Former Johns Hopkins Chief of Psychiatry Says Trans Movement is “Collaborating with Madness”

Put them transgender people outside of current society for 10 years.

They will forget their gender confusion and "be" what they are.

Being sensitive doesn't mean you are a girl, being non-sensitive doesn't mean you are a boy.

Calling another man "be a real man" is as stupid calling him "you 'woman' ". These are only statements by which someone wants to feel superior than another person. Such statements stem from trying to impress nearby women, and because we live in a society where everyone is each others enemy and competitor.

Specific women's clothes (skirts, high heels etc.) are fetishes and not the type of clothes people would usually wear. These fetishes were introduced by a certain agenda. Which this agenda also came the gender clichés (what behavior defines a "man" and a "woman").

Immature and psychically weak people will fall for these absurd clichés and fetishes by getting confused and doing transgender procedures. I don't mean this as an insult, but as a sad indicator, of what our society does to people. It also indicates that transgenderism is in fact madness, because these people gave in to the artificialities (which in turn also proves the disintegration of society).

Without all these psychopathic influences our social system puts upon people in their daily lives, they'll all get back being normal.

Thanks for reading.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: SomeDumbBroad

Moral of the story? Fact > Feeling

Moral of the story? Excuse.

That makes no sense at all.

This is just laughable anymore.

Edit - Let me clarify. The bickering over this ridiculous subject of people who just want to be someone else is ridiculous. I guess if my kid wants to be a goat he can. Ill teach him to have sex with other goats too since if hes a goat itd be sick for him to be with a human.

originally posted by: anotherdaytoday
Put them transgender people outside of current society for 10 years.

They will forget their gender confusion and "be" what they are.

Being sensitive doesn't mean you are a girl, being non-sensitive doesn't mean you are a boy.

Calling another man "be a real man" is as stupid calling him "you 'woman' ". These are only statements by which someone wants to feel superior than another person. Such statements stem from trying to impress nearby women, and because we live in a society where everyone is each others enemy and competitor.

Specific women's clothes (skirts, high heels etc.) are fetishes and not the type of clothes people would usually wear. These fetishes were introduced by a certain agenda. Which this agenda also came the gender clichés (what behavior defines a "man" and a "woman").

Immature and psychically weak people will fall for these absurd clichés and fetishes by getting confused and doing transgender procedures. I don't mean this as an insult, but as a sad indicator, of what our society does to people. It also indicates that transgenderism is in fact madness, because these people gave in to the artificialities (which in turn also proves the disintegration of society).

Without all these psychopathic influences our social system puts upon people in their daily lives, they'll all get back being normal.

Thanks for reading.

Actually, the outer appearance choices are driven by the inner feelings and lifetime conflicts that are experienced. What is relevant are biological factors and the studies conducted by medical doctors, not personal opinions.

The causes of gender dysphoria are not fully understood. Gender dysphoria was traditionally thought to be a psychiatric condition, which meant that its causes were believed to originate in the mind. This does not mean that gender dysphoria is a mental illness. However, recent studies have suggested that gender dysphoria may have biological causes associated with the development of gender identity before birth. More research is needed before the causes of gender dysphoria can be fully understood. Typical gender development Much of the development that determines your gender identity – that is, the gender that you feel yourself to be – happens in the womb (uterus). Your biological sex is determined by chromosomes. Chromosomes are the parts of a cell that contain genes (units of genetic material that determine your characteristics). You have two sex chromosomes: one from your mother and one from your father. During early pregnancy, all unborn babies are female because only the female sex chromosome (the X chromosome), that is inherited from the mother, is active. At the eighth week of gestation, the sex chromosome that is inherited from the father becomes active, this can be either an X chromosome (female) or a Y chromosome (male). If the sex chromosome that is inherited from the father is X, the unborn baby (foetus) will continue to develop as female with a surge of female hormones. The female hormones work in harmony on the brain, gonads (sex organs), genitals and reproductive organs, so that the sex and gender are both female. If the sex chromosome that is inherited from the father is Y, the foetus will go on to develop as biologically male. The Y chromosome causes a surge of testosterone and other male hormones, which initiates the development of male characteristics, such as testes. The testosterone and other hormones work in harmony on the brain, gonads (sex organs) and genitals, so that the sex and gender are both male. Therefore, in most cases, a female baby has XX chromosomes and a male baby has XY chromosomes. Changes to gender development Gender development is complex and there are many possible variations that can cause feelings of a mismatch between a person’s biological sex and their gender identity.

www.healthexchange.org.uk...

Wicked is the way of Saturn.

If you have no noticed from November 23rd 2008 we are having a Pluto empowering Capricorn(Saturn ruled), the same time the last European Crisis take its begining and all music prodiced became outragesly grotesque in general. All Saturnian manners. So dont be surpirised if many things in the past and nex several years in the major scene look like one big Saturnalia. Its in the course of things.

originally posted by: GetHyped

originally posted by: WeAre0ne
a reply to: GetHyped

Speaking the truth does not make one a bigot.

You seem to confuse your personal opinions with "truth".

A very conceited world view, some might say. It takes a certain arrogance and lack of self-awareness to wrap your prejudice up as "fact".

The DSM literally contradicts you:

It is important to note that gender nonconformity is not in itself a mental disorder.

As the saying goes, 'Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.'

And just like assholes every once in a while they should be thoroughly examined.

a reply to: feedmemore

Well done for toppling that strawman.

a reply to: GetHyped

Seems to me it's already toppled.

a reply to: feedmemore

...because your argument is made out of straw. Well done!

a reply to: GetHyped

Lol exactly just like every argument on this forum. That is why it's laughable. Make sense? Thats why I threw the sarcasm into my statement. It's as retarded as what everyone else is saying...

originally posted by: anotherdaytoday
Put them transgender people outside of current society for 10 years.

They will forget their gender confusion and "be" what they are.

And what if they want to be a guy who wears female clothing and doesn't act like a typical guy? Society will label them as a transgender regardless of whether they label themselves that or not. Society does like to draw a distinction between males and females, but that doesn't make society as a whole insane. Honestly I'm not even sure what your argument is because you clearly don't like transgender people and you claim they must be mentally ill, yet you're saying there is no clear definition of a male and a female and we should just let people be what ever they want to be, which is exactly what most transgender people would say.

It also indicates that transgenderism is in fact madness, because these people gave in to the artificialities (which in turn also proves the disintegration of society).

Wait... so you're saying society as a whole is crazy because we have these artificial stereotypes for men and women, and transgender people are dumb because they fall for those stereotypes? How would one not fall into this trap? By being a completely neutral and sexless being with no personality? Or maybe a bisexual cross-dresser who likes to look feminine but sports a rugged beard at the same time? In some ironic way you are correct though, the way society treats gender as a binary thing is unhealthy and transgender people help show us it's not so binary.

originally posted by: Bybyots

Former Johns Hopkins Chief of Psychiatry Says Trans Movement is “Collaborating with Madness”

Caitlyn J. will "re-transition" and we will all dutifully find him to be Irresistibly handsome, applaud his bravery and weep openly.

We know what we're doing.

We should "collaborate with madness" at every opportunity. Collaborate with madness harder.

And this describes the reality of the madness we are right now living in so compact, eloquently and perfectly well we each should have been able to give you 10 stars for it. Bravo mah man.

originally posted by: everyone

originally posted by: Bybyots

Former Johns Hopkins Chief of Psychiatry Says Trans Movement is “Collaborating with Madness”

Caitlyn J. will "re-transition" and we will all dutifully find him to be Irresistibly handsome, applaud his bravery and weep openly.

We know what we're doing.

We should "collaborate with madness" at every opportunity. Collaborate with madness harder.

And this describes the reality of the madness we are right now living in so compact, eloquently and perfectly well we each should have been able to give you 10 stars for it. Bravo mah man.

This outlook is unfair as you are casting a broad stroke for all in using one person's lifetime of conflicting experiences. Shame on you.

From the OP

He went on to note that people who promote sexual reassignment surgery are conspiring with and promoting a mental disorder and only hurting the individual.

At about 1:45 they talk about her being originally a boy and she is Transgender too.
Society should be helping and supporting the mentally ill, but promoting and encouraging it is insanity in itself.
Enabling for tolerance and compassion sake at it's very worst.

It's like buying/giving a drink to a former alcoholic, and you don't know he/she was, but you think your showing hospitality to that person, you mean well, and they don't say no either. The world is paving the way with good intentions to help and be kind to people, but it's not leading to anywhere good. And the enablers don't know that yet, I am sad they don't understand, it's not helping civilization.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

Don't confuse a fetish with gender dysphoria. This person has gender dysphoria AND also happens to have a fetish. The two are mutually exclusive. Most people with gender dysphoria do not have obsessive fetishes. There are some cisgendered people who have obsessive fetishes.

I'm really confused as to how this "gender dysphoria" can be in the DSM and be diagnosed (both sides recognize there is a diagnosis...am I wrong?) and that for some reason this is not a mental health issue....

Dysphoria alone is characterized as

state of dissatisfaction, anxiety,restlessness, or fidgeting.

So... What's the confusion on the mental disorder thing?

a reply to: SomeDumbBroad

Because the DSM states:

It is important to note that gender nonconformity is not in itself a mental disorder.

www.dsm5.org...

originally posted by: GetHyped
a reply to: SomeDumbBroad

Because the DSM states:

It is important to note that gender nonconformity is not in itself a mental disorder.

www.dsm5.org...

Nonconformity and Dysphoria are two separate terms

a reply to: GetHyped

Also this comes from your link:

To get insurance coverage for the medical treatments, individuals need a diagnosis. The Sexual
and Gender Identity Disorders Work Group was concerned that removing the condition as a psychiatric
diagnosis—as some had suggested—would jeopardize access to care.

Part of removing stigma is about choosing the right words. Replacing “disorder” with “dysphoria” in the
diagnostic label is not only more appropriate and consistent with familiar clinical sexology terminology,
it also removes the connotation that the patient is “disordered.”

Ultimately, the changes regarding gender dysphoria in DSM-5 respect the individuals identified by offering
a diagnostic name that is more appropriate to the symptoms and behaviors they experience without
jeopardizing their access to effective treatment options.

The fact that the standard treatment involves changing the body to match the brain tells you that mental health professionals don't consider gender dysphoria itself a mental illness, because the treatment for mental illness involves trying to change the brain.

So if there is "nothing wrong" and not "mental disorder" why is it characterized with anxiety? Anxiety is a mental disorder...

There would be nothing to "diagnose" if something wasn't askew.