Largest Naval Exercise in the World underway RIMPAC16

A commercial airliner usually vanishes during these exercises. Let's see which airline disappears off the radar.

a reply to: Jekka

Different nations learn how to communicate with each other, learn capabilities (partially,) and generally figure out assigned roles.

As far as Russian spy ships...thats not even newsworthy in my opinion. They have been shadowing USN ships since there was a Soviet Navy...as a Marine on gator navy ships I saw Trawlers, helos, Tu95s, and a few other Soviets back in the late great 80's. Good times....one finger diplomacy was the name of the game back then.

a reply to: AMPTAH

There hasn't been a single aircraft that has gone missing during a RIMPAC, except the A-6 that was accidentally shot down one year towing a target. And there are dozens, if not hundreds of exercises that go one around the world that are large without anything happening.

a reply to: MrSpad

Days sometimes.

I always HATE exercises in the Army because they wouldn't tell me WHO WON!
Do they at least keep score?

I meant to add the during exercises, the US Navy turns off equipment and tunes some down, so true capabilities are secure.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: AMPTAH

There hasn't been a single aircraft that has gone missing during a RIMPAC, except the A-6 that was accidentally shot down one year towing a target. And there are dozens, if not hundreds of exercises that go one around the world that are large without anything happening.

Missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 was ‘shot down in military training exercise’ claims first book released about lost jet


AND

Disappearance of EgyptAir MS804...Phoenix Express 2016 – USARICOM Military Exercise


Let's just wait and see.

a reply to: AMPTAH

So they found the wreckage and solved the mystery huh.

One aircraft going missing is hardly proof that " A commercial airliner usually vanishes during these exercises." Worldwide there are at least a dozen exercises going on every day, and yet we don't see aircraft missing constantly.

Hyperbole much?

a reply to: AMPTAH

Oh so you found two. MS804 is shaping up to have been an accident that had absolutely nothing to do with any military activity. It also was "missing" for about two days before wreckage was found. The exercise had no way to bring it down short of something colliding into it, which didn't happen.

I can probably find an exercise going on for every plane that has crashed, but just like with other events, and asas I've said twice now, there are dozens of exercises going on every single day. It's called "training".

a reply to: AMPTAH

Missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 was ‘shot down in military training exercise’ claims first book released about lost jet

Problem is it is based off of what this man thinks he saw, and not actual proof that he what he saw was the airliner.

Also at the distance he supposedly saw this plane how did he know it was a plane and knew it was MH 370...speculating is fun but that isn't proof.

Disappearance of EgyptAir MS804...Phoenix Express 2016 – USARICOM Military Exercise

Grasping at straws a bit there aren't you?

Your tax dollars at work.

Would someone please convince the Pentagon that if all US citizens had access to a free basic college education, they wouldn't have to spend so much time on remedial math and reading and the class of recruit they would get would improve?

Which is it that keeps us safe and the world more or less at peace? Firepower or brain power?

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h

Grasping at straws a bit there aren't you?

Not really.

I'm just pointing out that these airlines just happen to vanish during military drills.

Kinda like what happens when there's a shooting event in the US, that happen coincidentally during FBI drills.

So, whenever we hear of a "drill" happening somewhere, we're now on the alert for a corresponding event.

a reply to: AMPTAH
Sometimes the phone rings as I step into the shower. Does that ever happen to you?
Does that put you on alert for phone calls whenever you take a shower?

a reply to: AMPTAH

Then you shouldn't ever sleep so you can keep on the alert. According to you, commercial planes should be dropping out of the sky constantly. There are multiple multi nation exercises going on every month, and large single nation exercises going on somewhere weekly.

originally posted by: AMPTAH

Grasping at straws a bit there aren't you?

Not really.

I'm just pointing out that these airlines just happen to vanish during military drills.

Here's yet another example:

Russia says MH17 was shot down by plane missiles

Kinda like what happens when there's a shooting event in the US, that happen coincidentally during FBI drills.

Of course, there are denials all around, that the plane dropping out the sky has anything to do with the military operations going on simultaneously on the ground and/or at sea. But, there are always claims to the contrary too.

I can't tell you who is right. It's the "coincidence correlation" that I'm pointing out here.

So, whenever we hear of a "drill" happening somewhere, we're now on the alert for a corresponding event.

Let's wait and see.

It should be exciting times ahead.

a reply to: AMPTAH

Swift Response 16
Baltops
Rapid Trident
Angkor Sentinel 16
Khaan Quest 16
Anaconda 16

Those are just a few from the last few months. Where are all the missing planes from them? Where are all the missing planes from all the other 2016 exercises? The 2015 ones?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: AMPTAH
Sometimes the phone rings as I step into the shower. Does that ever happen to you?
Does that put you on alert for phone calls whenever you take a shower?

Yes, it does

a reply to: AMPTAH

So a plane flying over a war zone now qualifies as being shot down during an exercise? And it was shot down by a surface to air missile not air to air.

Last year they predicted something well over a billion people would travel by air in 2016. Don't you think that just maybe there might possibly be an accident near a training exercise with that many aircraft in the sky?

a reply to: SentientCentenarian

Or how about kids actually having parents give a damn about that education? Kids doing that basic math instead of vegging out in front of their game consoles or computer screens?

That would be too much like taking some responsibility, wouldn't it?

a reply to: Zaphod58

Of course it does. It's that strange new world we live in. Where everything is insidious, and dark. Nothing is actually what it seems. Ever.

I, too, am interested in knowing where all the missing planes are from those other exercises you mentioned...

Not that I expect an answer. Unverifiable hyperbole being rather hard to prove, and all.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: AMPTAH

So a plane flying over a war zone now qualifies as being shot down during an exercise? And it was shot down by a surface to air missile not air to air.

Last year they predicted something well over a billion people would travel by air in 2016. Don't you think that just maybe there might possibly be an accident near a training exercise with that many aircraft in the sky?

Here you go, just happened, plane goes missing AGAIN !

Indian air force plane with 29 on board goes missing, 22nd July 2016

Right on time!

Like clockwork.