Biggest earthquake in 50 years 'to hit US' after 10-day reign of terror tremors

originally posted by: Mianeye
a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

Cali gets ten or more a day, so not sure where they get the ten over 10 days from.

Take a look at RSOE, zoom in on California, that's what it looks like every day more or less.

RSOE

But, sure a big one will hit one day, might be tomorrow or next year, so they are right in a way.

Alaska and Greece are worse on the average

a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist
I figure they mean in 10 days from the post of the story. So on June 27th or some where between we should have a big earthquake on the West coast.

I've been keeping an eye on the activity maps for a while now. We are have a good number of earthquakes on the Southern coast of CA. But it's a lot of little quakes. As long as we're seeing some activity I feel fine it's when we don't get anything for a while that I worry. This only applies to earthquakes though, volcanic activity it's the other way around more activity worries me.

If the "BIG One" does hit the West coast it'll be pretty bad if it's anything over a 9 on the scale. The west coast will most likely be in a panic state till the end of winter. With all the heat from the weather and all the ruffled feathers already from the coming election. It wouldn't take much to push it over the edge.

It is my understanding that predicting earthquakes can be done to a degree, but that is not my field so I couldn't tell you. I wouldn't put much stock in it without at least conducting some research. And by the way comparing forecasting earthquakes to weather is apples and oranges.

Respectfully, as a legitimate meteorologist with more than 20 years experience with two Bachelors of Science and a Masters of Science from Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, (with experience in space weather, tropical, streamlining, severe in Tornado Ally for 6 years, long-range bomber planning, ISR, and of course combat weather) I can predict the weather very well, thank you. In fact I've received numerous awards including the illustrious Dodson (TWICE) and I can show documentation for forecasting with better than 95% accuracy on long term forecasts (for over 12 months) and in locations that boast ZERO input data from which to build a reliable model. In other words, there was no model, just climatology and metsat.

I'm asking nicely, please stop underestimating the ability of most good forecasters based on the clowns they put on TV. Mind you even they have to dumb down their forecasts for the sheep.

Please and Thank you.

Jax


a reply to: Krazysh0t

a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

Japan plate boundaries are of Subduction type, US central and southern west coast are primarily stike-slip variety. Its impossible to have as powerful a quake here as 2011 Japan.

Nice try UK news quake 'experts'.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

That's not what I've read about Oklahoma and other places, but okay.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: UnBreakable

Yea something like that. It's gotten to be a tired song and dance. Especially from the fools who still think that California could possibly break off and sink into the ocean (The San Andreas fault line is the wrong type of fault line for that to happen)

Yes well many smart people have been called fools until they are proved right.

There are many things beside the San Andreas to take into account. The center of Ca is a trough if it were filled the outer area left would be islands and Ca would be in the sea. There are other faults The San Joaquin Fault is a notable seismic feature of the Central Valley. The sutter buttes and other features are not really understood.

"The flatness of the valley floor contrasts with the rugged hills or gentle mountains that are typical of most of California's terrain. The valley is thought to have originated below sea level as an offshore area depressed by subduction of the Farallon Plate into a trench further offshore. The San Joaquin Fault is a notable seismic feature of the Central Valley.
The flatness of the valley floor contrasts with the rugged hills or gentle mountains that are typical of most of California's terrain. The valley is thought to have originated below sea level as an offshore area depressed by subduction of the Farallon Plate into a trench further offshore. The San Joaquin Fault is a notable seismic feature of the Central Valley

The valley was later enclosed by the uplift of the Coast Ranges, with its original outlet into Monterey Bay. Faulting moved the Coast Ranges, and a new outlet developed near what is now San Francisco Bay. Over the millennia, the valley was filled by the sediments of these same ranges, as well as the rising Sierra Nevada to the east; that filling eventually created an extraordinary flatness just barely above sea level; before California's massive flood control and aqueduct system was built, the annual snow melt turned much of the valley into an inland sea."

The one notable exception to the flat valley floor is Sutter Buttes, the remnants of an extinct volcano just to the north west of Yuba City which is 44 miles (71 km) north of Sacramento.
Another significant geologic feature of the Central Valley lies hidden beneath the delta. The Stockton Arch is an upwarping of the crust beneath the valley sediments which extends southwest to northeast across the valley.

Now then, has anyone heard of Cascadia Rising?

www.fema.gov...

A 9.0 magnitude earthquake along the Cascadia Subduction Zone (CSZ) and the resulting tsunami is the most complex disaster scenario that emergency management and public safety officials in the Pacific Northwest could face. Cascadia Rising is an exercise to address that disaster.

June 7-10, 2016 Emergency Operations and Coordination Centers (EOC/ECCs) at all levels of government and the private sector will activate to conduct a simulated field response operation within their jurisdictions and with neighboring communities, state EOCs, FEMA, and major military commands.

Conducting successful life-saving and life-sustaining response operations in the aftermath of a Cascadia Subduction Zone disaster will hinge on the effective coordination and integration of governments at all levels – cities, counties, state agencies, federal officials, the military, tribal nations – as well as non-government organizations and the private sector. One of the primary goals of Cascadia Rising is to train and test this whole community approach to complex disaster operations together as a joint team.

I assure you we are a least a "little" more prepared than you think. Here is where I don't get most people. We exercise and you scream martial law or that we're planning a secret massacre, but if we don't plan, (or you don't KNOW about it because turns out you DON'T know everything) and we're setting the nation up to fail. As a first-responder, I deal in Emergency Management and Disaster Preparedness. (I want a heads up if the "S" is about to "HTF" too ya know...) SO I pay attention, like most folks here.

Deny Ignorance. Do some legit research on your own. Try to be unbiased. Be open to anything you might find. If you notice you keep seeing the same pattern over and over again, you're doing it wrong. Nothing is ever *that* cut and dry, and your sources are too much alike. Diversify, avoid sheep news, and I know it's hard but try some peer reviewed evidence. Lastly, if you are truly interested, devote more than a few cursory searches, devote a few days or a week to become familiar with the hot shots in the field, the terminology and what it means, and on-going research. We have some brilliant minds at ATS, with a lot of potential.

Want more info on conducting better? Start here: faculty.webster.edu...

Jax

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
Maybe if we increase fracking activity we can get this over with even sooner.

Fracking doesn't really cause earthquakes that are noticeable by humans. I'm not a fan of fracking either, but it is a lie to say that it causes significant earthquakes.
Geophysicist: Humans cause quakes, but fracking not main culprit

If you read your link you will see this makes little sense the main cause of the "noticeable" quakes are from wastewater that is largely from fracking.
www.waterworld.com...


Your source admits the quakes are caused by fracking wastewater injection. They only say the cause for most of the fracking quakes is the lubrication of faults by the injected water and not the injected "water and chems" themselves.

Oklahoma even eclipsed California for the number of magnitude 3 or higher earthquakes in 2014, Rubinstein said.

He credited Kansas and Oklahoma with taking steps to improve the earthquake situation. On March 19, 2015, Kansas changed the rules for high-rate disposal wells in areas that had experienced the most earthquakes in Harper and Sumner counties. After those rules went into effect, the number of earthquakes in the immediate area fell considerably.

a reply to: SeaWorthy

So sum it up, how does all of what you just said equal that CA can fall into the ocean at some point? At the end of the day, CA squishes up against the rest of the continent. It doesn't move away. So what exactly will cause it to change direction?

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: Krazysh0t

That's not what I've read about Oklahoma and other places, but okay.

Are you going to believe anecdotes or science? Your choice.

a reply to: SeaWorthy

I'm not following your logic. What doesn't make sense?

a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

The type of fault in California (one plate slipping past another) is not believed to be capable of creating as strong earthquakes as the type of fault responsible for the enormous quakes near Japan & Indonesia/Thailand (subduction zone).

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: SeaWorthy

So sum it up, how does all of what you just said equal that CA can fall into the ocean at some point? At the end of the day, CA squishes up against the rest of the continent. It doesn't move away. So what exactly will cause it to change direction?

Sinking is basically one way. Then there is the section at the Northern end Juan de Fuca Plate and possible drop in sea level there.

Ok... not sure how reliable 'The star' is

Ok. And I am not sure how reliable my 6 year old grandson is when he says he can hold his breath for twenty minutes.

a reply to: DAVID64

My thoughts exactly; this government couldn't handle much of anything like on that scale.

You forgot to add, "keep your weapons handy, and the last bullet for yourself".

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: SeaWorthy

I'm not following your logic. What doesn't make sense?

This

Fracking doesn't really cause earthquakes that are noticeable by humans.

originally posted by: SeaWorthy

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: SeaWorthy

So sum it up, how does all of what you just said equal that CA can fall into the ocean at some point? At the end of the day, CA squishes up against the rest of the continent. It doesn't move away. So what exactly will cause it to change direction?

Sinking is basically one way. Then there is the section at the Northern end Juan de Fuca Plate and possible drop in sea level there.

So you are suggesting that CA will subduct into the crust? You know such a thing won't happen all at once. It will take millions if not billions of years right? The doom porn theory is that a giant earthquake will fracture the connection between CA and the rest of the continental US causing it to float away in the Pacific. So something that will happen all at once.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: Krazysh0t

That's not what I've read about Oklahoma and other places, but okay.

Are you going to believe anecdotes or science? Your choice.

? it has been all over the science of it.

"Most geologists connect the spike in earthquakes to the state's oil and gas industry -- and its disposal of massive amounts of water into underground caverns.

So we produce oil and gas we have excess saltwater. We dispose it at depth, so it did not interfere with freshwater we are drinking," explained Geologist Todd Halihan who teaches at Oklahoma State. "Unfortunately, there is a side effect. Now we are generating seismicity due to the injection wells. These are pretty startling when your field them."
www.cbsnews.com...

"The USGS is currently studying seismicity that may be induced at 6 locations across the United States. These studies involve earthquake monitoring, examining industrial data, and evaluating any relationships between seismicity and industrial actions. Previous USGS studies have shown a strong connection in many locations between the deep injection of fluids and increased earthquake rates."
earthquake.usgs.gov...

originally posted by: SeaWorthy

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: SeaWorthy

I'm not following your logic. What doesn't make sense?

This
"Fracking doesn't really cause earthquakes that are noticeable by humans."

Magnitude / Intensity Comparison

I. Not felt except by a very few under especially favorable conditions.

II. Felt only by a few persons at rest, especially on upper floors of buildings.

1.0 - 3.0 I
3.0 - 3.9 II - III
4.0 - 4.9 IV - V
5.0 - 5.9 VI - VII
6.0 - 6.9 VII - IX
7.0 and higher VIII or higher

Still confused?

a reply to: Jaxsmash

Well, that's an interesting comment; and its nice to hear your prepared for a natural disaster.

I was in NOLA 6 days after Katrina...........I have to wonder how all your coordination, planning and preps are going to work in the major metro areas. All I can say from my experience is be sure to remember your bullet proof vests and bring stacks of body bags...............lots of body bags.