Dallas shooting!

originally posted by: DuckforcoveR
Just another no-name ATS'r with a beef to spill.

Damn I would have had a lot more respect for your post had you said "grill" instead of "spill"

You blew it dude.

Just busting chops... great post with solid points. Unfortunately the people who need that advice the most will be the least receptive.

originally posted by: starviego

It is a given that they will find material implicating him in the crime: militant literature, and probably more guns/ammo/receipts/etc.

originally posted by: starviego

... don't forget the diary/manifesto/videos made by the perp/patsy to seal the deal.

Do I know how to call them, or what?

www.yahoo.com...
... law enforcement officers had determined, after finding a trove of weapons and written combat manifestos in his home ,,,
“During the search of the suspect’s home, detectives found bomb-making materials, ballistic vests, rifles, ammunition and a personal journal of combat tactics,” police said in a statement.

originally posted by: texasgirl
a reply to: MarkOfTheV

When the shooting started at different angles? How does one person shoot from different angles at the same time?

They same technique used by Lee Harvey Oswald when he shot Kennedy from multiple angles.

rare.us...

people line up to hug officers

a reply to: Realtruth

They same technique used by Lee Harvey Oswald when he shot Kennedy from multiple angles.

How could Oswald have shot Kennedy from multiple angles if he was firing from the same location consecutively?

a reply to: ColdWisdom

A time machine of course. You keep going back to the same moment and shoot from different locations. I'm pretty sure that's what realtruth meant.

Unless, of course he was proving a point in the form of a joke that flew over your head.

originally posted by: cfnyaami
a reply to: burgerbuddy

Hey, has anyone done any research on the supposed Craigslist ad/call for crisis actors out of Houston for the first week of July? Was there a drill in Houston? Could any of those in the Dallas scenario have been a part of that?

Just thinking outside the box.

Considering the dead are all cops, what's your point?

originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: cfnyaami
a reply to: burgerbuddy

Hey, has anyone done any research on the supposed Craigslist ad/call for crisis actors out of Houston for the first week of July? Was there a drill in Houston? Could any of those in the Dallas scenario have been a part of that?

Just thinking outside the box.

Considering the dead are all cops, what's your point?

The media needs access to witnesses who are coherent in these situations. It seems that some folks believe that these events always have crisis actors on hand to do interviews with msm---to make some sort of point I suppose. The theory that I've heard is that the crisis actors stir up stuff and are skilled at getting in front of the cameras. They often just throw doubt on the official story, creating a lot of contradictory reports.
Since I've never been near one of these events, I have no idea whether that theory holds water or not, or whether the link for crisis actors is even real....just offering a possible explanation of the crisis actor theory.

originally posted by: jhn7537
a reply to: diggindirt

Why are they pushing the lone gunman theory?? I heard at least 2 and as high as 4 gunman, but now they suggest "lone gunman"...

As others have speculated---the lone gunman is down and therefore the fear can be tamped down more easily. I heard several on-site reports last evening as things unfolded that had me convinced there were multiple shooters. My curiosity now is where are the bullets fired in that barrage after the initial shots. The first half-dozen or so shots had pauses between them but then there was a big barrage, making me wonder why dozens weren't down. Firing 50 or more rounds into a crowd that was said to number at least 700 and only hitting 13 people? Or were some of those shots in the barrage from the police? I have no idea at this point. I saw several clips of cops with their rifles pointed upward but none of them actually firing.
I'm not ready to accept a lone gun theory either. I can't completely discount all the reports I heard in the live coverage.

a reply to: diggindirt

People are coherent, in their own minds. They believe they saw and heard what they say they saw and heard.

There's a 100 different things going on at once. You're not looking at the exact same thing at the exact same time from the exact same position as a person ten feet away from you. You've never shot a gun before in your life, so you can't differentiate between a handgun and a rifle, while the other person shoots on a weekly basis and knows the difference in the sound. But the other person doesn't live in the city, so they're not all that familiar with how sound carries in a built up area. You, you live two blocks away and you can pinpoint what road an ambulance is on just by the pitch of its siren. You see a plainclothes cop in body armor with a badge on his belt running towards the gunfire with his gun drawn. The guy ten feet away though, he didn't see the badge as the cop ran past him. All he sees is a guy in body armor with a gun running down the street.

See why you two might have different stories, yet believe you're each entirely and completely accurate?

Welcome to eyewitness testimony.

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: neo96
'Tactical Gear' and 'Assault rifles'.

We ALL know whats coming tomorrow.

Imagine those who will be living not only tomorrow but the rest of their lives without their loved ones after what's happened tonight.

Sorry, but your victimization of your guns is incredibly out of place. Show some respect to those who have lost their lives as opposed to politicizing it into a gun issue.

In europe union cops adress you sir or madam, if they dont, you can sue them and they would go to unpaid holiday, Some police officers dont even have a guns (english boby etc.). There is no killing by police, unless it was armored sicko shooting at ppl. The only difference is there are no guns in streets, and if you want to buy one even for hunting, not self-defence, you go through sirius checks, medical and psychiatry tests. It is almost impossible to get carry permit, you must be ex cop hero or military officer pensioner. We all decided that owning a gun makes you criminal and there is more death by gun in one american city in month, then all of eu countries together in year. I was in the war and there is enough guns in my life...

a reply to: kita0dtita

There's those apples and oranges again.

originally posted by: texasgirl
, Dallas Police Chief, during the press conference, said the surviving suspect admitted to shooting....

Don't you just love it when the perp confesses, explains his motivations, assures everybody he is acting alone, claims no connection to the demonstrators, and then is conveniently killed? And people actually buy into this crap!

a reply to: Shamrock6
I think that theory of crisis actors is to plant eye witness testimony. It doesn't really have much to do with actual eye witness testimony. The rub comes in deciding who is real and who has been instructed in what to say. Maybe they should be called "event trolls" rather than crisis actors.
I don't know if they exist or whether they were part of last night's crowd, just attempting to explain the post about crisis actors.
I'm pretty sure the leaders of the march weren't crisis actors since they are well known in the city and by the police. The accounts I saw them giving gave the distinct impression that nobody could tell the source of the shooting. I know there is a video that supposedly shows the murder of one officer. I haven't heard any interviews with the person who filmed that scene. I'm waiting for the investigation to progress. All I know is at least one crazy person was on the scene shooting at cops and hitting several. I also know that the shooter was a fairly good shot since the chances of only two of the 700 civilians on the scene were hit. But I still maintain that people who grab a gun and shoot others for no good reason have something twisted in their brain. It isn't normal behavior. The puzzle comes in attempting to figure out how the wiring got so twisted as to cause this sort of behavior.

apparently 1 shooter.

200 officers have been interviewed and of those only 12 discharged their firearms.

The news said that what happened in Dallas was the most cops dead in a day since 9-11, I guess it's true what they say, everything is bigger in Texas.