Wikileaks to DOJ: Precedent set with Hillary warrants all charges dropped against Assange'.

a reply to: uncommitted

Understood, I am not here to convince you of anything, merely share opinions, maybe speculate a bit, but mainly to come away with a greater knowledge of the subject discussed.

Cheers.

originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: uncommitted

Understood, I am not here to convince you of anything, merely share opinions, maybe speculate a bit, but mainly to come away with a greater knowledge of the subject discussed.

Cheers.

Then likewise, it's been a pleasure conversing with you.

Cheers

a reply to: uncommitted

I know he's a fellow country man of yours, I also think he's an attention seeking criminal turd, that's life.

If Assange is an attention seeking criminal turd for uncovering corruption, Then what is Hillary? She has never benefited anyone but herself, In fact half the people who deal with her seem to end up dead. Theres been alot of people throughout my life I have disagreed with, none of them have dropped dead yet.

Just face it Hillary is a mess. She is deteriorating mentally, physically and her humanity died a long time ago.

originally posted by: WanderingNomadd
a reply to: uncommitted

I know he's a fellow country man of yours, I also think he's an attention seeking criminal turd, that's life.

If Assange is an attention seeking criminal turd for uncovering corruption, Then what is Hillary? She has never benefited anyone but herself, In fact half the people who deal with her seem to end up dead. Theres been alot of people throughout my life I have disagreed with, none of them have dropped dead yet.

Just face it Hillary is a mess. She is deteriorating mentally, physically and her humanity died a long time ago.

You have an opinion? That's nice, so do all of us. Just for some level of reality, 100% of all people we all deal with will die. If you'd like to add actual facts to anything else rather than gossip, innuendo and outright lies, please, feel free.

Assange on the whole didn't uncover corruption, he uncovered embarrassing tittle tattle and information that could compromise countries based on the way wikileaks wished to leak it for maximum media coverage. There's a big difference.

yep, The obama DOJ set a disasterous precedence,it`s just a matter of time now before espionage and treason are legal in america.

Perhaps that was their intention?

Thank you Mr. Hussein Obama, and a joyous allah akbar to you too.

a reply to: uncommitted

Everyone dies, yes. Most people are not murdered for no reason though. Two people dying with similar affilations = Coincidence?, Three = Suspicious, 4+ = Somethings not right here. Funny how the media never mentions DNC activists and affilates being murdered? Since when was murdered members of a political party currently in a presidental election not news?

Listen Its obvious you wont be happy with anything other than her coming out with a major press release and admiting to her crimes. Something that will never happen. I on the other hand know we live in a world run by liars. When people are lying to me constantly, are hiding everything they do and providing zero transparency I have to take action to find out what is really going on. That becomes a matter of logic and common sense. One time an accident, Two times a coincidence, Three times suspicious, Four times and upwards they are laughing at us.

Hillarys corruption goes back with Bill over 20 years so I couldnt even begin to list the death, suffering and money scandals that follow the clintons in a tiny post.

These videos give a good insight into my personal views as to why I know Hillary and Bill are just evil. Do your own research on the facts presented in these videos and you will find out those presenting them are not liars.

Im not simple minded I can think for my self, I know Politicans are liars so anything they say is'nt to be taken seriously especially when regarding their own innocence, I also know the Media and Papers sold out a long time ago. That leaves Logic and common sense. No one applying both, without the influence of "Right vs Left" or "elections" or "patriotism", could
believe for a second she is innocent.

Innocent Until proven guilty is a great concept, neccessary in society. Unfourtunately the same laws and justice system does'nt apply to those in power, therefore It cannot be trusted. Only your own mind can. It is your responsibility to introduce your mind to all the facts and make an informed decision, Instead of waiting for some kind of mythical justice.

a reply to: watchitburn

Reminds me of

Cool Kids by Screeching Weasle

vimeo.com...

We are being lied to everyday by the people we pay to keep things running smoothly and justly.
Assange is publishing truths about the people we pay to lie to us.
His life is enclosed and full of fear. He obviously has a fair whack of altruism going on.
and he's an attention seeking turd???
WTF?

I do not know where people get these strange ideas from.

Assange is not a US citizen, he is not subject to US law, and can not be charged by the US unless he commits a crime while on US soil. He has not done that!

This whole US centric stupidity where they believe they can arrest anyone in the whole wide world is pure BS.

They can not.

People, this case shines a bright spot light on a world with one govt and this is why such a world is envisioned by those who want ultimate control. They can then stomp on everyone at any time.

I do not want to live in such a world.

Assange is assisting others to show the world the illegal activities carried out by Governments and multi-nationals.

He should be applauded by all decent people.

I am ashamed at my own govt for doing nothing to protect one of ours.

P

a reply to: WanderingNomadd
Speculation, hearsay, putting dots together desperately trying to make a picture out of them................... Need I go on? The body count video has been discussed ad nauseum on ATS and even most of those who rabidly hate her on here can't find anything to point at as evidence.

I was going to respond to the rest of your post but seeing as you went with the usual rubbish at the beginning, I'm not sure why I should be any less lazy.

The weird thing is, I'm not particularly a fan of Clinton, although I'm certainly no more a fan of Trump. I just can't be doing with people using gossip and poorly made youtube videos as facts that back up their own beliefs.

originally posted by: homerJ
We are being lied to everyday by the people we pay to keep things running smoothly and justly.
Assange is publishing truths about the people we pay to lie to us.
His life is enclosed and full of fear. He obviously has a fair whack of altruism going on.
and he's an attention seeking turd???
WTF?

Yes, attention seeking turd who courts notoriety and the gullible believe he is a modern day Robin Hood. What truths has he published that tell you what a) actually meant anything to you or b) exposed some level of corruption?

I've got all day.

a reply to: uncommitted

Lol ok. So instead of thinking critically you propose believing liars? It is'nt heresay or putting dots together desperately. The dots are easy to put together and the dots themselves are facts.

But instead of understanding a pathological liar with a suspicious past of criminal behaviour and poor human rights should not be president, People will want a confession first which they will never get.

Just let the future years tell you how wrong you are. Its a shame but people are'nt able to see the boot coming to their face, they only accept its there when it is crushing their head into the ground.

What truths has he published that tell you what a) actually meant anything to you or b) exposed some level of corruption?

a reply to: uncommitted

So your a troll then lol? The Bernie sanders rigging corruption springs to the forefront of my mind. Rigging elections is'nt a petty issue. Its a full frontal assualt on "democracy".

originally posted by: WanderingNomadd
a reply to: uncommitted

Lol ok. So instead of thinking critically you propose believing liars? It is'nt heresay or putting dots together desperately. The dots are easy to put together and the dots themselves are facts.

But instead of understanding a pathological liar with a suspicious past of criminal behaviour and poor human rights should not be president, People will want a confession first which they will never get.

Just let the future years tell you how wrong you are. Its a shame but people are'nt able to see the boot coming to their face, they only accept its there when it is crushing their head into the ground.

Why aren't you sticking to the point? This is about if Assange using stolen information, which through wikileaks he then made public - essentially dealing with and distributing stolen property is or is not criminal. Anything other than that is neither here nor there for the purpose of this thread.

Calling me a troll in your subsequent post is just childish because you don't agree with my opinion. If the Sanders vote was or wasn't rigged isn't something I believe has been proven - if there was a feeling in the DNC that Sanders wasn't their best choice isn't rigging, but again, you are talking about infighting in a political party - still not sure what you are using it as an example of. If you could show categorical evidence that the numbers voted for were manipulated to show Sanders not winning when in fact he did, then I'll take some notice, but I'm fairly sure if that is actual fact, it would be hard to avoid anywhere.

I personally wouldn't trust Assange with anything, but then I'm not stupid enough to.

a reply to: uncommitted

Calling me a troll in your subsequent post is just childish because you don't agree with my opinion.

Stop twisting the truth. I called you a troll because you said Assange and Wikileaks did'nt reveal anything of consequence. Election fraud is of serious consequence. What you said isnt an opinion its a lie.

This is about if Assange using stolen information, which through wikileaks he then made public - essentially dealing with and distributing stolen property is or is not criminal.

Is it criminal to steal food if your starving? Yes, Is it wrong? No; Is it criminal to mointer everyones private information? Yes, Does the NSA do it anyway? Yes, Do they go to prison? No; Is it criminal to expose classified information to third partys? Yes, Is it wrong to reveal corruption in corrupt governments? No.

I lost faith in the legal system around the time I grew up and realised it does'nt apply to the rich and to those in power. Much better to work on a system of right and wrong.

“If you're honest, you sooner or later have to confront your values. Then you're forced to separate what is right from what is merely legal. This puts you metaphysically on the run. America is full of metaphysical outlaws.”

“If privacy is outlawed, only outlaws will have privacy.”

"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so."

You keep your faith in the system, Ill keep my faith in logic and freedom. Agree to Disagree.

a reply to: uncommitted
surely there's people out there far more deserving of your ire? Se
ems weird that you'd be so pi$$ed at a bloke like Assange?
The truth is the truth. Sure he gets to play god a little with the timing... But I would too.
Would you really prefer a world where you're kept even more in the dark?
We need people like Assange, Snowden, et all.
I encourage everyone to blow the whistle when necessary. I trust you. Namaste.

a reply to: WanderingNomadd

The only embarrassing thing is someone starred your post. Please show evidence that the results of an election were clearly and demonstrably rigged. Even that in itself isn't a state issue - it's not an issue affecting you as an human being unless you voted for Sanders as a member of the DNC and your preferred choice was denied the win and your vote was effectively voided as you voted it.

The rest of your post is your opinion on why Assange is right to commit a crime - that's your opinion, don't try and dress it as anything else.

originally posted by: homerJ
a reply to: uncommitted
surely there's people out there far more deserving of your ire? Se
ems weird that you'd be so pi$$ed at a bloke like Assange?
The truth is the truth. Sure he gets to play god a little with the timing... But I would too.

Would you really prefer a world where you're kept even more in the dark?
We need people like Assange, Snowden, et all.
I encourage everyone to blow the whistle when necessary. I trust you. Namaste.

Well, the thread is about Assange, mentioning anyone else would be thread drift? Whistle blowers or publicity seeking blowhards - there's a difference IMHO.

a reply to: uncommitted

Carry on defending people who lie and manipulate you on a daily basis thats your choice.

Aslong as Assange is releasing information exposing corruption he is more of a friend to me than any government or politician is. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

The only embarrassing thing is someone starred your post. Please show evidence that the results of an election were clearly and demonstrably rigged. Even that in itself isn't a state issue - it's not an issue affecting you as an human being unless you voted for Sanders as a member of the DNC and your preferred choice was denied the win and your vote was effectively voided as you voted it.

The only embarassing thing here is you are so brainwashed you can't even recognise election fraud. Peoples right to choose who is president was taken from them. Their money was stolen from them, Donating to a politican whose own party was sabotaging him to ensure another candidate won. The emails showed are unified effort to prevent bernie from winning, ensuring the many many people who wanted him were denied their right to choose. NOT the DNC's right to choose candidates, the PEOPLES.

My opinion sits nicely with historical leaders so I feel more comfortable there than with someone like you who watches MSM

Keep drinking that Kool-Aid.

a reply to: WanderingNomadd

Last time I'm going to bother replying to you. You've been here all of three days so well done for being such an expert.

This thread is about did Hilary Clinton commit the same activity as Julian Assange - no more, no less. Your feelings about Clinton are obvious - I personally don't care what you think. You have also shown no evidence that a vote was 'rigged' in that votes cast for Sanders were in some way voided to allow Clinton to win - that's what would be a rigged election. What you have alluded to is a preference in some parts of the DNC for Clinton to be the nominee............... so? We know a lot of movement went on in the GOP - what's your point? I notice again though, no evidence that the election was 'rigged' in that votes were voided for Sanders to allow Clinton the win. Did that happen? I've no idea, you said it did - put up or shut up.

Phrases like 'watching the MSM' (I live in the UK, I don't watch any American news, but even then, if you think a site like ATS is unbiased................ well, you won't be thinking that for too long.) and 'Keep drinking the Kool-aid' are kind of ancient, but welcome to ATS, if you stop trying to act like you for some reason have some innate superiority, you may enjoy it. Then again, 90% of ATS who care about American politics seem to like Trump so you probably fit right in.