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originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn
I got about 2/3 of the way through the first video, and that's all I could take.
originally posted by: zazzafrazz
a reply to: butcherguy
come on BG, that's uncalled for.
Your "examples" are easily refuted when considering the purpose of them. None of them were designed with the specific purpose of killing. In fact they shouldn't even be called "guns" - more like non-lethal launchers.
This statement is false. There are guns used to do things other than destroy. If you need me to do so, I will post references to guns that do not destroy.
originally posted by: butcherguy
You think the poster seems like a nice person?
What have I done to them?
In Australia, we had the biggest massacre on earth, and the Australian government went: "That's it! NO MORE GUNS." And we all went, "Yeah, all right then, that seems fair enough, really."
Gun possession is seen, wrongly in my view and historically erroneously, as being some kind of fundamental right of the individual. The original intention was the right to maintain state militias. That's quite different, there was still this feeling growing out of the American Revolution that the naughty central government or some force would come and take away our rights
originally posted by: zazzafrazz
a reply to: butcherguy
I think you should rethink calling someone a mass murderer on ATS because you disagree on a point, it's pixels on a screen, chill out both of you lads.
originally posted by: Kryties
originally posted by: butcherguy
You think the poster seems like a nice person?
What have I done to them?
You called me a mass murderer for simply asking you to post the proof you offered to post.
That's all I did to you. Ask for proof.
Wow. Just.......wow.
originally posted by: shooterbrody
The history and cultures of the USA and Australia are so different I would not expect Australians to understand.
The 2nd is no more or less important than the 1st or any of the other amendments. We would not let out government or any other take any of those rights.
originally posted by: butcherguy
Please post evidence that i called you a mass murderer.
originally posted by: butcherguy
I am glad that they won't let you have a gun.
You seem like the type that would commit mass violence... like you are a mean person that likes to hurt others.
originally posted by: Kryties
originally posted by: butcherguy
Please post evidence that i called you a mass murderer.
Are you kidding? You HAVE to be kidding, no-one is that dense.
originally posted by: butcherguy
I am glad that they won't let you have a gun.
You seem like the type that would commit mass violence... like you are a mean person that likes to hurt others.
It was only on the last page mate. Nice try.
originally posted by: zazzafrazz
a reply to: butcherguy
Sigh~~~
I'll leave you to it, no point in trying to save someone from themselves.
originally posted by: butcherguy
Would you like to highlight where I even typed the word 'MURDERER'?
Nice try.
Would you like to post evidence that I called you a mass murderer?
That is what you blamed me for doing.
You have yet to show where I did.
originally posted by: zazzafrazz
a reply to: butcherguy
Sigh~~~
I'll leave you to it, no point in trying to save someone from themselves.
Then when you DID finally post some examples, none of them are relevant to the topic as they are all non-lethal and not actually guns.
This statement is false. There are guns used to do things other than destroy. If you need me to do so, I will post references to guns that do not destroy.
originally posted by: Kryties
originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn
I got about 2/3 of the way through the first video, and that's all I could take.
Watch the rest of the 2 videos. He refutes everything you say in the rest of your post.
originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: Kryties
I will post my original post about it... where I said not all guns are made to destroy.
My point is to post examples of non lethal guns.
Are you drunk?
originally posted by: Klassified
I've watched all the anti-gun videos I can take. I've seen and read all of the arguments the anti-gun crowd has to offer.
I've spent my time in these threads over the years. Seriously, I've tried to look at both sides of this debate with an open mind. After much thought, I respectfully disagree with those who think this is a step forward in social evolution.
But it really doesn't matter what I think. Disarming the U.S. citizenry IS going to happen. You folks will get what you want, and you'll find it doesn't stop there. Giving up rights is easy. Getting them back seldom happens.