Sweden will shut down religious private schools

a reply to: EvillerBob

I am not a believer nor a disbeliever, they is no proof either way. If God exists, he/she/it would be about love and would look at the a lot of the so-called believers with shame because of the cherry picking of the his/her/it words.

The Bible and any other man made religious books are just a tool to control people. If this being does exist, I think their message has been warped and there is no true religious book containing their words.

A central and happy society happens because there are actually decent people in this world attempting to make the it better. A true good person is someone who doesn't do so just so they can make it to a possibly made up afterlife where they can be rewarded, if you live your life to be rewarded and don't do so out of the kindness of your heart, then you are missing the point.

originally posted by: EvillerBob

originally posted by: shredderofsouls
I never understood why schools should have any sort of religion in it. It is a place of education and not supposed to be brainwashed about the imaginary man in the sky.

Because in many places it was the Church, not the state, that took up the challenge to bring education to the masses. Even going back to the medieval period, it was the Church that required a free education to be offered to any who were too poor to pay for it themselves.

A fact often lost on atheists is that many of the things now considered central to a healthy and happy society - education for all, welfare support for the poor, etc - were the product of the Church, not the state.

Oh it isn't lost on us. We're not surprised at all the church took up the "challenge". It fits their M.O.

a reply to: shredderofsouls

Mostly sharing my observations from life.

Sure, some are my beliefs. But not beliefs hanging on a sky-hook.

. . . Beliefs that have been repeatedly tested in the nitty gritties of daily life.

I wouldn't want anyone to alter their beliefs based on any 'brainwashing.'

That's not very lasting. Folks need to search out the facts for themselves and be led of Holy Spirit into authentic TRUTH.

Nothing else is of lasting good.

I think you'll find you have all got the wrong end of the stick. I think they are refering to the small private schools which are renowned as being the first steps to radicalisation of children. This is a very big issue in Birmingham in the UK, the children have been going to official schools but then have to go to religious private schools.
The name of the game is if children are educated in official schools they can be monitored to make sure that they are not indoctrinated. The radical muslims in Birmingham tried unsuccessfully to take over the official schools so now they fall back on "religious study schools" out of school time.

a reply to: BO XIAN

Blah, blah, lol.

I almost heard the fire and brimstone spewing from between your clenched teeth as you threatened hell fire while shaking your clenched fist.

See how some have been brainwashed? Thank god I woke up to the churches dogma. Too bad you haven't.

a reply to: intrptr

The problem with this is that you and I both know that "indoctrination" isn't limited to religious schools. You find it in the public ones too.

a reply to: intrptr

No clenched teeth at all. Merely calm observations.

I certainly don't threaten anyone. I merely comment on the realities of the Authority involved and what He has said and has DEMONSTRATED for millennia.

None of us are beyond or outside His authority.

He has noted that this era will be filled with delusion and lawlessness. And so it is.

However, I read the end of The Book.

Eternal Values Win.

HIS Eternal Values Win.

HIS authority wins.

In EVERY contest throughout history . . . HE HAS WON emphatically.

The concluding dramas are being set-up currently. He will also win at Armageddon.

That's simply a fact.

Merely observations.

I understand why Sweden feels the need to take this step, but this is also where Germany went and the USSR. Sweden needs to tread carefully and the rest of the world needs to keep its eyes on Sweden.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: intrptr

The problem with this is that you and I both know that "indoctrination" isn't limited to religious schools. You find it in the public ones too.

This is a thread about "religious" schools. But I agree with you. The three Rs, leave everything else out.

a reply to: intrptr

I realize that, but:

Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted.

Vladimir Lenin

This is why I am highly skeptical of any state telling me theirs is the only program that will be acceptable in the education of my child. How do you ensure that your child is only learning what you, the parent, want them to learn and not what others want them to learn?

a reply to: BO XIAN

Sweden as a nation is a secular society by all means of its name.. They waged wars for centuries, they believe that no man can be considered their lord and they would die holding their freedom if any man tried to chain them no matter the army behind..

The Northern kingdoms are an old culture, that wishes no more than to be left alone.. They adapted Jesus as their lord and savior, and it became their cultural dogma since the last two -hundred years.. And you can see it on The Swedish flag..

The great nation on the other side of the Atlantic has no cultural dogma just seven different stories to base their society upon and they choose to be their own God.. It will never work, but if faith is based on imagination then its their choice..

The Swedish society is based on a flat hierarchy. All men and women are equal no matter your position..
A religious base is influencing the Swedish society and they also lack the theological education to even discuss the topic in school. Then you become an enemy of the state and should be considered as one.. No matter how sure you are on your belief..

If they cant teach in the Swedish society that we all have a belief and we all have faith.
And if they cant accept to not force your belief when the cultural dogma is decided by someone else..
If you cant accept that in the Swedish society, it means your place in it is forfeited..
And you should no longer be considered a Swedish citizen..

In Sweden before Gustav Vasa, they threw you of a cliff instead.. If Swedes are pushed, they will do the same thing again.. Dont be fooled by their act, they are civilized barbarians and dont think very highly of humans..

originally posted by: shredderofsouls

A central and happy society happens because there are actually decent people in this world attempting to make the it better. A true good person is someone who doesn't do so just so they can make it to a possibly made up afterlife where they can be rewarded, if you live your life to be rewarded and don't do so out of the kindness of your heart, then you are missing the point.

That is very true and I completely agree with you.

Except those people weren't anywhere to be seen, so the Church ended up doing it.

a reply to: ketsuko

Look man, anyone that steals your children at an early age and keeps them all day without you being there...

is mind controlling them.

Sweden can't do anything that the people do not allow in numbers. So man up.

My concern is the number of kids that are being outnumbered and viciously attacked in their schools by the immigrants.

I wouldn't be sending my kids to school in Sweden or Germany at all, no matter what my employee tries to enact as a psedo law in a mutiny against their boss, me.

I can certainly see Christians and even agnostics, sending their kids to religious schools, I would even create a Gnostic, Christian, Old Age/New Age, Buddhist combo school for the less programmed to introduce kids to philosophy and higher mind teachings, just to get my kids safe.

So, depends on what this is about.

And here is the thing, post this everywhere, do not comply and do not follow bad orders, and be ready to network and get more people awake, to sign round table agreements to support and protect each other, and start to play hard ball in citizens groups with your employees.

Take your power back!

This is a hijacked left. I AM LEFT, but not this crapola. FREEDOM AND EQUALITY, DAD's and MOM's ENERGY WED!!!!!!

I take it people aren't seeing what this is about. Religious or special schools are probably the only escape parents who aren't forming counsels of citizens have as arsenal against the invasion. You're taking it the other way, but there is no way its the other way. This is against citizens and trying to block their only escape root.

Me, I do not take crap from anyone. I would be there, first, advocacy, I have been told I advocate very well. I speak up with logic, wisdom and authority and do not budge at all. I do not obey bad guys, I would not obey bad laws. My kids would be instructed to run home and of course I'd pick them up. If it comes to an attack on my family by authorities they will have to kill us all because then we will respond. And the karma for murdering us is enormous. We would haul them away in test tubes, with their shriveled consciousness so small we'd probably need magnifying glasses just to pick them up with micro tweezers.

Absolutely do not comply. Never comply. But speak up very well. Speak up so well they say, you're good at advocacy and wake your towns.

This isn't about the refugees its about the citizens who's children are being raped, choked, stabbed, killed, beat on, and intimidated daily.

Here in Canada, do that the wrong person and HA would show up with tire irons, pit bulls and a big long agreement would take place and those immigrants would step in line!

a reply to: tikbalang

I believe this is a good thing. Certainly should do this aross the world. Brainwashig people via religion is very bad indeed... especially when it involves killing inocents in the name the GOD the are being taught about.