Mandela Effect - Kidney Proof - Internal Organs Changed Position

a reply to: Char-Lee

Is that what this is all about? Those who don't see the changes don't feel "special" feel left out? So they have to pretend it is nonsense?

Yep that's it...doctors studying this and not seeing the ME don't feel special, people who have some common sense don't feel special, because they don't need to unlike those trying to push this ME bs.

And it is nonsense...or can you show a scientific study that back the claim that it isn't nonsense?

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h


Now it's a marketing thing especially for the women who made it all happen...she has some nice ME, and Barenstain shirts for those interested.

You mean there's money to be made here?

I might have to rethink my stance.

You do know that they do not play that on the radio right? That the live 1985 version, they don't play that on the radio unless they are playing old albums. If you listen can barely hear them at the end over the crowd. It's not the one they play on the radio, period. So that assumption would be wrong.

a reply to: TISTBOTE

Earlier I pointed out that the Revenge of the Nerds scene cuts the song off at the spot where people tend to remember, right after Freddie says, "Of the world.."

I think it's quite likely that radio stations commonly did a fade out in the same place. At the album Rock station here in my town (which is the oldest album rock station in the country), they always played the entire "We Will Rock You/We are the Champions Medley." That's a five minute song, and it would not have been unusual to start the fade out after the last "complete" chorus, at around the 4:25 mark.

Many years ago, I worked as a DJ. I never worked at an album rock station (so I never played this particular song), but regardless of genre, it's not unusual for the DJ to time music so it ends at a specific time, so they can hit a commercial break or join a satellite feed (like top of the hour news, or what have you). Also, some program directors have standing orders regarding particular songs, like "fade that out quickly after the last full verse and bring in the next song hot."

So that is one particular explanation.

Also (and this is VERY important, so listen up) the version of the single that radio stations get is not always the same version on the album. The air-play version is OFTEN SHORTER, because shorter songs get played more often. Cutting out that last verse would have been a great way to make the song shorter.

Also, keep in mind that "of the world" literally finishes every other chorus in that song, so there is a natural human tendency to expect it there in the last chorus.

Consider that was PROBABLY Queen's intent in ending the song the way they did, to leave the listener with the lingering feeling that it wasn't finished. This is hardly the only song that uses this technique, but perhaps they did a bit too good of a job.

But what blows my mind is that people are willing to disregard all of the above possibilities (plus all the evidence of faulty memory) and go straight to, "I think the most likely explanation is that we've jumped timelines."

It's a little goofy.

a reply to: noonebutme

Wait a minute I'm sure my avatar didn't have such a manly man in but today it has.....The Mandella effect is real!!.

a reply to: TheKnightofDoom

Wait a minute. I never posted in this thread! I remember 100% that I didn't.

The only explanation is a Timeshift through the black holes CERN created under guidance from their Reptiloid overlords.

That is the only logical and rational answer. Please, don't even DARE to suggest my memory is at fault because I know for fact (ie: my opinion) that TRILLIONS of people around the world agree with me.

So... #Evidenced

originally posted by: Greggers

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h


Now it's a marketing thing especially for the women who made it all happen...she has some nice ME, and Barenstain shirts for those interested.

You mean there's money to be made here?

I might have to rethink my stance.

Wait me to thinking hats and t shirts. Oh even better I could branch out into other things as well like an ap for the phone so people can record things and see if they change. Hmmmmm also bet I could convince people this is real and start a foundation for research. Maybe I've been looking at this the wrong way. Please donate to the dimensional research fund. Just need a catch phrase.

Why don't you folks just make a thread to make fun of the Mandela Effect?

I certainly didn't make this thread for 30 pages of joking around.

originally posted by: Pearj
Why don't you folks just make a thread to make fun of the Mandela Effect?

I certainly didn't make this thread for 30 pages of joking around.

Why don't you guys actually contribute something to this thread other than complaints about your detractors?

For the record, the vast majority of this thread is not "joking around."

a reply to: Pearj

Science based discussion is not welcome here?

a reply to: Pearj

Why don't you folks just make a thread to make fun of the Mandela Effect?

Already done.

A few have popped up in the last week or so.

Check the Jokes forum, you might enjoy the threads

originally posted by: dannnodot
You can see the purpose they are trying to achieve is to stop anyone else from discussing it. They claim to be interested in discussing it when they really just want to be total dicks and belittle anyone else. If you are reading this and asking, "he's not talking about me is he? ". If you posted any of the BS in the last 15 pages regarding ME not existing then yes, YOU! You posted total bull#, if you don't believe in it that is fine. You have expressed your opinion, now please get the f**k out and let the adults have a discussion.

It can only be because they are shills, I can't imagine anyone stupid/retarded/ignorant enough to do this otherwise. I suppose there are people out there who are that childish???

I posted actual FACTS, and some very lengthy posts explaining/supporting my position.

I posted:

1) Documented research on the fallibility of human memory
2) Complete, logical A to Z arguments explaining why memory (poor initial decoding or altered memories) are a far more likely explanation than "shifting timelines."
3) I pointed out, correctly, that quantum physics currently falls within the paradigm established by Neils Bohr many decades ago and does not prove -- at present -- the existence of alternate universes
4) I posted several examples of pop culture references likely to have influenced the memories of large numbers of people
5) I pointed out that ME "memories" involve superficial (and therefore easily forgettable) trivia rather than information one relies on to function.
6) I pointed out the lack of any scientific methodology in even verifying how prevalent these ME memories are and what, precisely, they involve -- sharing stories on the internet is a terrible way of vetting such stories, as it creates cross contamination.
7) I even gave a rather lengthy explanation (and a quite logical one) regarding your Queen anomaly.


I could go on. But be honest. The reason you're accusing me of posting BS is because you don't like having your claims challenged.

As far as not wanting people to discuss it, that's absurd. You are free to discuss it. I wish you would. You seem far more interested in discussing US.

Carry on with your insults though.

P.S.

Seriously, do you honestly believe people are paying us to derail this thread? Or that the arguments you're making are somehow vastly more intelligent than the ones I'm making?

Great! You have expressed you opinion.. You think we are dumb and you don't believe in ME.. Wonderful!

Now can you leave and let adults discuss it?

originally posted by: dannnodot
Great! You have expressed you opinion.. You think we are dumb and you don't believe in ME.. Wonderful!

Now can you leave and let adults discuss it?

I never said I think you're dumb.

I am, however, interested in challenging the veracity of these particular arguments. You, of course, are free to ignore me, or to respond as you wish. I don't complain to mods, but you should know several of your posts are absolutely violating the TOS, in case someone else chooses to report you. Name calling is not allowed.

The same goes for the other people calling names, just to be fair.

However, you should be aware that telling people on the internet to "go away" isn't a very effective way of making them do so. Why not just respond to my actual arguments instead of calling me names and telling me to go away?

a reply to: dannnodot

Adults are that is why those who believe this are crying about it.

Let us not forget what the motto here is...

Deny Ignorance.

Tell you what though if you can present an actual scientific study done that shows the ME is actually real then you might have something...but since that hasn't happened you can't cry about something coined in 2010 by a kook named Fiona Broome.

And yes I don't believe it is real and will deny ignorance as long as it has a life on ATS.

Or until you or the OP can provide said scientific studies about it.

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: dannnodot

Adults are that is why those who believe this are crying about it.

Let us not forget what the motto here is...

Deny Ignorance.

Tell you what though if you can present an actual scientific study done that shows the ME is actually real then you might have something...but since that hasn't happened you can't cry about something coined in 2010 by a kook named Fiona Broome.

And yes I don't believe it is real and will deny ignorance as long as it has a life on ATS.

Or until you or the OP can provide said scientific studies about it.

Heck, I don't even need them to show me proof. I think it's healthy and fun to discuss outlandish possibilities with marginal empirical evidence, but this appears to have NO empirical evidence -- and even that would be fine, if we could simply get them to acknowledge that faulty memory or other empirically measurable possibilities were more likely based on what we know currently of the physical world and human psychology.

Or if they were interested in discussing what would need to be done to gather REAL evidence of what they are talking about -- which could actually be an interesting discussion.

Unfortunately, most of these threads go like this:

ME Believer: Hey guys, how about that Star Wars quote?
ME Detractor: It doesn't impress me, and here's why: ::list of facts on the fallibility of memory and pop culture references likely to have caused mix-ups::
ME Believer: You suck.

Come on guys. You can put up a better fight than this, can't you?

a reply to: dannnodot

You can see the purpose they are trying to achieve is to stop anyone else from discussing it. They claim to be interested in discussing it when they really just want to be total dicks and belittle anyone else.

So "they" want to stop people from discussing it by discussing it?

Its like trying to help a person from drowning by holding their head under water.

Belittling?

You mean like these comments you make just on this page not counting the numerous other posts you made in this thread

It can only be because they are shills, I can't imagine anyone stupid/retarded/ignorant enough to do this otherwise. I suppose there are people out there who are that childish???

Now can you leave and let adults discuss it?

Adults?

now please get the f**k out and let the adults have a discussion.

Adults can usually express themselves without the need for vulgar language.

Considering this, you do make point when you say there are people out there who are childish.

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Skeptical analysis and fact checking is certainly a cornerstone in the art of "Denying Ignorance", however, as the wonderful Mr. Einstein once said, "Imagination is more important than knowledge." The true denial of ignorance must also include and often embrace even the most fanciful exaggerations of possibilities in order to understand and explore the upper limits of what might be possible.


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a reply to: Greggers

READ the forum rules, you are all equal to hecklers at a private ceremony!
These are wonderful words by Einstein quoted by SkepticOverlord!
" "Imagination is more important than knowledge." The true denial of ignorance must also include and often embrace even the most fanciful exaggerations of possibilities in order to understand and explore the upper limits of what might be possible.
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