Putting Religion/The World Into Perspective. In One Fell Swoop.

a reply to: BlackProject

The Earth didn't give me life.

Do you think you sprang whole from underneath a cabbage leaf?

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: BlackProject

The Earth didn't give me life.

Do you think you sprang whole from underneath a cabbage leaf?

As I stated, your mother gave you life and if you go back far enough, the earth gave you life.

Break down of the human body. Oxygen, Carbon, Hydrogen, Nitrogen, Calcium, Phosphorus, Potassium, Sulfur, Sodium, Chlorine and Magnesium. Go outside, get a hand full of dirt from your favourite patch and run a test on it.

You will find you are made up of the earth you walk on. So YES, the earth gave you life.... and yes pretty much we sprang from under a cabbage leaf.

a reply to: BlackProject

Oh ok. Sounded like a rant and not a poem. lol

Let me be God's voice for a moment...

Is that what God does? He helps?

Short answer, no. He doesn't interfere, hence the "free will". We've created this hell. We can create whatever within and abroad. Do your part and be what you want to see.

How about the countless wars declared in his name?

God isn't making people fight and kill, put the blame where it belongs.... They do it for their own greed and political agendas. They do it because they are mentally ill and/or brainwashed.

How about the racist, sexist, phobia soup we've all been drowning in because of him?

Again, blame the ones who do such or promote such. Ancient texts are manipulated for an agenda that has nothing to do with love. "God is Love".

That all religions are just metastasising mind worms, meant to divide us so it's easier to rule us by the charlatans that want to run us. All we are to them are paying fanboys of their poorly-written sci-fi franchise.

Not all religions can be grouped as such nor can each church be grouped to the same denomination. If you truly wanted to take what someone like say Jesus taught and implement into your life then you would do what he did and not be a part of the money changers "group". You would give your time to those in need.

People think their worship's some key to happiness. That's just how he owns you

While on Earth we are "owned" by our government. Some people are much happier worshiping or gardening or skating.... to each his own. When it harms you or yours, that is another story.

I believe some people get very angry due to the bs in the Bible. With such anger they cannot read it like any other book and they should. You have to take the good with the bad and decipher/discern what is true to your heart and let the rest go. Christians will say you are not a true christian by doing that but I say to that who cares.

The world in a nut shell is in chaos. Chaos divides and as long as we allow our self to be divided from human kind they are carrying out their agenda. Don't let them.

When we talk about others to make our self look good it in turn shows our true nature which isn't attractive. Politics today is a great example. For months we have listened to these dumb asses talk crap about each other and it's creating even more chaos. Truly nuts!

a reply to: BlackProject

You will find you are made up of the earth you walk on

We are made of stardust.

a reply to: BlackProject

Enlightenment as a whole should be practiced sure as this is basically someone realising what is really going on around them, the world, themselves, life.

Your mind is fixated on the dream thinking its everything. Enlightenment is a spiritual realisation, a much greater truth.

However I would never put anyone through the torture of fearing the outcome of not believing in god. As it is known, most of America is God fearing, hence like most places of the world. FEAR is the keyword.

I do not belong to a religion that promotes fear.

a reply to: BlackProject

Jesus is religion, as religion is jesus

Not at all... you must not have studied Jesus. He never wanted a label and was most certainly a radical of sorts. He created a following based upon the kindness and love he shared. He taught others what God is which is.... LOVE!!

originally posted by: MamaJ
a reply to: BlackProject

Oh ok. Sounded like a rant and not a poem. lol

Not to be rude but your religious clearly. So my explanation to you would be like trying to crack open a coconut with a paper hammer.

We do not create our hell, most of us live happy lives when left alone. It is the madness of religion and the corporate engrained life it creates for all of us. As I said earlier I think my point is too big for here, I am talking literally hundreds and thousands of years worth of lies to the human race that is not going to be undone ever I suspect.

I think it was pointless me posting here considering those that understand me are the ones that will tend to not seek such injustice of a way of life as religion is to follow. Those that are religious will reject what I say altogether, so I do feel I was to high spirited to expect any form of genuine questioning to occur.

originally posted by: MamaJ
a reply to: BlackProject

Jesus is religion, as religion is jesus

Not at all... you must not have studied Jesus. He never wanted a label and was most certainly a radical of sorts. He created a following based upon the kindness and love he shared. He taught others what God is which is.... LOVE!!

Goodness. I know all there is to know about this, my point is Jesus is a product, of religion. Therefore his entire story, life and anything to do with him is part of the lie the Bible tells.

God is not love, maybe your reading the wrong book I have read because its nothing but hell on earth what is promotes.

I feel my energy spent replying in this way is better spent elsewhere, sadly.

originally posted by: MamaJ
a reply to: BlackProject

You will find you are made up of the earth you walk on

We are made of stardust.

Again, goodness. Yes, earth is part of the stars we see, hence we are stars, we are earth....... on and on and on ....

a reply to: BlackProject

Not to be rude but your religious clearly

Clearly, you are wrong. I am "spiritual" and really would rather not label myself.

We do not create our hell

Kidding me right? Ummmm... yes, we really do create our own hell by the choices we make. Some are not of our control however each choice we make has a consequence rather good or bad. Humans have created this world we live in today. I call it a hell. To each his own.

I am talking literally hundreds and thousands of years worth of lies to the human race that is not going to be undone ever I suspect.

Lies are in every story and it's up to you to find the truth for yourself. Blaming all religions for the chaos doesn't quite cut it for me, sorry.

a reply to: BlackProject

God revealed Himself in His word. Jesus was the incarnation of God. Neither God nor Jesus (the God-man) taught religion. They revealed the path to a personal relationship with God.

Religion is what happens when man gets his greasy finger on God's word. Wars, murder, chaos...that is all man, not God. We are given a collective freedom, and we choose to collectively oppress each other. Again, not God's fault.

Atheists always be tryin to convert people

Everyone always wants to blame God (a God they don't even belive in) for all the ills in the world, but never to be grateful for all they have.

Have you taken a second to consider how many millions of deaths last century were attributed to atheist tyrants?

Why don't your types just let people practice their belifs in peace instead of forcing your bigoted misinformation on them? The animosity doesn't make sense. All the little blue haired ladies at the church bake sale did nothing to invoke your ire. Or did they add too much cinnamon to the apple turnovers?

Hope you feel better after the rant, though. It's nothing we haven't heard before.

a reply to: BlackProject

Hmmm, no those elements did not come from the earth. They came from stars which came from the Big Bang and its expansion.

Where did that came from?

@NthOther
For Xena and Gabby it was.

I suppose after reading any kind of religious scripture for a focused long time it is bound to alter the brain patterns. It simply can not be helped.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: BlackProject

Hmmm, no those elements did not come from the earth. They came from stars which came from the Big Bang and its expansion.

Where did that came from?

I have an inkling that the original source for all of it is itself. It is just weird enough to be true.

originally posted by: Tindalos2013
I suppose after reading any kind of religious scripture for a focused long time it is bound to alter the brain patterns. It simply can not be helped.

If you have something more than a stale ad-hominem to add to the debate, I'd be happy to hear it.

Religion is disloyal to the Word of God. The whole notion that a particular Heaven exists is quite horrible. Has anyone wondered why God needs souls.

a reply to: BlackProject

You don't have to be religious to follow the teachings of Jesus. You should read a little more about what religion actually is, then read about what a personal relationship with Jesus is.

Jesus is not an organized religion. Catholicism is an organized religion but not Jesus.

originally posted by: Tindalos2013
Has anyone wondered why God needs souls.

Okay, now we're getting somewhere! Interesting question.. have you wondered why some people long to have children? Why mothers nurse and rock their children to sleep?

People still choose to have kids, even well aware of the horrors the world can offer, and I would guess this is because life is better than oblivion.

Do you agree (that life is better than nothing at all)?

To carry the metaphor out, I'd say that God wanted to create souls in order to love them, bestow them with life, just like we do.
But on a much grander scale, probably.

Your point about a particular heaven is well taken. I'll think on it a bit and see if I can offer any reasonable answer.