the scene. Then she says "she has a gun" several more times and "she can show them a gun". She also says on that livestream that she is "going to be setting some stuff off tonight" because her daddy got shot by those white cracker b!tches. She also was doing a lot of terroristic threatening on the video and her friend was tampering with a police investigation. Nothing was done about this - I would assume because of blowback.

If my husband had been shot by an officer and my daughter was in the street behaving in this manner I would first smack the taste out of her mouth, then yoke her up and take her phone until she could conduct herself in a more suitable manner.

I realize this is off topic and I apologize in advance to the OP.

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: bluesjr

Yes, the tape tells me that the picture was taken well after the shooting, and after the video footage.

This one, maybe it looks a little like a gun

But not here..

Or here.

Here, the gun has been deliberately placed in the photo, or shopped in, where it wasn't there before.

The first pause of the video you have posted is before the black officer picks up the weapon.

The 2nd and 3rd pauses of the video are after the black officer has picked up the weapon.

I have no clue about the photo you have shown. Maybe it was an after pic with the gun placed at the side of the scene. I don't know the proper procedure because I am not an officer.