Piers Morgan Feeling The Heat For Ali Comments, Fair or Not?

It seems Piers Morgan finds himself in the spotlight, perhaps unwillingly. Seems a tweet that just may have some truth to it has upset the usual suspects...

Piers Morgan poked the hornets’ nest Sunday when he highlighted a double standard among Muhammad Ali’s fans — that the late boxer espoused more radical views on race than Donald Trump.

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As you can see by the tweets and the videos in the link, Big mouth Piers does make a pretty good argument. The question is, is it fair to bring up everything about a well known and respected figure, good and bad, and let the world judge them on those merits?It seems that if you talk about a well respected figure, there are always some bugaboos involved. Ghandi, MLK, Ronald Reagan, Etc., it doesn't matter, they're human and have shortcomings and faults. So is Piers within the margin of error here? Is the outrage directed against him warranted?

a reply to: Arizonaguy I liked him better when he was Cacious Clay The Whole Bhudda or Mohammad or satan thing didnt sit well with me

a reply to: Arizonaguy



Yeah his tweet has been sparking some outrage alright. But that being said, is it politically correct not point any fingers? I think PM is sticking up to DJT after his "African American friend" comment the other day. Tit for tat...no?

a reply to: visitedbythem

Ali obviously continued to grow as a person over the course of his life. But there is no doubt that some comments made by him after his conversion to Islam would be seized upon today viciously, if he made them today.

a reply to: Arizonaguy

I don't remember Ali running for president on a hateful rhetoric ticket so why is Piers playing the race card?

a reply to: Skywatcher2011

That's my thinking...is it OK to point out everything about somebody before thinking their words are great. I'm sure some pretty bad people have said some pretty good words from time to time.

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: Arizonaguy

I don't remember Ali running for president on a hateful rhetoric ticket so why is Piers playing the race card?

I don't think Piers is playing the race card. I think he brings up a legitimate point, even if it is unintentionally done. It seems that the majority of the media slants things. Is it ok to bring up all the great things that leader A has done and put the bad things in a footnote, while bringing up every negative about leader b while putting the positive in a footnote?

Muslim is not a race card. Its a hate card/ You guys want to hear the story? My people? 1.5 Million raped and murdered.Why we fled? You want to hear about who Adolf Hitler looked up to? You want to hear who Adoplf Hitler followed and made his plans from? Is that what you want?

All you have to do is look up Louis Farrakhan's and Muhammad Ali's spiritual mentor, Mr. ELIJAH MUHAMMAD, and you'll know that Piers Morgan isn't making this up.

Reverend Jerimiah Wright, who was President Obama's pastor for a couple of decades, spews the same Anti-White rhetoric.

Not saying that any of them were/are wrong or right.. just posting facts.

a reply to: Arizonaguy

As I recall, when Ali converted and made these political statements there was a huge cry about it. They were not well accepted by the general public , Those that did not like what he said protested his words.

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: Arizonaguy

As I recall, when Ali converted and made these political statements there was a huge cry about it. They were not well accepted by the general public , Those that did not like what he said protested his words.

I wouldn't know. I was born in 1968 and the media was nothing like it is today when I was growing up. I do remember that the four biggest sports heroes of the day , as seen by a a child, were Ali, OJ, Bruce Jenner, and Pete Rose. That was in the mid 70s...so his remarks of a few years earlier didn't
destroy him

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: Arizonaguy

I don't remember Ali running for president on a hateful rhetoric ticket so why is Piers playing the race card?

What hateful rhetoric? I haven't heard any. Although there is plenty coming from the left these days.

But yeah, Malcolm X and Elijah Muhammad put some bad ideas into Cassius Clay's head.
Good for Morgan on pointing out that fact.

a reply to: Arizonaguy

Lemme see what was the times like for an Ali during his rise, Blks were being strung up by anyone who wanted to, like so many strange fruit swinging in the southern breeze with absolutely no repercussions, Ali himself had been refused service at a lousy diner after his Olympic victories which he naively believed would some how shield him from open contempt, the dogs and fire hoses were let loose on his people by official government for daring to think they could eat,sleep and sht where they wanted like other Americans, not to mentioned voting, churches were bombed or set on fire ppl died, the image of the Christian god that hung in many a homes and stained glass windows of Black churches looked suspiciously like the oppressors of his ppl, with verses like lord wash me whiter than snow, all this in an age where the blackman was viewed as less than in terms of being human...yeah I could see him retreating into Blackness as a positive reinforcement which would then be the polar opposite of Whiteness especially with in his brand of Islam, have he grown since then??.. yes he parted ways with the NOI and became mainstream Islamic and toned down the the racist rhetoric, but what attracted Blacks like myself as well as whites and others to him was his integrity which could not be bought even at the prospect of a ruined career and jail time in this he reminded me of Malcolm X .

I loved the thing between him and Howard Cosell..the first odd couple.

a reply to: Spider879


Spider879, despite the poor structure of your sentences and lack of paragraphs, you refreshed my memory of some Muhammad Ali remarks that I had forgotten about. Thanx!

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Spider879


Spider879, despite the poor structure of your sentences and lack of paragraphs, you refreshed my memory of some Muhammad Ali remarks that I had forgotten about. Thanx!

yeah, I do that at times..will try to do better.

a reply to: Swills

Hurr Durr Islam/Muslim is a race.

There's nothing hateful about wanting to make sure the people you let into your house don't want to kill you. When you can easily identify a certain group that contributes the most to terrorism, why would you want to let them into your house.

Illegal immigrants are illegal immigrants. "Who will pick the crops?". People with a freaking card that allows them to. They should be paid minimum wage for the state they work in.

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Go look at any map of conflicts around the world. Islam is the problem. Shout about Christian extremists, I agree, they suck too. Who is killing everyone? Who is terrorizing everyone? Where is it legal to throw a gay person off a building? Muslim countries.

You have to be a complete idiot to excuse Islam and pretend that migrants and refugees are going to suddenly going to see the liberal love light.

Islam is great! GO LIVE IN A COUNTRY THAT IS PREDOMINANTLY MUSLIM ASD COME BACK TO ME AFTER 6 MONTHS WHILE BROADCASTING YOU"RE FROM A WESTERN COUNTRY. Last girl that tried to wound up raped and killed.

How many muslims were killed in the US for being muslims last year? Muslims STONE women to DEATH when left to their own devices when a woman is raped.

Stop defending that religion. It's a cancer on the world.

We denounce other things, Christians, witch trials, Crusades... but apparently we aren't allowed to denounce Islam. Why? Because it's CURRENTLY a blight on the entire world?

Islam IS the religion of peace. But only In Western societies, where the majority aren't Muslims. Was it really just guns germs and steel?

Do yourself a favor, start looking up what Muslims in every country believe. They would kill you in a second. Gay? Dead. White? Dead. Christian? Dead. Look the wrong direction? Dead. No escort and you're a woman? Dead. Get raped by ten men that admit to it? Stoned to death. Dead. Fight back when beaten by your husband? Dead. You idiots are going out of your way to support a religion and belief system that goes against everything you believe in because you're too much of a candy ass to say "NO!" to another culture.

You can't be tolerant and tolerate Islam.

a reply to: Arizonaguy

I have just been listening to Ali's daughter discussing her father's passing and he will be buried next Friday. It would then appear Ali was not practicing any religion of late. If he was a full-on muslim he would have been buried within the first 24 hrs of death (EG, if he died AM, grave PM) to enable his guardian angel to take his soul to allah. But it will be close to one week before he is interned, which is very un-islamic. This must be of concern to many muslims around the world, unless he has received special dispensation from allah, which i doubt.

a reply to: Domo1

Couldn't save that for another thread? Lmao.
You must have been bursting sir.

a reply to: tommo39
We all know why he converted to islam. The war in Vietnam is over so why continue to practice it?
Maybe someone knocked some sense into him...

Could say he was a coward/treason, but I would have faked a religion to get out of war too, like many others. Oh and he wasn't the greatest. He was the greatest entertainer but not the best boxer of all time. Sugar ray Robinson is regarded as better.

originally posted by: GemmyMcGemJew
a reply to: tommo39
We all know why he converted to islam. The war in Vietnam is over so why continue to practice it?
Maybe someone knocked some sense into him...

Or maybe like so many others he just don't care about religious stuff anymore, plus with him being dead he can't do anything about his own burial.