the Mandela effect.... you've been successfully clicked baited

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: Greggers
The Mandela Effect can be described by the following characteristics:

1) Many people who share the same improperly coded or outright corrupted memories
2) Who would rather believe they are from an alternate timeline than accept any of the myriad real-world, present-reality explanations that they haven't even bothered trying to rule out.

That's pretty much it in a nutshell.

No, you mean to say any timeline other than yours.

Since this timeline is the only one empirically proven to exist, that's redundant and unnecessary.

originally posted by: luciferslight
a reply to: charlyv

Doesn't explain why the voice actor proclaimed that line "Luke I am your father" in an interview.

Why not?

a reply to: reldra


is Mandela.com a real website.
i don't see that it has ever existed. neither on Wayback machine.

Won't the movie "Mirror Mirror" be titled "Magic Mirror" if thats how it always was in Cinderella ?

originally posted by: wickd_waze
Won't the movie "Mirror Mirror" be titled "Magic Mirror" if thats how it always was in Cinderella ?

Why would it be?

A title isn't chosen because of its ability to accurately convey the original spoken English in the older movie from which it took inspiration.

Double.

originally posted by: luciferslight
a reply to: charlyv

Doesn't explain why the voice actor proclaimed that line "Luke I am your father" in an interview.

Being a human with the same memory constructors as everyone else, he is victim of the same phenomena. Now, had he given that interview the day after the movie came out... it would have some legs.

a reply to: charlyv

Probably not in this case. Are actors consultant for every change in post production and in the editing room?

a reply to: charlyv

So him not saying it in an interview matters? Ok cool

a reply to: luciferslight

Had Charlyv left off the last sentence I would have agreed with him 100%.
I believe the impact of pop culture and what we hear after the fact is almost irrelevant.

This is a clear case of Mandolia (yes, I'm sticking with it)

"No, I am your father" is not a standalone quote as it raises the question of what he said "no" to and who is involved.
"Luke, I am your father" allows it to be a standalone quote without complicating it with things like facts.

The incorrect one is clearly the easier once to process which is why it is the most common.
Had you asked him how Vader said he's a father on the day he filmed the lines I think he would have said the same.

a reply to: charlyv
Anyone remember or got a viral email fwd like a dozen years back, it was a a small paragraph and you had to count how many times the word (the) appears? It was brain teaser most people guessed wrong coming up 3 or 4 (the's) short. No one got less than one or got them all except for a coworker originally from Chile or Columbia can't remember which. My point is the programming we grew up with in North America had everyone come up with similar results. That lady's first language was Spanish and got them all right. Other coworkers who spoke fluent Spanish from here or mexico did the same as everyone else coming up short 3 or 4 "the's". So really our programming contributes to how so many are experiencing the same affects.

originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar
a reply to: luciferslight

Had Charlyv left off the last sentence I would have agreed with him 100%.
I believe the impact of pop culture and what we hear after the fact is almost irrelevant.

This is a clear case of Mandolia (yes, I'm sticking with it)

"No, I am your father" is not a standalone quote as it raises the question of what he said "no" to and who is involved.
"Luke, I am your father" allows it to be a standalone quote without complicating it with things like facts.

The incorrect one is clearly the easier once to process which is why it is the most common.
Had you asked him how Vader said he's a father on the day he filmed the lines I think he would have said the same.

Excellent analysis.

This also explains why "Luke, I am your father" was used on a lot of the T-shirts and other merchandise -- it's a stand alone quote uncomplicated by other factors in that scene.

originally posted by: Greggers

originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar
a reply to: luciferslight

Had Charlyv left off the last sentence I would have agreed with him 100%.
I believe the impact of pop culture and what we hear after the fact is almost irrelevant.

This is a clear case of Mandolia (yes, I'm sticking with it)

"No, I am your father" is not a standalone quote as it raises the question of what he said "no" to and who is involved.
"Luke, I am your father" allows it to be a standalone quote without complicating it with things like facts.

The incorrect one is clearly the easier once to process which is why it is the most common.
Had you asked him how Vader said he's a father on the day he filmed the lines I think he would have said the same.

Excellent analysis.

This also explains why "Luke, I am your father" was used on a lot of the T-shirts and other merchandise -- it's a stand alone quote uncomplicated by other factors in that scene.

You can thank Eddie Izzard and some John Belushi skits for the hijacked memory. IMO

a reply to: charlyv

If Izzard and Belushi are responsible for our mistake then who is responsible for their mistake?

a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar

Themselves and/or coked up writers.

Oh crap. I told myself I was going to lay off this.


*I was never here*

a reply to: Phage

That just leads us back to how did they both make the same mistake? Which is the essential argument for people thinking that it's proof of voodoo or whatever explanation they like.

It doesn't explain why in every case of the Mandella Effect what we remember intuitively makes more sense than what actually happened.

Mandolia explains this perfectly and is testable.

a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar

Yeah. I know.
We are, after all, human. With brains that work more or less the same way.


Dammit. I did it again.

*poof*
*I was never here*

originally posted by: pimptriggs
a reply to: reldra


is Mandela.com a real website.
i don't see that it has ever existed. neither on Wayback machine.

Here you go... mandelaeffectsite.wordpress.com...

This is a mirror site Fiona Broome set up after her initial site was hacked. Fiona is the one that started the Mandela Effect storm.

Here's some more info about Fiona Broome:

fionabroome.com...

originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar
a reply to: Phage

That just leads us back to how did they both make the same mistake? Which is the essential argument for people thinking that it's proof of voodoo or whatever explanation they like.

It doesn't explain why in every case of the Mandella Effect what we remember intuitively makes more sense than what actually happened.

Mandolia explains this perfectly and is testable.

I actually think you/re onto something with this whole Mandolia thing. And I don't really have a bone to pick with the basic concept, accept that I do think human beings tend to inform one another's perceptions. There have been numerous studies that show one person changing another's perception, whether the thought being effected conforms to the Mandolia simplicity principles or not.

While it's true that "Luke, I am your father" is indeed simpler than "No, I am your father," I believe the vast majority of people, if quizzed about that line, would have probably said, "I have no idea what was actually said in the movie," except for the fact that it was an iconic line butchered by 100 different people in the same way (perhaps because of Mandolia, as you say), plus the line was actually used on merchandise as a calculated decision (rather than the result of a mistake). That line was repeated so many times that a huge number of people stopped having the normal human reaction of admitting they'd need to review the footage to know conclusively and started believing they actually KNEW.

Words and thoughts can be transmitted like a virus.