The Republican Party Is Dead

The Republican Party (as we knew it) is dead. Trump has brought them into the light from the dark ages and finally focused on the important issues like our security and bringing jobs, innovation and exceptionalism back to America.

The truth is Republicans lost the war on social issues. The gay issue is over, the abortion issue is over, and the transvestite issue is, at the very least irrelevant if not over. It is time for the Republicans to move on to issues that actually matter where they can win the war of ideas against Democrats.

Start focusing on a balanced budget and fiscal responsibility, smaller Government, and keeping us safe at home and abroad. Focus on stopping ILLEGAL immigration and securing our borders. Focus on jobs and the economy.

It is time to forget about the social issues and move on...Republicans don't have to like it, but they do need to get over it because at this point it is just holding them back. If Republicans expect to exist in 20 years they need to stop hemorrhaging membership to the Libertarian party and other socially moderate groups or they are going to be done.

Republicans, you are dead...but, you don't have to be...time to move on and reinvent yourselves under Trump and stop trying to cling to old issues from the religious right. Trump may not be likable, but he is right about the issues.

That is my take anyway.

originally posted by: Metallicus

Start focusing on a balanced budget and fiscal responsibility, smaller Government, and keeping us safe at home and abroad. Focus on stopping ILLEGAL immigration and securing our borders. Focus on jobs and the economy.

You know... this should be a prerequisite for becoming President of the US of A.

I'd vote for anybody (except Trump and Hillary) if they could pull it off.

Not holding out hope though. Too much entrenchment/party "old Guard' in place and nobody really watching out for Joe/Joanne six-pack anymore.

From a non-US standpoint I believe that its the end of the US's two-party system but not the end of the REP's; people need more choice than just vote for REP or DEM.

-MM

good maybe the democrat party can die too and we can focus on voting for the candidate based on the issues not on what party they belong to. likewise candidates can push issues because they believe in them not because their party or lobbyists tells them to.

a reply to: Metallicus
The important question that remains to be answered:
Will the dinosaurs that are left in the House and the Senate, the RINOS get the message now?

They have two options, get with the times or get the hell out.

Their platform this year includes a lengthy diatribe on "one man, one woman" marriage, a promise to wage a war on porn ( of all things ) and discussion of wanting the Bible in public schools.

Sorry man but the status quo for the GOP is alive and well.

a reply to: conspiracy nut

You're right.

These mainstream parties are all 'handling' their candidates and only will let them say what they have vetted through focus groups and polls. Nothing they say is remotely true not to mention what they actually believe.

Republicans started bailing when the NEO CONS took over.

The Political Christian Right (not all Christians) divided them even more.

Its been a long time coming. Trump is just the final straw.

I agree.

What I've seen from the RNC has been mind blowing to me.

I don't know if what they are saying is coming from Trump but I highly doubt this is coming from the Republican party because it's to in touch with the average mind.

They have taken heed that the people are PISSED and it's either they change their tune or it's time to pony up.

Great thread thanks.

originally posted by: butcherguy

They have two options, get with the times or get the hell out.

If it were only that easy....

originally posted by: SLAYER69

originally posted by: butcherguy

They have two options, get with the times or get the hell out.

If it were only that easy....

I think they had better or they will lose their party.
It might remain, but it will end up powerless and unable to field a viable candidate.

If the world was right, the Democrats would be facing the same trouble.

originally posted by: Hefficide

Their platform this year includes a lengthy diatribe on "one man, one woman" marriage, a promise to wage a war on porn ( of all things ) and discussion of wanting the Bible in public schools.

Sorry man but the status quo for the GOP is alive and well.

I don't know if we're watching the same convention or not but what I heard the last 2 days was spectacular and it's been exactly what the majority of us here have been calling for and talking about.

To ignore that to support some liberal fantasy about how Clinton is suddenly going to change things for us is borderline schizophrenic.

That pastor especially last night was speaking to me.

originally posted by: Hefficide

Their platform this year includes a lengthy diatribe on "one man, one woman" marriage, a promise to wage a war on porn ( of all things ) and discussion of wanting the Bible in public schools.

Sorry man but the status quo for the GOP is alive and well.

My point is they need to follow Trump's lead or die not that their leadership has caught up. They have lost on those issues and need to wake up.

The Republican Party is dead if they don't wake up.

Sorry for the double P.

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: SLAYER69

originally posted by: butcherguy

They have two options, get with the times or get the hell out.

If it were only that easy....

I think they had better or they will lose their party.
It might remain, but it will end up powerless and unable to field a viable candidate.

If the world was right, the Democrats would be facing the same trouble.

I don't know if you guys are living in the same paradigm as me but I saw the Republican party coming together except a very small faction lead by Ted Cruz and John Kasich. Very disillusioned people who have a hard time losing.

The DNC will be much more fractured and I have a feeling Bernie Sanders and his more outspoken supporters are going to put up a fight against Clinton.

a reply to: onequestion

Clinton is a corporate hyena who barely makes an effort to appeal to anyone other than her donors.

I wasn't referring to the little conservative rock concert going on right now - but the actual platform released by the GOP.

originally posted by: Metallicus
The Republican Party (as we knew it) is dead. Trump has brought them into the light from the dark ages and finally focused on the important issues like our security and bringing jobs, innovation and exceptionalism back to America.

The truth is Republicans lost the war on social issues. The gay issue is over, the abortion issue is over, and the transvestite issue is, at the very least irrelevant if not over. It is time for the Republicans to move on to issues that actually matter where they can win the war of ideas against Democrats.

These issues haven't served republicans for a long time and liberals have been saying so for a long time, too. And the party Establishment has always been toxic, that's not news either.

But it took Donald Trump to open the eyes of the faithful to what democrats have seen all along.

The republican party is dead...and to the benefit of democrats. Funny how Trump managed to pull that off.

I wish someone would infiltrate the DNC and do the same to that party.

originally posted by: Hefficide
a reply to: onequestion

Clinton is a corporate hyena who barely makes an effort to appeal to anyone other than her donors.

I wasn't referring to the little conservative rock concert going on right now - but the actual platform released by the GOP.

Ahhh ok.

The rhetoric is what I'm referring too.

I like what their saying.

However I don't trust them to act on it, at least the rhetoric is changing.

I think Trump and his support has everything to do with it.

Barry Goldwater

“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party and they’re sure trying to do so, it’s going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can’t and won’t compromise. I know, I’ve tried to deal with them.” ~ Barry Goldwater, November 1994, as quoted in John Dean, Conservatives Without Conscience (2006) www.patheos.com...

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