Pro-Gay Atheist: Here’s why you should stand with Christian Mingle

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

There are also Christians and Christian denominations that don't shun LGBT people. One can still be a Christian and identify as LGBT.

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: Annee
Bunch of nonsense.

So why haven't Islamic dating sites been forced to do this?

And the Black only dating sites, and what the heck, Farmersonly.com needs to accommodate to those who aren't privileged enough to live out of city limits.

I identify as a farmer, and I "get it"!

a reply to: windword

When you join there is an option to pick what type of domination you are I bet the long list included some of those.

a reply to: Annee

"2nd class citizens must go elsewhere to use an inferior product that costs more.

the product seems to have a serious design flaw and is missing out on customers because of it. it doesn't seem to be the most superior product. if it was designed well, it's designer would have foreseen that not all men would be searching for female partners and written their code differently...

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: Annee

"2nd class citizens must go elsewhere to use an inferior product that costs more.

the product seems to have a serious design flaw and is missing out on customers because of it. it doesn't seem to be the most superior product. if it was designed well, it's designer would have foreseen that not all men would be searching for female partners and written their code differently...

Pretty sure in this case excluding gays was intentional.

But, the fix is really not that difficult.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

neither are all gays, does christian mingle have a statement defining what "christian" means?

I'm really trying to understand the logic behind the suit. If I want to establish a language teaching business and target female entrepreneurs by offering private lessons or courses for them, can I do that without being sued by a man because he can't take part in it. Am I forced to offer the same services to every one who wants my services or can I say: No, I only want to work with females. It may be a silly question but this case really makes me question the right to have a niche.

a reply to: Happygirl

I don't think it matters if you don't plan on charging for the service.

if you are, would you really turn down a man if he wanted to purchase your service?
I kind of think that your site and advertising can target women, your courses might even be geared to be more accommodating, but well... I guess you wouldn't be able to refuse the man that wanted it.

heck you could be industrious can make a second site, marketing the same material, but targeted at the men if you wanted.

heck I don't know that would just be my interpretation. I still think that if a muslim or wiccan or whatever went onto christian mingle, they would be in just as much trouble if they refused them. since it's discrimination also?

and there is probably a few non-christians on the site now just pretending they are.

originally posted by: Happygirl
I'm really trying to understand the logic behind the suit. If I want to establish a language teaching business and target female entrepreneurs by offering private lessons or courses for them, can I do that without being sued by a man because he can't take part in it. Am I forced to offer the same services to every one who wants my services or can I say: No, I only want to work with females. It may be a silly question but this case really makes me question the right to have a niche.

Possibly.

But, private service might be different.

I know men brought a lawsuit against Women Only discounts (drink specials, car wash, etc). The men won.

a reply to: infolurker

If it's a privately owned company, they should be able to choose whatever they want their idea to be, without government intervention motivated by cry babies. The whole point of the site, was for Christian's, who read the bible and know that they have to be "spiritually" keen to the corruption of the world, and not to fall into traps that a non-Christian and Satan may set for them. (half of the nation is divorced you know).

To put a gay section on the website, is blasphemy to the word of GOD, because the Bible makes it crystal clear that GOD opposes that life style. This action then, renders this website a hypocrisy, and is forced onto the Private business owner, by the government. It's sabotage, or an attack on Christianity.

a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

Which book in the Bible says all that?.

I think you need to read this.

www.religioustolerance.org...

originally posted by: TheKnightofDoom
a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

Which book in the Bible says all that?.

I think you must have misinterpreted what I said. I said "because the Bible makes it crystal clear that GOD opposes that life style.".....meaning the gay lifestyle. The rest was just supporting text, to enforce the underlying meaning of my post.

Any way, here are the books that make this crystal clear.

Here

originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician


To put a gay section on the website, is blasphemy to the word of GOD, because the Bible makes it crystal clear that GOD opposes that life style. This action then, renders this website a hypocrisy, and is forced onto the Private business owner, by the government. It's sabotage, or an attack on Christianity.

So, do the folks who own the website make sure that no one who subscribes wears clothes with more than one fabric or eats shellfish, because the Bible makes it pretty clear that GOD opposes those things as well.

originally posted by: kaylaluv

originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician


To put a gay section on the website, is blasphemy to the word of GOD, because the Bible makes it crystal clear that GOD opposes that life style. This action then, renders this website a hypocrisy, and is forced onto the Private business owner, by the government. It's sabotage, or an attack on Christianity.

So, do the folks who own the website make sure that no one who subscribes wears clothes with more than one fabric or eats shellfish, because the Bible makes it pretty clear that GOD opposes those things as well.

Actually, here is exactly what the Bible says about eating. Pretty much, it says we can eat what we want, after Jesus created the new covenant. Other parts of the Old Testament, also say that it doesn't matter.

Mark 7:18-22 ESV

And he said to them, “Then are you also without understanding? Do you not see that whatever goes into a person from outside cannot defile him, since it enters not his heart but his stomach, and is expelled?” (Thus he declared all foods clean.) And he said, “What comes out of a person is what defiles him. For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, coveting, wickedness, deceit, sensuality, envy, slander, pride, foolishness.

Genesis 1:29 ESV

And God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food.

Leviticus 11:1-47 ESV

And the Lord spoke to Moses and Aaron, saying to them, “Speak to the people of Israel, saying, These are the living things that you may eat among all the animals that are on the earth. Whatever parts the hoof and is cloven-footed and chews the cud, among the animals, you may eat. Nevertheless, among those that chew the cud or part the hoof, you shall not eat these: The camel, because it chews the cud but does not part the hoof, is unclean to you. And the rock badger, because it chews the cud but does not part the hoof, is unclean to you. ...

Romans 14:1-23 ESV

As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand. One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. ...

John 6:47-50 ESV

Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life. I am the bread of life. Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died. This is the bread that comes down from heaven, so that one may eat of it and not die.

Genesis 1:30 ESV

And to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the heavens and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food.” And it was so.

Colossians 2:16 ESV

Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath.

Genesis 9:3 ESV

Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. And as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything.

1 Timothy 4:1-16 ESV

Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared, who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, for it is made holy by the word of God and prayer. ...

Leviticus 11:1-30 ESV

And the Lord spoke to Moses and Aaron, saying to them, “Speak to the people of Israel, saying, These are the living things that you may eat among all the animals that are on the earth. Whatever parts the hoof and is cloven-footed and chews the cud, among the animals, you may eat. Nevertheless, among those that chew the cud or part the hoof, you shall not eat these: The camel, because it chews the cud but does not part the hoof, is unclean to you. And the rock badger, because it chews the cud but does not part the hoof, is unclean to you. ...

1 Corinthians 11:27-30 ESV

Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty concerning the body and blood of the Lord. Let a person examine himself, then, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment on himself. That is why many of you are weak and ill, and some have died.

John 6:55-59 ESV

For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him. As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so whoever feeds on me, he also will live because of me. This is the bread that came down from heaven, not like the bread the fathers ate and died. Whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.” Jesus said these things in the synagogue, as he taught at Capernaum.

John 6:50-71 ESV

This is the bread that comes down from heaven, so that one may eat of it and not die. I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. And the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh.” The Jews then disputed among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?” So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day. ...

Colossians 2:20-23 ESV

If with Christ you died to the elemental spirits of the world, why, as if you were still alive in the world, do you submit to regulations— “Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch” (referring to things that all perish as they are used)—according to human precepts and teachings? These have indeed an appearance of wisdom in promoting self-made religion and asceticism and severity to the body, but they are of no value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh.

Romans 12:1-2 ESV

I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship. Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.

Proverbs 23:2 ESV

And put a knife to your throat if you are given to appetite. (More Below)

a reply to: kaylaluv

1 Corinthians 10:15-17 ESV

I speak as to sensible people; judge for yourselves what I say. The cup of blessing that we bless, is it not a participation in the blood of Christ? The bread that we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? Because there is one bread, we who are many are one body, for we all partake of the one bread.

1 Peter 2:9 ESV

But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.

Matthew 6:25-34 ESV

“Therefore I tell you, do not be anxious about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink, nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothing? Look at the birds of the air: they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? And which of you by being anxious can add a single hour to his span of life? And why are you anxious about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin, yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. ...

a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

I don't see anything in all those scriptures that you cited that says gay people can't marry.

it does say that divorced people that remarry are committing adultery though...
so, maybe they shouldn't allow divorced people to use their site also...

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

I don't see anything in all those scriptures that you cited that says gay people can't marry.

Here is a page that lists all Bible references in regards to GOD and his opinion of gays. Although, you may not find anything specifically about marriage, it is derived, from the inference of the listed passages in the following link...

Click Here

originally posted by: windword

There are also Christians and Christian denominations that don't shun LGBT people. One can still be a Christian and identify as LGBT.

Yes, there are, and again it's the choice of those people and their denominations. But this is wrong because it also leaves open a door for the State/government pushing one view, only the government view and opinions. A religious website and it's people should be able to exercise freedom of speech and religious freedom without the government intervening.

If that Californian law was to be followed to the letter then no dating sites would be able to exist except those that would include everyone, and every group. No dating website would be able to cater to any one particular group. How would people that want to find others who have opinions, and views, including traditions in common would find each other?

There are a lot of singles that are looking for a particular type of person. Why should everyone have to be forced to the point of view of the government about what is moral and what isn't, or what traditions should be allowed and which shouldn't?

originally posted by: kaylaluv

originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician


To put a gay section on the website, is blasphemy to the word of GOD, because the Bible makes it crystal clear that GOD opposes that life style. This action then, renders this website a hypocrisy, and is forced onto the Private business owner, by the government. It's sabotage, or an attack on Christianity.

So, do the folks who own the website make sure that no one who subscribes wears clothes with more than one fabric or eats shellfish, because the Bible makes it pretty clear that GOD opposes those things as well.

Unless you're planning on having an intimate sexual relationship with Shellfish, probably not.