Syrian regime jets hit Kurdish positions, even after US warning

Well my friends as everyone is concerned about "whatever" it would appear that things have gotten just a tad bit more serious in Syria for the USA's coalition to oust Assad. We have started scrambling jets to stop Russian bombers from bombing our guys in Syria.... Think about that for just a moment ...our guys in Syria....Several of us on this board responded to a thread www.abovetopsecret.com... that basically said August is when things would start getting more intense in the region... Guess that thread was correct.. If you look at a current map of what could only be called a fluid situation in the North of Syria it would show a wide narrow band the Kurds are trying to control and eventually make it a home land for the Kurdish people. Even in this narrow band of land the Kurds are the minority. See video at the end of this op for map of the territory in question.. Watch the whole video (recommended) or skip to 1:45 for the map and the demographics of the area. If I were Assad I would give the Kurds a section of Syria for a homeland if they would switch sides and join his forces in fighting ISIS and anyone else who wanted him ousted simply because the US will use and lose them when they are no longer worth much as tools. No reason to try and name all the ones who it has happened to before for I doubt I could without allot of time invested..
www.dailymail.co.uk...

Syrian regime jets pounded US-backed Kurdish forces in northeastern Syria for a second day, even after the US-led coalition scrambled jets to protect its military advisers working on the ground.

In another escalation of Syria's bloody conflict, warplanes from President Bashar al-Assad's regime were bombarding the city of Hasakeh -- targeting Kurdish forces that for months have worked closely with coalition military advisers helping local fighters combat the Islamic State group.

On Thursday, the United States sent fighter jets to head off air strikes conducted by regime planes and to protect coalition advisers, but the Syrian planes had left by the time they arrived.

Local fighters to combat the Islamic State Group... Sorry but I have to call B.S. on that too...
Also there is this slightly different report: newsletter.thaivisa.com...

On Friday, U.S. aircraft patrolling the area learned that Syrian jets were attempting to fly across the area and flew to meet them, a senior defense official said. The two U.S. F-22 fighter jets got within a mile of the Syrian SU-24 aircraft and the Syrian jets saw them, then turned and left the area, the official said.

The U.S. jets tried to contact the Syrian aircraft but there was no response, the official said. No weapons were fired but the presence of the coalition aircraft encouraged the Syrian aircraft to depart the airspace without incident, according to the official, who was not authorized the discuss the incident by name and spoke on condition of anonymity.

Syrian government forces have been bombing Kurdish-controlled portions of Hassakeh in recent days, and scores of residents have fled the city.

The additional U.S. combat air patrols will monitor the situation and provide assistance to coalition forces if needed, but are not enforcing any kind of no-fly zone, Davis said.

B.S.
All of a sudden we are scrambling jets to protect people who are trying to over throw a legitimate government and turn the whole place into another cesspool like Libya or any place else we have touched these last several years..

youtu.be...

Navy Capt. Jeff Davis said the U.S. has increased combat air patrols in that area and has warned Syria that America will defend coalition troops. He also said he believes this is the first time the U.S. has scrambled aircraft in response to an incident like this involving Syrian government bombings.

The Syrian military is mostly concerned with driving the insurgents back north from Allepo to where they came from, Turkey. Aleppo is a major cross roads from the north to the south, why its hotly contested right now.

In other words the coalition forces (NATO) are being driven ever northwards. The clamor in the main stream for the children and the Kurds (ahh, the humanity) is because the covert insurgency is losing and they are trying to drum support for another humanitarian intervention.

google map of Allepo

There is also a report of the US forces setting up a base in the North.

en.farsnews.com...

Imagine that, just roll up into someone else's country and set up a military base, then warn that countries military not to dare coming anywhere near it. One has to wonder just what the UN is playing at by seeming to ignore these ongoing breeches of International Law and national sovereignty?
I know..... International Law is what we beat others up with, while ignoring it ourselves because, well..... we're the good guys..... right?

This is because the US sticks it's ego up the world which in turn leads to war. Why haven't the US just retreat and let Assad take over? It's his country not the US

No doubt a dangerous situation which could escalate a war with Russia pretty quick. Just having our aircraft and theirs in such proximity while conducting combat operations is inherently dangerous. I don't think Syria or Russia plan to back down while legitimately defending the sovereign country of Syria from others. Realistically, if the people of the US decided to conduct regime change and route the federal government we would all be labeled terrorists. How the US thinks it is OK to do 'Regime Change' in other countries and at the same time complain when Russia does it in Ukraine is beyond hypocrisy and insane.

WELL that didn't take long,WHO launches first ?

a reply to: luciferslight

Democratic policies require it to happen.

a reply to: 727Sky

You can't simply carve a sovereign up because you want to and now is not the time for a discussion in the political disposition of Syria. Everytime something like this happens you set a precedent, that borders don't matter and yes this includes Crimea but the situations aren't equal Foreign Powers insinuated themselves without any real legal grounds. At least Russia had some legal justification. Besides the intent of US isn't to give the Kurds a homeland it's to establish bases as a counter weight to Russia and the two bases it will have in the country. By the way we will never leave Iraq or Afghanistan willingly ever.

a reply to: Britguy

My thoughts exactly.

I wonder if america would tolerate syrian jets flying over america and telling the U.S. air force where they can and can`t fly over their own country.
it seems pretty obvious that america and it`s allies have invaded syria.

Why is the US even there? The Syrian Government sure didn't ask them to come. Time to end the illegal air campaign over Syria and let Syria, Iran and Russia defeat the terrorists. They'd be doing the world a lot of favours

"but the presence of the coalition aircraft encouraged the Syrian aircraft to depart the airspace without incident,"

I bet it was more then the presence of coalition aircraft.
More likely it was the syrian aircraft getting lit up and locked on with aircraft fire control radar.

When locked on you tend the get underwear sucked up tight.

originally posted by: ANNED
"but the presence of the coalition aircraft encouraged the Syrian aircraft to depart the airspace without incident,"

I bet it was more then the presence of coalition aircraft.
More likely it was the syrian aircraft getting lit up and locked on with aircraft fire control radar.

When locked on you tend the get underwear sucked up tight.

Very true but the Syrian's were sending heavy bomb laden unescorted fighter bombers to do the bombing.. Next step if they want to escalate is send SU-?? fighters as high cover ... I would hate to see loss of life for any of our guys trying to do a mission they have been ordered to do... But if an F-22 got shot down it just might be a wake up call to the stupidity of the whole operation IMO. I personally am sick of our overseas interventions where we have absolutely no business.. and yet tomorrow is another day and there will be the same old crap.

a reply to: Britguy

Did President Obama draw another line in the Syrian sand?

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Britguy

Did President Obama draw another line in the Syrian sand?

No he quit drawing lines in the sand for environmental reasons.. Now he just says, "They're out there so you better be careful !"

One act of stupidity by either side and this could escalate rather quickly. One day humanity might just wake up to find the world is a very different place. Well those of us that are left anyways. I don't think the world has seen this much turmoil since the lead up to the previous world wars.

originally posted by: wantsome
One act of stupidity by either side and this could escalate rather quickly. One day humanity might just wake up to find the world is a very different place. Well those of us that are left anyways. I don't think the world has seen this much turmoil since the lead up to the previous world wars.

I agree and in my opinion the only thing that has stopped WW3 or four or five are nukes. No nukes or real weapons of mass destruction and no telling how many people and possibly even countries would have died in the resulting wars.

originally posted by: 727Sky


Very true but the Syrian's were sending heavy bomb laden unescorted fighter bombers to do the bombing.. Next step if they want to escalate is send SU-?? fighters as high cover ... I would hate to see loss of life for any of our guys trying to do a mission they have been ordered to do...

The problem is that the Syrians don't have any "Su-?? fighters". The best that they could muster are MiG-29 Fulcrums, MiG-25 Foxbats, MiG-23 Flogger and MiG-21 Fishbed. They really don't have a chance in hell and the Russians are not going to step in for them either. If Assad is emboldened by the thought of Russian support then all that is going to happen is that Syrian aircraft get shot down. Sadly this is the likely scenario that will happen if the Syrians continue to press on with the air strikes.

Erdogan has granted access to Russian to use Incirlik Airbase for their Syria operations .



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a reply to: 23432

No he hasn't...they are discussing it but nothing is final.

www.geopolmonitor.com...#

If necessary is what was said...that doesn't mean yes they can.

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: 23432

No he hasn't...they are discussing it but nothing is final.

www.geopolmonitor.com...#

If necessary is what was said...that doesn't mean yes they can.

You are technically correct , nothing is final , Biden's visit will clarify the issue about Gulen.

Incirlk has an exclusive Turkish section where Russian planes can operate from and technically speaking there is nothing anyone can say about that .