Glastonbury 2016: There's going to be a women-only venue called The Sisterhood

originally posted by: CynConcepts

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: InTheLight
No shame - just empowerment for these people to support each other without haters spewing their poison.

OOHHH......like he said. If this attitude is at the heart of the thing it should be seen as sexist, bigoted and exclusionary.

It is all about safety and having a private party.

Personally, I cannot imagine this private pity party to be a big hit. It is a festival...a social celebration! Why would I toss aside my equality and segregate myself from the festival? It actually seems degrading to women. It cries, 'We are too weak to walk equally among others!' I will not hide in 'safe places', I will walk amongst others and by my actions, show them I am equal. Talk is useless if the rest of the world are excluded from interactions.

Talk is not useless to them, they will sing and dance and become stronger for it.

a reply to: BrokedownChevy

What a worthless reply.. all ad-hominem and no substance. Care to comment on the cognitive dissonance or the double standard at play?

No, in my mind a white knight is a blubbering cowardly mess that thinks he'll get laid or looked upon favourably by being self-righteously indignant about women's issues. Hoping this will get him the attention he so desperately needs.

I have been reading up on the "manosphere" lately, I think they call them "beta orbiters". They'll be the ones orbiting good looking women offering them services, things like making them a sandwich or helping them move. Don't you have a sandwich to make? Maybe it'll get you a hug or a kiss on the cheek.

This is somewhat like your reply, a complete fabrication. You get to make up your own definitions of my terms and you get to define my views as well.. what a swell idea. Why didn't I think of that?

a reply to: InTheLight

Yeah right... you know you're dealing with strong women when they're so fragile they need their own places at a festival, in their universities and are offended by most everything, especially views they don't agree with.

No strong woman would ever need to be a feminist these days, a strong woman could handle herself without the religion of feminism telling her how oppressed she is, and how much she needs this and that. Only weak women are feminists.

From the point of view of a puppet master I think this safe space business is quite brilliant though. You get to isolate all of these minorities and you end up with an echo chamber that'll further strengthen their subjective views, that is also crucially devoid of any type of dissidence. I think hater in this context can be construed to mean someone that disagrees with them or is willing and able to poke holes in their victim narrative. Very cult like.

originally posted by: TheLaughingGod
a reply to: InTheLight

Yeah right... you know you're dealing with strong women when they're so fragile they need their own places at a festival, in their universities and are offended by most everything, especially views they don't agree with.

No strong woman would ever need to be a feminist these days, a strong woman could handle herself without the religion of feminism telling her how oppressed she is, and how much she needs this and that. Only weak women are feminists.

From the point of view of a puppet master I think this safe space business is quite brilliant though. You get to isolate all of these minorities and you end up with an echo chamber that'll further strengthen their subjective views, that is also crucially devoid of any type of dissidence. I think hater in this context can be construed to mean someone that disagrees with them or is willing and able to poke holes in their victim narrative. Very cult like.

Read about violence and hate against transgendered people, objectively, if you are able. Again, safety is a real concern and the support and celebration is where strength will be forged to move forward.

planettransgender.com...

www.huffingtonpost.com...

www.bustle.com...#!

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: CynConcepts

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: InTheLight
No shame - just empowerment for these people to support each other without haters spewing their poison.

OOHHH......like he said. If this attitude is at the heart of the thing it should be seen as sexist, bigoted and exclusionary.

It is all about safety and having a private party.

Personally, I cannot imagine this private pity party to be a big hit. It is a festival...a social celebration! Why would I toss aside my equality and segregate myself from the festival? It actually seems degrading to women. It cries, 'We are too weak to walk equally among others!' I will not hide in 'safe places', I will walk amongst others and by my actions, show them I am equal. Talk is useless if the rest of the world are excluded from interactions.

Talk is not useless to them, they will sing and dance and become stronger for it.

They may feel stronger within their isolated party, but guess what? The real world still awaits them outside their venue. Don't you think this actually emphasizes a victim mentality that they will carry with them in their future interactions? Strength is gained by facing challenges in life. By separating yourselves, no one else will ever take notice and recognize your equality either. Equality is gained through respect not condemnations.

Well, women only. That'll please the Muslim men who have been arguing for separation all these years.

a reply to: Morrad

This is contemporary apartheid. Shame on you.

A little over the top

I have to admit - I kinda sorta agree. I've always felt weird about women only art shows, women only anything

Having said that - I also get it. I'm not even going to get into any of that here in this thread, but yeah - I do so understand why

I'm pretty sure they'll let men in to listen though - so, think of it as a specialty act

:-)

originally posted by: CynConcepts

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: CynConcepts

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: InTheLight
No shame - just empowerment for these people to support each other without haters spewing their poison.

OOHHH......like he said. If this attitude is at the heart of the thing it should be seen as sexist, bigoted and exclusionary.

It is all about safety and having a private party.

Personally, I cannot imagine this private pity party to be a big hit. It is a festival...a social celebration! Why would I toss aside my equality and segregate myself from the festival? It actually seems degrading to women. It cries, 'We are too weak to walk equally among others!' I will not hide in 'safe places', I will walk amongst others and by my actions, show them I am equal. Talk is useless if the rest of the world are excluded from interactions.

Talk is not useless to them, they will sing and dance and become stronger for it.

They may feel stronger within their isolated party, but guess what? The real world still awaits them outside their venue. Don't you think this actually emphasizes a victim mentality that they will carry with them in their future interactions? Strength is gained by facing challenges in life. By separating yourselves, no one else will ever take notice and recognize your equality either. Equality is gained through respect not condemnations.

Strength is also gained through mutual support, respect and knowing they will be safe from violence (condemnation of violence) in their pursuit of equity and equality, so I say, let them have their music festival and diversity education in which they will learn the tools to challenge injustices. Anyone wishing to support them is free to join their cause online. The lack of respect and condemnation is blatent in their everyday lives from the many intolerant in our society.

Some men if they wish could utterly take the pee with this venue if they liked.

Put female clothes on and identify as a female. Simple.

Honestly I don't get the song and dance here. Actually I see it as opposite to what should be done and rather negative. Nobody should be descriminated against and all people should stand tall and proud regardless of who or what they are.

We want equal rights etc etc...

We want our own safe zone though lol, I'm actually highly offended and feel prejudiced against. Thankfully I won't be going to that overpriced malarky because I'd be overly tempted to exercise my rights and possibly dress up for the day.

a reply to: InTheLight

Meh, the law states is pretty well defined on discrimination and although I'm in agreement about intolerance and ignorance within society do you honestly thing an exclusive venue is the right way to go?

Many towns and cities have a "gay" night and I've heard gay friends mention it's a good thing and I have a gay friend who hates them simply because he finds it offensive maybe you can work out why?

To put it simply any work on rights and equality is wasted if it is not fully inclusive. On the contrary it can be downright offensive.

a reply to: 0zzymand0s

Oh, you must have missed the part where I said:

This is somewhat like your reply, a complete fabrication.

Still.. your outrage is clear, I think maybe I hit a nerve there.. Maybe you should take a class in reading comprehension before you make a fool out of yourself.

Want to comment on the double standard and the cognitive dissonance or is huffing and puffing the extent of your ability?

Your replies are devoid of substance, they never address the double standard at work and reek of spineless deference and sycophancy..

Did anyone besides you even mention alphas in this thread? I think maybe you got too many wedgies in school and are taking it out on people on the internet. No one here except you is talking about alphas. Is this some kind of default enemy of yours? Some kind of psychological complex of yours playing out? If you call me an alpha as some kind of an insult I'm gonna call you a mangina.

Shaming? As I suspected, this is the language of someone on the defensive, it speaks of someone caught up in a victim narrative. People aren't just disagreeing with you, they are actively shaming you. Pfft.. grow up, grow a pair.

a reply to: RAY1990

This festival is focussed on nurturing a sisterhood of support and diversity education for marginalized and discriminated groups and safety is a justified concern. There are many online places you can go to include yourself to help them fight injustice - inclusive all the way.

My gym has a women's only workout room, can you guess why?

And sandwiches will be unmade, all across the land. . . . .

I say let the ladies have their festival.

a reply to: InTheLight

No, I'm not gonna read some site called "planettransgender". I'm too used to feminists making up statistics, like 97% of all rapes go unpunished.

Violence is already illegal, I don't hear liberals complaining about the one sided nature of racial violence. You wanna know why? Because liberals are cowards and it's too politically incorrect. This compassion and concern is all fake, because it's selective. It makes you guys look good so you can sit there on your high horse and complain about others, but it's not intellectually honest and it's not really about equality. It's about selective equality, about highlighting the problems of certain minority groups but not others. It's exactly like the hypocrisy of feminists in Europe completely ignoring the rape culture of Islam. I'll take them seriously when the equality is more than selective and more than certain minority groups selfishly vying for position and influence.

I'll care about disproportional violence against the transgender community when liberals are intellectually consequent enough to talk about the disproportional rate of black on white violence.

Safety is a real concern for any white guy living with black people in the ghetto, I don't hear any faux concern for these whites that are brutally attacked on a daily basis. Try being a white guy at some majority black school, that's violence for you.

a reply to: InTheLight

Honestly?

Yes I can fully understand the why, attraction is a base instinct and to be honest I don't go to gyms but when I have outfits can be skimpy. Distractive is a nice way of putting it.

It still wouldn't stop a woman eyeballing another though and it doesn't address the issue of which I'm guessing is unwanted attention and potential harrassment.

Not all males are pond scum and women eye men up also. Do you know a key part of the body humans look at for
recognition? The groin area... it's involuntary. It doesn't instantly make every human a peeping Tom now does it?

a reply to: TheLaughingGod

You are free to start a thread and educate us on all the types of violence that only you care about; selective compassion.

But, again, they have a right to have a party and specialized educational venue geared to a marginalized group and they are free invite those who belong to that group. It's a private party not a political free-for-all rally.

a reply to: RAY1990

I believe a lack of understanding of knowing others' hardships, stigmas, and discrimination in life, or not having the interest and compassion to understand, will always keep some of us playing the blame game.

a reply to: InTheLight

Don't make assumptions: I'm a cold bastard, I don't care particularly for any of these victims of violence. I believe in karma, they all had it coming.

What I take issue with is the intellectual dishonesty of the left when they are this selective about the type of issues they care about. Their tolerance and compassion is selective and so is their wish for equality. This is enough to discredit them in my eyes.

And this is also why I don't take them seriously.

Me pointing out this double standard and this hypocrisy is not in any way shape or form evidence that my compassion(if I had any) is at all selective.

This would seem to be a great until if there weren't some disturbing motives for it. Are they going to talk about how women are actually oppressed and abused in Islamic regions (among all the other cultures that aren't western where women are privileged as much as men), or are they going to cry about how male doctors make more than female waitresses?