Poll Shows Young Voters Rejecting Trump at Record Rate

originally posted by: Nikola014
a reply to: dukeofjive696969

"I don't support Hillary..." Sure you don't

Why do you guys have a need to post daily poll results telling us Trump is behind? What's the point? You are not going to make anyone vote for your cult leader, but you will just make some people actually vote for him, because of the enormous propaganda going on against him.

I still do not support Hillary, and its a free world where we can share our opinions on daily news.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: DelMarvel

Not all the polls during the primaries had Trump winning the nomination.

The polls during the primaries were actually pretty accurate.

LINK.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: MrSpad

Nobody has ever won the presidency based solely on the voters' levels of hatred against their opponent. Look at how that worked out for John Kerry in 2004 and McCain in 08 and Romney in 12.

Well more people are voting for Trump to keep Clinton out than the other way around. Clinton actually has a higher percentage of their own voters that like her than Trump does. Neither of them would stand a chance against a normal candidate.

a reply to: Bone75

Over 200 million eligible voting Americans and polls usually consist of around 500-2000 people. You have a higher chance of being struck by lightning than you do being polled by the MSM. Also, do you still have a landline? I sure don't.

a reply to: DelMarvel

LMAO! The accuracy went up with the fewer polls conducted. That's so counter productive to traditional polling science it's ridiculous.

Also, Fivethrtyeight's Nate Silver spent MONTHS hammering at how slim Trump's chances of winning the nomination were. How in the blue hell can his sit's polls be heralded as accurate while the analysis of those polls by their site founder and supposed expert analyst be so wrong?

Again, it's BS. The media has a narrative to pedal and defend and they will stop at nothing to keep their chokehold on that narrative, including propagandizing their polls. It isn't a right wing or left wing conspiracy, it's a globalist one... and the American media is nothing if not globalist.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Well, what about exit polls used to determine the winner before the votes are counted?

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: Bone75

Over 200 million eligible voting Americans and polls usually consist of around 500-2000 people. You have a higher chance of being struck by lightning than you do being polled by the MSM. Also, do you still have a landline? I sure don't.

And yet the polls continue a decades long record of fairly high accuracy.

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: MrSpad

Trump, if I remember correctly, was dead last with the youth vote during the primaries so it's no wonder he continues to lose by YUGE margins!

He's winning at losing!

The GOP skews much older. Their is no real youth vote in the GOP primary. They tend to be independents or DNC. It is the general election where they make a difference. And where they are as likely to vote GOP as they are DNC.

a reply to: Swills

Like the exit polls that indicated John Kerry would win on Election Day 2004? Or do you mean the ones that showed Scott Walker losing a recall election in 2012 in Wisconsin? Perhaps you mean something more recent, like the California exit polls that showed Sanders was within margin of error distance from Clinton when, in fact, the actual voting process gave her a 13% victory?

originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: MrSpad

Yet he still pulls in crowds by the thousands while Hillary draws +/- 150.

So does Kid Rock, Jimmy Buffet and Rob Paul. Nothing has ever been decided by a crowd of your own supporters. You have ad to your base with Trump has not done. And Clinton has.

You are all the same people that said he would never be nominated....those are some fun threads to read. These will be equally fun in November.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: DelMarvel

LMAO! The accuracy went up with the fewer polls conducted. That's so counter productive to traditional polling science it's ridiculous.

Also, Fivethrtyeight's Nate Silver spent MONTHS hammering at how slim Trump's chances of winning the nomination were. How in the blue hell can his sit's polls be heralded as accurate while the analysis of those polls by their site founder and supposed expert analyst be so wrong?

Again, it's BS. The media has a narrative to pedal and defend and they will stop at nothing to keep their chokehold on that narrative, including propagandizing their polls. It isn't a right wing or left wing conspiracy, it's a globalist one... and the American media is nothing if not globalist.

What about Breitbart? Their narrative is Trump is great. And yet when they polled to show how the media was distorting their polls, they came out the same way. How about Trumps own internal polls? Are they also part of narrative? Trump used to parade his poll numbers around on stage and in front of the media. Why were they OK then but, skewed now? If the polls are not right why is the GOP freaking out? Why is Trump trying to reboot his campaign again? Why does keep talking about losing now? It is not like this race is even close at this point. Their is no margin of error that large.

a reply to: MrSpad

Wait, reread that to yourself...

There a step or two missing in the logic you're using. " You have ad to your base with Trump has not done. And Clinton has" Hillary's revivals are drawing an average of 1/5th the number of supporters as Trump. Even if she's "adding to her base," her base would appear to be well beneath Mr. Trump's base at these rallies. This doesn't even factor in the numerous reports of local fire marshals restricting crowd size at Trump's rallies, leaving more thousands outside the venues. Also let's look at *Who* Hillary is adding...

The famous letter against Trump signed by 50 Republican intel officials... Hillary has the full support of the people responsible for the Patriot Act, the world bank, TARP, TSA naked body scanners, etc. Ohhh, these peoples' support of Hillary will impress absolutely nobody who doesn't make their living off of the federal security monsters' teats

The Koch Brothers have announced a favoribility to Clinton. Ooooh!!! Ooooh!!! Aren't these the two who the Dems spent the last 8 years portraying as walking embodiments of Satan? How is their supporting Clinton going to be received by the sheep that bought into how evil they were the past decade?

A homophobic Islamic terrorists homophobic Islamic terrorist supporter's father. WOW! She's capturing that much sought after Jihadist and Stockholm Syndrome voter demographic here, that's for sure.

Hillary's "base" isn't something anyone with half a brain would build a structure on. I'd rather have a small stone base that can support vertical construction than a large sand base that will erode before the first floor is even completed anyday.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: DelMarvel



Also, Fivethrtyeight's Nate Silver spent MONTHS hammering at how slim Trump's chances of winning the nomination were. How in the blue hell can his sit's polls be heralded as accurate while the analysis of those polls by their site founder and supposed expert analyst be so wrong?

Nate Silver's "pure" polling data predicted Trump would win the nomination.
projects.fivethirtyeight.com...

His issue, as he openly admits in hindsight, was interjecting analysis or punditry on top of that data...because he just couldn't believe that the GOP would nominate a man like Trump.

The life lesson is never bet that the GOP will behave sanely.

As for the current polling data, it is what it is, data...you can claim it is propaganda if it helps you get through the night.

a reply to: MrSpad

Breitbart has been part of the media controlled narrative since Andrew Breitbart died under curious circumstances days before he was to release information seriously damaging to Obama. That information release was held back, cleaned up to be much less damaging, and then released by Mike Flynn, who plays by the rules and defends the narrative.

Trump's recent strategy, I believe has been to maintain a lower profile until the month before the election. His poll numbers spike when he unveils portions of his platform and makes impassioned speeches, they dip when he's trying to fill time but staying in the public eye... solution is to reduce the time fillers and hold back some of the passion until right before the election.

Also, him being behind in the polls is good marketing for him. His supporters LOATHE Hillary Clinton, so the risk of her winning lights a fire under us. Plus America loves the underdog.

Polls are polls but the guys that make their living on picking winners...it might be prudent to pay attention to the bookies.

www.paddypower.com...

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: MrSpad

Wait, reread that to yourself...

There a step or two missing in the logic you're using. " You have ad to your base with Trump has not done. And Clinton has" Hillary's revivals are drawing an average of 1/5th the number of supporters as Trump.

General elections are not won depending on how many people show up at an "event" hoping a candidate will say crazy sh*&.

Hillary Clinton could go on vacation until November and still win against Trump.

You can't honestly be aping the Trump nonsense about ...Look at "MY Crowds"???

This doesn't even factor in the numerous reports of local fire marshals restricting crowd size at Trump's rallies, leaving more thousands outside the venues.

Wow...No Fire Marshalls are not part of grand conspiracy to defeat Trump by limiting his Rally sizes, despite what Trump has been twiddling on about.

The Koch Brothers have announced a favoribility to Clinton. Ooooh!!! Ooooh!!! Aren't these the two who the Dems spent the last 8 years portraying as walking embodiments of Satan? How is their supporting Clinton going to be received by the sheep that bought into how evil they were the past decade?

Yes..what does that tell you when your candidate is so distasteful that it unites the left with the GOP plus Koch Brothers?


Kind of like a hypothetical alien invasion where all the former enemy nations unite to defeat an orange menace creature.

A homophobic Islamic terrorists homophobic Islamic terrorist supporter's father. WOW! She's capturing that much sought after Jihadist and Stockholm Syndrome voter demographic here, that's for sure.

Not sure what you are saying at all..

Hillary's "base" isn't something anyone with half a brain would build a structure on. I'd rather have a small stone base that can support vertical construction than a large sand base that will erode before the first floor is even completed anyday.

I'd rather have a base that all agrees a 3rd world wannabe tyrant, hateful, bigoted, megalomaniac who neither understands nor has any respect for the constitution has no business in the most powerful office in the world. He is not fit to run a McDonalds..

Beyond all odds...Trump actually united large swaths of the GOP with Democrats, Koch Brothers and all..everyone can return to their disagreements once the danger of the orange menace is over.

Aren't the same guys that do the unemployment numbers the ones that do the polls ????

We'll find out soon enough who is right about the polling. Anything could happen, I suppose. Though, of course, I'm sure some will claim the election was fixed if Trump loses.

Just looking at another example, almost all the polls show Trump with a massive deficit among college educated women. Which one would expect. That's a demographic a Republican needs to do well with to win and it's difficult to imagine what Trump could do to turn around his reputation in just a couple of months.

But we'll see.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Yup, those polls and not all of them are going to be correct but that's to be expected because statistics. How many exit polls were correct this past primary versus ones that were incorrect?

So yes, at the end of the day the counted votes are all that matters but do they even matter? If we're just gonna throw out conspiracies about Trump losing this election then shouldn't Trump and his supporters be very worried about the Electoral College?

Poor Trump. First the MSM is against him, then the polls, soon he'll have to worry about voter fraud and the final boss is the Electoral College! Seems to me, Trump is screwed!