Off-duty cop in Missouri kills home invader after online Black Lives Matter argument, family says

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: pavil

Being crazy doesn't condone violent behavior.

Correct.
Similarly, because there was an argument about BLM preceding the illegal entry into the home, it does not mean that BLM is "responsible."

Okay tell be what you mean by "it does not mean that the BLM is 'responsible'" in succinct definitive terms and not the usual 1 nor 2 one liner.

Kind regards,

Bally

a reply to: bally001
Nah. The conversation is quite brief and I don't care to repeat myself. If you're actually interested you can figure it out.

a reply to: Phage

2 lines.

Typical Google search for replies. Fake.

Kind regards

Bally

Prize winner alert.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: pavil

Being crazy doesn't condone violent behavior.

Correct.
Similarly, because there was an argument about BLM preceding the illegal entry into the home, it does not mean that BLM is "responsible."

Certainly seems to be one of the two main factors. Not the movement, but it's beliefs. Similar to how anti abortionists kill doctors at women's clinics. Same behavior to me.

So, since the intruder didn't have a gun, it's his mental health to blame.
And if he had an AR, the "assault rifle" would be to blame.
Sound about right?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: pavil

Being crazy doesn't condone violent behavior.

Correct.
Similarly, because there was an argument about BLM preceding the illegal entry into the home, it does not mean that BLM is "responsible."

Do you blame the entire nazi party for the atrocities of WW2, or just the individuals who pulled the triggers and gas switches?

originally posted by: rollanotherone

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: pavil

Being crazy doesn't condone violent behavior.

Correct.
Similarly, because there was an argument about BLM preceding the illegal entry into the home, it does not mean that BLM is "responsible."

Do you blame the entire nazi party for the atrocities of WW2, or just the individuals who pulled the triggers and gas switches?

The entire Nazi party did not know that the concentration camps were running nor did they all participate in the holocaust.

Good job on the part of the cop. This is why people in such groups prefer to act out in crowds, for the most part, because one-on-one doesn't tend to end as well for them. In crowds, they can throw things at police, make threats, issue demands, and bet on not being arrested, because there are simply too many of them.

a reply to: rollanotherone

Do you blame the entire nazi party for the atrocities of WW2, or just the individuals who pulled the triggers and gas switches?

Are you comparing BLM to a national party which actually has to power to commit genocide?

a reply to: Tjoran

Is your guild inherently racist, radical and belligerent?

BLM activists are aggressive and even violent. They routinely speak of killing police and white people. Having a belligerent attitude is not far from the norm in the movement as far as I can tell.

So it's no surprise that they're lashing out like this and in turn gets shot.

originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: Tjoran

Police told KMOV the man had emotional issues and had issued threats to the family online before the shooting.
An uncle of Gebhard's, Patrick Brogan, of Waterloo, Illinois, told The St. Louis Post-Dispatch Gebhard and the officer had been arguing on Facebook. He said Gebhard, who was biracial, empathized with the objectives of the Black Lives Matter group.

So they are arguing over BLM and their goals, which he agrees with, then the guy threatens the family online and to top it off, goes to their house. After being refused entry, he throws a planter through a window and comes in to the house to...what? Tea and cookies?
Or make good on his threats?

In this case the bad guy wound up assuming ambient temperature .

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: rollanotherone

Do you blame the entire nazi party for the atrocities of WW2, or just the individuals who pulled the triggers and gas switches?

Are you comparing BLM to a national party which actually has to power to commit genocide?

Did you just answer a question with a question ?

Go to a man's home and cause his family distress and fear and...nah actually end of story there. Nothing means more to a man than defending his family and home.

Once again it's the dead guys own fault nobody else is to blame except him.

a reply to: Bone75

You should be waiting for someone to complain that the cop used excessive force and should have shot him in the arm or leg or something else.

What more proof do people need in order to see just what kind of organization BLM really is? They say they fight for justice and peace, but they keep brainwashing their supporters to commit crimes, in order to gain something. Which is a disgrace.

originally posted by: pavil

originally posted by: ~Lucidity


This is a lone nut. There is no correlation.

I find it interesting that both sides of the political debate frame things as "just a crazy person, nothing to do with the bigger issue" when it fits their narrative and the opposite when it's something they oppose. If the person wasn't aggitated by "issue A" in the first place, they wouldn't have got violent in the first place. Call it like it is, both sides please.

Find whatever you want to find. Sometimes that just happens to be true.And I do call it like it is. No sides necessary. Sides are a whole differenet mental illness, which by the way are a contributing factor to the variouss mental illnesses already displayed in this story.

a reply to: Phage

Ok, If a person gets violent over a verbal disagreement they are unstable in the first place.

Talking about BLM there ?

With all the VIOLENCE being spread across this country.

This happened a few houses down from my Mom. Her husband went to school with the lady who lives there. It was actually her son-in-law who was the off duty police officer. The Mom, her daughter, and her grandchildren climbed out a window as the intruder was coming in. The intruder went to church with them. This family is involved with counseling and the intruder was off his meds and they had not been getting along during their sessions.

a reply to: odzeandennz

WTF???

Really???...When people deride the media as fanning the flames of violence they are talking about THIS OP and it's Source Headlines.

POUR THAT GASOLINE ON THE FIRE!!!!

A 20 year old kid...

In a small town of " .2 square miles"...1400 population...

Everyone knew the kid was suffering from "Mental Issues"...
"He had a lot of mental problems the last few months," Brogan said. "

AND this cop knew the kid and had had problems with him before...

" Brogan said Gebhard and the police officer he befriended at a local church "

www.stltoday.com... a6.html

AND YOU...Decide to make this an indictment of BLM?????...

This is akin to declaring associating every insane person that commits violence in the USA because they heard God talking to them as nothing more than minions of the violent Catholic Church!!!

This mentally unstable small town kid could have just as easily been triggered by a debate with his friend about the treatment or Orca's at SeaWorld..cuz he was crazy...and everyone knew it.

FAN THEM FLAMES!!