Hundreds join Black Lives Matter march through London

a reply to: burgerbuddy

Slavery not as big issue as we never actually had slaves in Britain itself only in the colony's so all the blacks are here by choice. The majority being invited in the 1950's to fill a labor shortage.

Though we still get some extreme ends of social justice movement demanding reparations, but luckily no one takes them seriously.

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
Just came back one last time to say this.

Why is it that so many things here on ATS that could be presented or perceived in a positive light turn into just the opposite?

I fully expected, after seeing the headline on this thread, to come in here and see the opposite.

Derision, criticism, negativity, judgement. That kind of thing is far less likely to bring us a better world and it's a horrible example to set.

Done.

Because sometimes things are even more stupid under analysis than they appeared from the outset?

These people are not supporting more ethical conduct by police officers, they're supporting an excuse for racial violence.

When BLM is stripped bare, that's all it is. Race baiting and an excuse for anti-social behaviour. Whatever it might have been in the hearts and minds of the people who started it, that is all it has become.

God forbid they put half as much effort into actually improving their own communities or their own lot in life. Nope, Mr. Whitey McWhiteGuy creeps into their bedroom at night and steals all their school textbooks and eats their homework assignments, or beats them up every time they refuse to smoke dope or play video games instead of looking for jobs.

Is it because they are black? They're certainly not painting a very good picture of their communities. Still, the world is full of positive, empowering, black role models; people who have succeeded by their own effort and leveraging their own talents. Perhaps if these people were given even a fraction of the level of adulation as the plethora of Gansta Rappers currently glorifying drugs and violence, there would be a lot less people creating situations that lead to them getting shot.

All of the main BLM martyrs, once put under the microscope, turns out to have met a demise predominantly of their own making. Funny how they fight so hard to avoid discussing those funny little details, eh?

If you want to make the world a better place, start by convincing every person attending those marches to sit and read about Ben Carson, Frederick Douglass, Brandon Frame, or Dr. Gregory Ellison. Those are the faces that should be on their tshirts and banners, not Trayvon Martin or Michael Brown.

Those communities suffer a terrible affliction in terms of (comparative) poverty and violence. BLM and the like have no interest, and do not benefit from, anything which leads to improving those conditions.

The world needs more Tony Warners and less Al Sharptons.

a reply to: EvillerBob

If you want to make the world a better place, start by convincing every person attending those marches to sit and read about Ben Carson, Frederick Douglass, Brandon Frame, or Dr. Gregory Ellison. Those are the faces that should be on their tshirts and banners, not Trayvon Martin or Michael Brown.

Those communities suffer a terrible affliction in terms of (comparative) poverty and violence. BLM and the like have no interest, and do not benefit from, anything which leads to improving those conditions.

Clueless - and a perfect example of why Black Lives Matter exists

Let me ask you this - who do you think Anders Breivik should be more like?

a reply to: crazyewok

The marchers were heard to shout "Hands up, don't shoot" as they carried banners through the capital.

There should have been a line of policemen escorting them! Shooting them occasionally... with water pistols.

That would suit our sense of humour.

Because lets be honest, BLM has no relevance here.

a reply to: crazyewok

Best way to explain this I think is that it's a hijacked SJW franchise. How ridiculous, it's like setting up a store that sells only pork in a Muslim country lol.

Cheers - Dave

Bet half these morons cant even locate the USA on a map

I think BLM would do well importing over to many parts of Africa actually. You wanna see black lives being exterminated casually and government oppression going on, look no further than homeland. Every point on the continent is a tale of sorrow at the moment.

If BLM is to become a international thing, then will focus go on where it truly is a desperate issue? or is this just a complain in white majority countries only thing as usual?

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis

What's going on here should not be diminished

Apartheid was a domestic affair

Indeed, BLM is a really important US issue. It is not an important UK issue.

Apartheid left South Africa an international pariah and it had an international dimension. BLM and the US problems with race relations has no international dimension, they are a domestic problem. They are different things.

a reply to: paraphi


Nationalists. It really cracks me up - when it doesn't make me want to cry

It's not practical to care about the problems of people that you don't know, that aren't a part of your immediate world

I get it. We can't fight every fight

This is a serious problem for us right now - even though there are a lot of people here in the states that want to call this a snowflake issue. That black people here got nothing to whine about...well, we'll see how this plays out

What happens in the States will one way or another affect everyone, so - if you can't get on board philosophically, you might want to at least wonder how this might bite you in the ass in a very tangible way further down the road

Same as we will all feel Brexit, Ukraine, Israel, Cuba, North Korea, Iran - Syria. India, Pakistan, China...Africa. Columbia

Our World is getting smaller

Young people are stupid and want to be a part of something.

I also doubt anyone in the UK realizes how dangerous predominantly black neighborhoods in the US actually often are. I think way more people would be more sympathetic to the police if they tried to walk through one of those neighborhoods alone.

I listened to that one black dude talk about the genocide against black people by American police and figure he's only ever read things put out by BLM. I just hope their insanity doesn't reach your shores and start messing things up.

a reply to: crazyewok

Now be nice, they're not US citizens, they probably know a little geography.

originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: burgerbuddy

Slavery not as big issue as we never actually had slaves in Britain itself only in the colony's so all the blacks are here by choice. The majority being invited in the 1950's to fill a labor shortage.

Though we still get some extreme ends of social justice movement demanding reparations, but luckily no one takes them seriously.

That's an extremely moot point as the slave trade made many English men wealthy beyond their dreams and fairly much made ports such as Liverpool very profitable.

Although by no means as extreme as in America, it wasn't that long ago the UK police were classed as institutionally racist, so let's not pretend their is no recent history in the UK - thankfully massively less likely to end with death than in America.

a reply to: crazyewok

We do what we can.Why not share the wealth

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
It's not practical to care about the problems of people that you don't know, that aren't a part of your immediate world

I get it. We can't fight every fight

I don't give a toss for the blacks in the US. The US is a successful country that has the capability to sort out long-running race relation problems and deep rooted issues of "victimhood" and all that. It is up to Americans to address their ridiculous gun laws; their insensitive policing; their societal inequalities etc...

I care about the rights of women and girls in developing nations. The BLM that I care about is female genital mutilation in some African countries and the parlous abuse of women in other African countries.

To be honest, there are bigger issues that concern black people's lives, than out-of-control police and out-of-control gun crime, in an advanced country that needs to get a grip.

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: paraphi

This is a serious problem for us right now - even though there are a lot of people here in the states that want to call this a snowflake issue. That black people here got nothing to whine about...well, we'll see how this plays out

Oddly enough, most comments I've seen agree that there is an issue to be addressed, they just wonder why those issues are being ignored in favour of a group who's goals seem centered around destroying any positive relationships with wider communities.

with all due respect, folks...

a reply to: Spiramirabilis

What happens in the States will one way or another affect everyone, so - if you can't get on board philosophically, you might want to at least wonder how this might bite you in the ass in a very tangible way further down the road

Well, that might not be the case if we just ignore the ignorant part of US culture, right?

I mean comparing BLM to Brexit? WTF dude?

If BLM is important to you great, don't export that rubbish and expect people to buy into it though.

DAMN!!!

a reply to: paraphi


Lol.. You crack me up.. Peeple worried about getting killed on the way to work or queuing up for doughnuts..
Pay attention to important issues. We can tolk about charity scams later.

What the heck has all that stuff going on in Texas got to do with protesting here? Ok it's news, sort of news but what difference does it make over here? Interesting bit of news that the media force down our necks and loads of police get killed every day in every country among hundreds of countries on Planet Earth. Now some Brits get up and start marching for what? It's nothing to do with us over here. The media are trying to enflame other places around the world by winding up people showing these incidents

originally posted by: Pandaram
Pay attention to important issues. We can tolk about charity scams later.

Yes, important for America. I'm not American and don't have a pressing desire to care about domestic issues in the US. I am more concerned with black lives outside of America. BLM has no context I the UK.