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originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: Indigo5
originally posted by: roadgravel
It was a robot with explosives attached to it. They put a device on a EOD robot and sent it in.
Some seem disturbed by using an explosive to end the fight. Bullets or bomb, both would end his life. He chose to not surrender. Enough had given up their life in the attempt to stop him.
I am glad they found a way to take him out without risking more officer's lives...but honestly what it portends for the future is a little unnerving. With Robotics and Drones advancing rapidly right now...This might be the future of law enforcement...and a remote operator pushing a button on a joystick is a different moral dynamic than pulling a trigger in a face to face decision.
I don't believe there is any moral dilemma. It doesn't matter how this racist and terrorist was killed.
I am glad they found a way to take him out without risking more officer's lives...but honestly what it portends for the future is a little unnerving. With Robotics and Drones advancing rapidly right now...
This might be the future of law enforcement...and a remote operator pushing a button on a joystick is a different moral dynamic than pulling a trigger in a face to face decision.
originally posted by: Shamrock6
originally posted by: sg1642
originally posted by: Nyiah
originally posted by: sg1642
Some questions.
Any details on the weapon and caliber used? What sighting system did he use?
Any details about this guys military service and what his role was? What were his marksmanship skills like?
How long did the initial engagement last?
What kind of distances was he firing at?
Why were witnesses reporting several shooters?
For one man to take down 10 plus trained men single handed and not take out half the peaceful protesters in the crossfire and behind his targets. Well that is an achievement. Or bull#. You decide.
You a little late to the party or what? He wasn't solo, he had help (as evidenced by those in CUSTODY)
And you don't triangulate an area solo. Ain't gonna work.
Edit: Speaking of that trio, any new news on them someone with superior google-fu can find? All I can find is they're still in custody, and nothing's being said about them yet.
well the news and media need to get their stories straight
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I know. I hate it when less than 24 hours after an event they don't have all the facts for our consumption and the investigation complete and published in a PDF for us.
originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: jonnywhite
The capability of taping an explosive device to a robot? That capability? It's been around for a while. It wasn't some specially designed suicide robot.
And yea, I say doing that to a subject who has communicated a clear intent and capability to kill as many of you as he can, after having demonstrated the willingness to do so, is a pretty good time to use some creative thinking.
originally posted by: sg1642
Some questions.
Any details on the weapon and caliber used? What sighting system did he use?
What ammunition was he using to make that much sparking?
Any details about this guys military service and what his role was? What were his marksmanship skills like?
How long did the initial engagement last?
What kind of distances was he firing at?
Why were witnesses reporting several shooters?
For one man to take down 10 plus trained men single handed and not take out half the peaceful protesters in the crossfire and behind his targets. Well that is an achievement. Or bull#. You decide.
originally posted by: supremecommander
originally posted by: Domo1
a reply to: Mrgone
They used the bomb disposal robot and an explosive charge to kill him.
No one seems to be talking about the other 3 in custody.
The mainstream press has all but stopped talking about the other 3 suspects and are now framing the "lone wolf" narrative.
this was a government sponsored attack.
originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
originally posted by: sg1642
Some questions.
Any details on the weapon and caliber used? What sighting system did he use?
What ammunition was he using to make that much sparking?
Any details about this guys military service and what his role was? What were his marksmanship skills like?
How long did the initial engagement last?
What kind of distances was he firing at?
Why were witnesses reporting several shooters?
For one man to take down 10 plus trained men single handed and not take out half the peaceful protesters in the crossfire and behind his targets. Well that is an achievement. Or bull#. You decide.
The sparks were probably from using incendiary ammo.
iTruthSeeker
originally posted by: sg1642
originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
originally posted by: sg1642
Some questions.
Any details on the weapon and caliber used? What sighting system did he use?
What ammunition was he using to make that much sparking?
Any details about this guys military service and what his role was? What were his marksmanship skills like?
How long did the initial engagement last?
What kind of distances was he firing at?
Why were witnesses reporting several shooters?
For one man to take down 10 plus trained men single handed and not take out half the peaceful protesters in the crossfire and behind his targets. Well that is an achievement. Or bull#. You decide.
The sparks were probably from using incendiary ammo.
iTruthSeeker
A steel core bullet will spark and incendiary will too but the sheer size and volume of the sparks seem odd.
originally posted by: syrinx high priest
I'm not going to read 114 pages so some random thoughts
1 - thoughts and prayers to the families of the deceased and wounded, what a tragedy
2- the shooter that was blown up deserved it
3- the media has blood on their hands from the sensationalized coverage of the white on black shootings
4- the minnesota governor is an idiot, as well as deblasio
5- no law or legislation will change anything
this is an american culture issue, we are an angry, stressed out nation of people who feel rotten on the inside and the weak ones lash out
originally posted by: syrinx high priest
3- the media has blood on their hands from the sensationalized coverage of the white on black shootings
His awards included the Afghanistan Campaign Medal with campaign star; the Army Achievement Medal; the National Defense Service Medal; the Global War on Terrorism Service Medal; the Army Service Ribbon; the Armed Forces Reserve Medal with "M" Device; and the NATO Medal.
originally posted by: CaPpedDoG
I noticed in this video that there are sparks flying @ 1:05 on the left, right before the officer is ambushed. I can't quite figure out what caused them. Was it the officer opening fire? As far as I know, his service pistol wouldn't create sparks like that. Was it the killer? But why would he shoot in that direction? Was it a second shooter? Anyone?
he was shooting in that direction to begin with. The most logical explanation would be he has got jumpy on the trigger when the cop closed in behind him and shot the ground.
originally posted by: CaPpedDoG
a reply to: GoShredAK
I'm not sure if we're talking about the same sparks. I realize when he went to ambush him he opened fire (sparks flying.) Right before though, on the left (behind the killer) there are sparks. If it was him, why would he shoot in that direction?
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It is very much a hate crime. I've only seen white racist on ATS propose that people think 'only white people are racist', while at the same time, refusing to acknowledge that whites are ALSO racist. Two Black men were murdered a few days ago and you people dance through mental gymnastics to avoid confronting the issue.
Perfect example of what I've just said above. White privilege is a thing. Racist white people do exist in America. That doesn't mean that racist Blacks/Asians/Hispanics don't exist.
What group is being raised and at the expense of whom? Serious question. Please provide examples.
What's wrong with the BET awards? You know that company is (was? unsure) owned and operated by a White guy?
You seem bitter for some reason. Do you hate Black people?
Saying Black lives matter is in no way saying White lives don't matter. Many people have pointed that out, but those with a persecution complex simply refuse to acknowledge it. The Testicular Cancer Society should not exist because they are implying that non testicular cancer cancer patients don't matter eh? Its silly.
You had me fooled. Black people shoot each other more, White people shoot each other more. So what? Why are you trying so hard to distract from the issue of Black people being targeted by racism? Are you afraid of Blacks? Do you hate them?I am very sorry that black people get shot by police officers so frequently. And I am very sorry that black people shoot each other even more frequently.
If you cared to look, you'd find it. Oh, you're waiting for FOX news to show you? What are you using the internet for then?
I'm going to ask you again, why are you trying so desperately to deflect the issue ? Where are the `good` cops executing the `bad` cops?
White cops are executing Blacks in the streets. Have you been paying attention the last couple of days?
But you're not going to give a flying # until its at your own front door. Maybe you'll take note if its you or yours next time.
Who said that? But I can cite multiple people (from this very board!) that will justify profiling Blacks just because some other Blacks committed a crime . Do you not see the hypocrisy? You are part of the problem .
Again, who said that? Where? Quote it.
I can cite multiple people (from this very board!) that will say I lost my job because of Affirmative Action though!
originally posted by: Nyiah
a reply to: six67seven
Totally agree, cops were under fire from ground level & above. He's not Superman moving faster than his own bullets here.
originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
originally posted by: sg1642
Some questions.
Any details on the weapon and caliber used? What sighting system did he use?
What ammunition was he using to make that much sparking?
Any details about this guys military service and what his role was? What were his marksmanship skills like?
How long did the initial engagement last?
What kind of distances was he firing at?
Why were witnesses reporting several shooters?
For one man to take down 10 plus trained men single handed and not take out half the peaceful protesters in the crossfire and behind his targets. Well that is an achievement. Or bull#. You decide.
The sparks were probably from using incendiary ammo.
iTruthSeeker