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My thoughts on these "interestingt" times.

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posted on Aug, 15 2016 @ 07:52 AM
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I'll start by addressing some of my personal biases. Firstly I'm more than a bit paranoid. I'm also an information/news junky, which tends to skew my thoughts a bit.

While I've been around long enough to know that there's always someone shouting that the sky is falling, I have to admit that this time it feels different. I'm privately of the opinion that WWIII started last year and we're just now starting to realize it. I suspect conflict is only going to spread and intensify.

The Western World is headed for a major change. To wit: globalization is on trial, and right now it doesn't look good. Our entire social and economic structure has for centuries been based on some degree of global interconnectivity. We may be moving away from that, and I don't know what will come in its wake.

These are just my early morning thoughts. I welcome input from the assembled.



posted on Aug, 15 2016 @ 08:00 AM
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a reply to: ParadigmMind

The UN's Agenda 21 is a concern, the state of affairs in America and EU are rapidly spiraling out of control. Some of it may be manufactured to create fear and encourage citizens to vote away more of their own rights.

I agree, the world seems to be turning a very sharp corner..



posted on Aug, 15 2016 @ 08:00 AM
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a reply to: ParadigmMind
I think many like myself are waiting for The Event that the globalists will use to implement their agenda.

The people are waking up and that can NOT be allowed.



posted on Aug, 15 2016 @ 09:09 AM
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a reply to: ParadigmMind

I have to agree with you that this time has a different "feel" to it and it does seem that things are unraveling on many different fronts.

You say you're a news junkie.......I'm an economics junkie and can tell you that the Euro zone is really fragile right now and its entirely possible we will see something of a cascading bank failure event that will push Europe into a severe recession if not a deflationary depression.

I don't have the feeling that a major war is in the offing. That wouldn't seem to be in anyone's interest. Russia can get or take whatever it wants............really, who cares and I get the impression they're only interested in securing their borders and their Black Sea access.

The social/cultural scene in the US is a disastrous mess, and I'd expect to see that worsen over the course of the next 4 years regardless who they install into the White Hut. Those social problems combined with flagging retail sales and flagging consumer confidence will see the US go into a recession around 2018/2019.

So yea.....I agree; things are getting iffy.



posted on Aug, 15 2016 @ 09:24 AM
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Maybe WWIII is/will be actually more of a religious war versus political war.



posted on Aug, 15 2016 @ 09:39 AM
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If what the MSM puts out as news to truth is any indication then I am not worried about WW111 happening .You may be right about it already starting awhile back though . The MSM is trying but the threads are frayed and disconnected far from reality on the ground . The failed coup in Turkey should be a eye opener as to the reality being more of a manufactured propaganda piece then anything close to reality .

The Washington/Pentagon/CIA/NSA/NATO narratives are so weak that they are becoming redundant .Still a bit dangerous but too week to set the world on fire .China is going to be the biggest stabilizing factor as they will have a system that others can get on board with when the Wests finally greets their chickens coming home to roost .

It will be a big shock to those that have a lot to loose but for us smaller actors we can only loose a little and refocus our new system what ever that system might be .We bailed out the Banks the last time so maybe we will Jail the banks the next time . fool me once shame on you , fool me twice shame on me ....the politicians and the movers and shakers know this . MSM will have lost its magic to convince us of much as we will have no reason to listen to their talking heads . be safe and fear not .


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posted on Aug, 15 2016 @ 09:40 AM
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I have to agree. There's some very interesting things happening outside of the fake media.

This election in particular in unprecedented in many ways. Many GOOD ways. And that's a direct sign of growing consciousness.

Never before has an outsider, a non-groomed candidate made it to a major party nomination. The Republican party nonetheless. The establishment despises Trump, yet they can't stop him.

People aren't buying the Clinton nonsense and are being quite vocal about it.

The leaked emails, the corruption, the DNC cheating. Never before has this been presented so openly by whistleblowers. And that's refreshing.

Many other aspects of awakening are showing, this is just the political side of things.


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posted on Aug, 15 2016 @ 10:55 AM
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The leaked emails, the corruption, the DNC cheating. Never before has this been presented so openly by whistleblowers.


And dismissed or ignored by so many. The Democrats/Liberals brush away any evidence against Clinton and the Dems as just Republican stunts or Russian [ gasp! there's those conveniently e -vil Russians again ] hacking. And the odd part is...they overlook the evil in their own party, to point the finger at Russia. Never mind the clear evidence of corruption in those e mails, let's focus on how they became public. Let's ignore the mass corruption in the Democratic party and instead, focus on those bad, bad Russians for revealing it.



posted on Aug, 15 2016 @ 11:45 AM
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originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: AgarthaSeed




The leaked emails, the corruption, the DNC cheating. Never before has this been presented so openly by whistleblowers.


And dismissed or ignored by so many. The Democrats/Liberals brush away any evidence against Clinton and the Dems as just Republican stunts or Russian [ gasp! there's those conveniently e -vil Russians again ] hacking. And the odd part is...they overlook the evil in their own party, to point the finger at Russia. Never mind the clear evidence of corruption in those e mails, let's focus on how they became public. Let's ignore the mass corruption in the Democratic party and instead, focus on those bad, bad Russians for revealing it.


Exactly. And in all fairness, Russia have kept their hands to themselves pretty well considering how much this upcoming election will affect them.

I'm sure there's gonna be naysayers about this, but the U.S. is dead wrong here. We're playing all sorts of games around their perimeter, trying to drum up NATO support amongst their neighbors and they've remained calm.

So naturally, the U.S. continues to bully them and now use them as a scapegoat to blame our own political disasters on.

Why not just blame North Korea instead? If TPTB want fear porn they can just exaggerate the whole nuke angle.



posted on Aug, 15 2016 @ 12:25 PM
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I'm sorry, but I politely must disagree here.

We are not already in the beginnings of WWIII. However, I believe we are about mid-way through the saber rattling stages of what could turn into a major conflict that could possibly be labeled WWIII.



posted on Aug, 15 2016 @ 01:19 PM
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It is the death throes of the Industrial Revolution. Oil and gas (petrochemicals and hydrocarbons) which were so easy to convert to energy is not a sustainable model as it destroys the environment for all creatures. Carbon dioxide is not the issue it is all the other filth and partially combusted materials being belched into the atmosphere that is the real issue.

With little notice, the Rockerfeller Group dropped all their oil and gas holdings. What do they know that we do not? That was a week before Thanksgiving 2014 after Lockheed announced they can create a nuclear fusion reactor (i.e., they probably already have one). Last year Toyota announced it will no longer be selling vehicles with internal combustion engines. Again, what do they know (or been told) that we do not know?

War and the rumors of war are a direct result from this "correction" as we build up to a fusion future. Keep the peons in fear while the electronic chits are moved around ala three card monty. Yes energy will be cheep but it does not matter as the money stays with those that already have it. And that is where the real battle is going to happen. The rich are buying fortresses as if it was the zombie apocalypse to keep the hoards out. There are other way to root them out of their spider holes! They should be afraid.

When all is said and done, there will be nations that will remain the "haves" and there will still be the "have nots". At least in the near future.



posted on Aug, 15 2016 @ 01:49 PM
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There will be no WWIII. And if there is, it started in 2001 when we declared War on Terror.



posted on Aug, 15 2016 @ 03:13 PM
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Per the OP topic: It would seem that worldwide martial law is out of the question...if you have a limited view of the news that we all have access. But given an open-minded approach to all of the news, the creep toward world government is coming and could happen in a fortnight--at least the declaration of martial law--if a certain situation arose.

What could that situation be? Basically, two, nuclear war involving several players. The other is within reason IF you do follow all levels of news. That situation would be the announcement of governments declaring martial law to stem social unrest because the ETs of the UFOs have finally had enough of our antics and had moved beyond advising our governments to directly dictating to them and us.

Nuclear war between some nations would force the others to join together to stop the process from getting further out of hand. Hence, martial law across most of the world. That is a standard, collective reaction toward a large or worldwide instability. (Most of you will have absolutely no idea of how insidious the aspects of martial law can be activated.) It is not done so openly but with a myriad of restrictions, laws, orders and rules about all aspects of a society. So don't expect it to ever be explicitly called "martial law."

More real that the prospect of nuclear war is the simple fact that UFOs exist. That fact overshadows any conflict that the locals may start. The simple acknowledgement that ETs exist here and now to "help" would upset great masses of the world's populations because it would be correctly see that we are hostages to unknown, higher powers. That would be a different type of driving force for changing societies that uniting around nuclear war, but requiring about the same controls being put into place to keep order.

Either way, martial law in some vague form is in the prospect. Prepare. It won't be pretty.



posted on Aug, 15 2016 @ 09:52 PM
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I also agree to a certain degree. I think we are close to a world war. But still in the saber rattling stage. I don't think it will be a conventional or even nuclear war. I think we will see a large up swing in proxy wars. Probably even some naval, air and drone type skirmishes. One of the things that will.come with it will be rationing and A LOT of rights being "temporarily suspended".

As far as the now is concerned maybe it not a one world government but more or less the elites, 1%, Illuminati, TPTB whatever you want to call them, leaving most of us common folk to the wolves so to speak. If we were left without a centralized government, how long would it be before your neighborhood looked like Mogadishu? How many of your neighbors
Would be dead in a week? How many would be left in a month? After a year how many would take being a lackey of sorts in this "safe compound" for the ones with money over the insecurity of the new "wilderness" that used to be your pretty little town?

Give that a decade or two and I bet those that are left would be more or less small Hunter gather type tribes. And the elites would have their"servants" (those that chose safety and servitude over what was left out there.) And would have pretty much the world as their playground. As those that were left to survive outside these compounds sided off or gave up.



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