Mandela Effect - Kidney Proof - Internal Organs Changed Position

originally posted by: Sahabi
a reply to: Pearj

Back in the early 90's, our biology teacher specifically addressed the common misconceptions of organ location, such as a "left-sided" heart and "centered" stomach.

It does seem like a bit of a strange misconception though, people have been butchering each other for thousands of years, you'd think we'd have a pretty clear concept of where the heart is located.

I guess the main reason I find the heart thing so strange is that I used to have this trick where I could slow down and speed up my hear rate on demand. People didn't actually believe me, so I'd have them place their hand over my hear to prove it, and I clearly remember always having them place it over the left side of my chest. I'm trying to feel the position of my heartbeat now and it does seem like I can only feel it closer to the center which I find some what disturbing.

So there is no timeline shift, there are just a few select people who have migrated over to OUR timeline, because how else would you explain those of us who find this ridiculous? Did we slip into yours and bring out new fangled books and charts with us? Suddenly changing or history without any one of us ever going "Golly that was weird, I wonder what that was?!"

The entire premise of this is faulty and illogical.

And if it was in fact the case, where are your alternatives, or ours for that matter? Or were we two separate timelines that merged and none of us notice anything more than easily debunked myths?

As far as i remember all the organs are still in the right place, unless your deformed at birth then it's a different story.

The whole reason i even believe in the ME is because i KNOW the pineal gland was in the front of the head between left and right hemispheres, now it is not.

originally posted by: Vortiki
The whole reason i even believe in the ME is because i KNOW the pineal gland was in the front of the head between left and right hemispheres, now it is not.

How exactly did you "know" ?

Are you a neurologist, maybe a brain surgeon?

originally posted by: superman2012

originally posted by: FaunaOrFlora
a reply to: Pearj

My fiance died of kidney cancer back in 1999. He had a scar at the small of his back from where they took one out.

Definitely NOT up under the ribs.

When I had my gall bladder removed they made four incisions, the furthest one away was on my lower right side. I don't have his medical records but maybe there was a reason for that?

This, the appendix is on the right side, when they removed mine, they went in on the left.

a reply to: InhaleExhale

When you see the same thing so many times it tends to stick with you. More so when it is something you have interest in.

Just no.
If you are not at all trained in the medical field Ï can see how you can be mistaken.
But sorry no those things have been there all the time.

a reply to: Pearj

And this is why, like another poster have said, somebody who have actually gone to university for years to study a medical science would never say: "the kidneys have moved"! Because the kidneys have not move, only you have no idea of what you are talking about.

The kidneys are located in the upper back, commonly known as 'the small of the back'.
The small of the back is (and has always been) where the spine curves at waist level where the lumbar vertebrae is.
This is an xray showing where the kidnes are and where the small of the back is:




This is a diagram showing the kidneys position (notice the gluteus and the area commonly called small of the back). It's in Italian, so I have circled in red 'rene' which is kidneys.



You only have proof of you lack of medical knowledge. The anatomy is still the same.

a reply to: Vortiki

When you see the same thing so many times it tends to stick with you.

Well going by this one must assume you are a brain surgeon to have "seen" the pineal gland so many times or some sick mass murdered who enjoys cutting people heads open

More so when it is something you have interest in.

Actually if you have an interest in something you usually tend to have a better attention when learning about the things you find interest in, seeing something over and over means you have eyes and are stuck in some sort loop.

So....

again, how do you "know"?

a reply to: TheKnightofDoom

Well you arent a medicle professional either, so how do you know?

Because someone told you so? You have never witnessed a pineal gland within someones brain other than in diagrams, nor have i. So your "facts" are no more personably verifiable than mine.

Besides, it is nearly impossible to experiment and test for mandela effect, so even if it is a real thing i have no way to show you something that no longer exists. So your arguing about how wrong ppl are is a moot point.

a reply to: InhaleExhale

Ive seen diagrams, videos, ect. Naturally what i have seen doesnt constitute as "evidence" or "proof" to you, so our continuing this discussion is pointless.

a reply to: Vortiki

I'm a trainee nurse now bit ï already have done enough medical courses through work to know where stuff is and it has not changed.
Why can you not accept you are mistaken.

a reply to: TheKnightofDoom

Imagine going to work everyday for 20 years. Every morning you wake up and put a red apple in your lunch. On the first day of the 21st year of doing this everyday, the apple is now blue instead of red, but everyone insists they have always been blue.

This is why i know what i remember is not wrong, merely changed. How can anyone prove otherwise? It is impossible. Just because it sounds unrealistic doesnt mean it isnt real.

Nice thread op. I can corroborate all the internal organ differences you report. I must say it feels weird eating a meal and feeling it deposit just below my chest and on the left side too. Then you have the gastrointestinal bloating and other issues of this body (though that could be my body/gut flora attempting to 'calibrate' to the changes). Then you have genital issues - or at least issues vs what I'm used to (which I won't go into unless someone wants to PM me).

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

I guess the main reason I find the heart thing so strange is that I used to have this trick where I could slow down and speed up my hear rate on demand. People didn't actually believe me, so I'd have them place their hand over my hear to prove it, and I clearly remember always having them place it over the left side of my chest. I'm trying to feel the position of my heartbeat now and it does seem like I can only feel it closer to the center which I find some what disturbing.

Same here, I used to be able to feel it on the left side putting my hand over the nipple, now I have to hunch over and feel between a particular rib to actually feel it beat. I don't feel it in the center either.

Btw, you are the second person today who I saw mentioning this exact same thing.

a reply to: Agartha

If you think that people need a lesson on anatomy you still don't get the subject you love to hate so much.

I think people are aware of how the anatomy is supposed to be in this reality, otherwise they would not be saying that something has changed for them........

originally posted by: TheMaxHeadroomIncident
a reply to: Agartha

If you think that people need a lesson on anatomy you still don't get the subject you love to hate so much.

I think people are aware of how the anatomy is supposed to be in this reality, otherwise they would not be saying that something has changed for them........

Yeah. Because the Mandela effect people just "know" and have a "feeling" that somethings "wrong".

I just love these threads. People who can't bring themselves to admit they were wrong, looking for confirmation bias from other people who won't admit they're wrong lol. Yet it's the "disbelievers" who are wrong lol.

The irony is just too much!

a reply to: TheKnightofDoom

I'm a trainee nurse now bit ï already have done enough medical courses through work to know where stuff is and it has not changed. Why can you not accept you are mistaken.

Jeez Florence, we already know stuff has not changed from the perspective of your reality. Why can't you even grasp what you are discussing here?

originally posted by: TheMaxHeadroomIncident
If you think that people need a lesson on anatomy you still don't get the subject you love to hate so much.

I think people are aware of how the anatomy is supposed to be in this reality, otherwise they would not be saying that something has changed for them........

LOL the OP said the kidneys were in the small of the back...... and I have shown they still are.
Same in both 'realities' I guess.