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originally posted by: WanderingNomadd
a reply to: Krakatoa
How can anyone in their right minds say we should not fight these psychotic killers with everything we have?
1. These people were created by us, the unrest was created by us, the many deaths and rapes are both because of us and a consequence of us. All instigated on false premises. If you give a psycho a gun and watch him kill people, do you then blame the psycho?
2. Saudi Arabia has some of the worst human right records going but we are best friends with them.
If you want to fight anyone fight the Western Governments.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: WanderingNomadd
You do understand that if you really study your history, Muslims and Islam have been making war upon the world for as long as they have been a religion? Their main means of conversion is by the sword? Yes?
originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: Krakatoa
Who the hell here is gonna defend ISIS's actions?
originally posted by: Rosinitiate
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ugmold
Could you guarantee that if we left the Middle East alone, that they wouldn't spread their brand of vile laws and religion to our shores?
No but I can gaurentee that if we stopped financing them and shipping them arms they'd stop spreading.
Notice how when Al Qeada stopped receiving US black funding they fizzled out.
originally posted by: AmericanRealist
a reply to: NthOther
nobody says we cannot criticize it.
Since President Zia-ul-Haq instigated the death penalty for blasphemy in 1986, more than a thousand cases were registered in Pakistan. There were no authorized executions but Islamist vigilantes killed some of the accused. In January 2011, Salmaan Taseer, the Muslim governor of Punjab, was murdered by his bodyguard for opposing capital punishment for insulting Islam and also defending Christian Pakistani woman Asia Bibi against a blasphemy charge. Taseer’s killer received widespread support. Shahbaz Bhatti, Pakistan’s Minorities Minister and a Christian, was killed in March 2011 for opposing the blasphemy laws.
this "argument" that modern Christians can't criticize religiously motivated violence because of things that happened generations ago is f# stupid.
nobody says we cannot criticize it.
A new analysis by the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion & Public Life finds that as of 2011 nearly half of the countries and territories in the world (47%) have laws or policies that penalize blasphemy, apostasy (abandoning one’s faith) or defamation (disparagement or criticism of particular religions or religion in general). Of the 198 countries studied, 32 (16%) have anti-blasphemy laws, 20 (10%) have laws penalizing apostasy and 87 (44%) have laws against the defamation of religion, including hate speech against members of religious groups.
TALLAHASSEE — Gov. Rick Scott reiterated his tough stance on Syrian refugees Tuesday, saying they should not be allowed in the state and that Congress should not allow any federal money to be used for relocation purposes.
nobody says we cannot criticize it. It would be blatantly ignorant to not point out the fact that the Christian religion is guilty of the exact same crimes that many people who criticize Islam for today. In fact more Americans are murdered by fellow Christians on a daily basis then Muslims can even dream of comparing.
When a jealous husband kills his cheating wife, and they were both in church the previous sunday, that is murder by a Christian. Many of the murders that happen everyday in the USA to American citizens are typically done by people who believe in God, have even a very modest understanding of the bible, and may even be people who pray regularly.
So it would be playing the denial game to NOT claim that Christians are just as violent as Muslims across the globe. Even the Central American cartels and gangs pray to God for luck and success when they go to attack their rivals.
No one is apologizing for Islamic terrorism, but it would be hypocritical to deny that Christians are not also guilty of daily violent crimes. In fact, by default technicalities, Christians may very well be the largest committers of crime in the USA by numbers alone.
originally posted by: superluminal11
a reply to: Krakatoa
Ever notice the victims of ISIS are never high level world leaders? There's a reason for this ya know.
COME ON PEOPLE- You can't be this stupid
originally posted by: Krakatoa
originally posted by: superluminal11
a reply to: Krakatoa
Ever notice the victims of ISIS are never high level world leaders? There's a reason for this ya know.
COME ON PEOPLE- You can't be this stupid
Yes there it. Those people are highly protected by people with heavy arms. These folks only kill the weak and unprotected. Or, id that too simple an answer?
originally posted by: AmericanRealist
a reply to: gps777
My unproven as of yet theory on that is that Christians make up 70% of the US population. It is merely a numbers game. If the majority of the country are in fact Christian of some denomination, then it would be an appropriate measure that individuals who identify as that (even if not practicing) will share a significantly majority share of the responsibility for crime. I am certain atheists are represented as well. But Muslims make up only ALMOST 1% of our population. But if one so much as slaps his wife, the world Muslim will be planted all over the article and spoken several times during broadcast.
could you provide your source on all of those claims as well? You say by example, which means you no doubt have all the Surah's which confirm these claims ready at hand, and not out of context either? Because the Old Testament was pretty damn bloody until Jesus showed up.
I think what Islam is missing today is its own Jesus, but at least even they give respect and props to the prophet Jesus.
originally posted by: superluminal11
originally posted by: Krakatoa
originally posted by: superluminal11
a reply to: Krakatoa
Ever notice the victims of ISIS are never high level world leaders? There's a reason for this ya know.
COME ON PEOPLE- You can't be this stupid
Yes there it. Those people are highly protected by people with heavy arms. These folks only kill the weak and unprotected. Or, id that too simple an answer?
NO----ISIS and those protected leaders are the Same folks---Very much like Frankists and Zevites or AshkeNAZI zionists are the Nazis of Nazi Germany or is that just too complicated and delusional an answer? Well sure it is---that's why they succeed