Glastonbury 2016: There's going to be a women-only venue called The Sisterhood

Named The Sisterhood, the spot will be hidden in the site's renowned Shangri-La area and is billed as an "intersectional, queer, trans and disability-inclusive space open to all people who identify as women. Described as a "revolutionary clubhouse," the venue's staff, performers, and security will all be women.

The producers of The Sisterhood believe that women-only spaces are necessary in a world that is still run by and designed to benefit mainly men," the venue's organisers said. "Oppression against women continues in various manifestations around the world today, in different cultural contexts.

Glastonbur y 2016: There's going to be a women-only venue called The Sisterhood

I am wondering how these women feel with a men only venue at Glastonbury. In my younger days it was always about the music. I don't have a problem with woman or trans*. I have a problem with segregation. Equality does not include segregation. This is contemporary apartheid. Shame on you.

No shame - just empowerment for these people to support each other without haters spewing their poison.

Maybe they just want a place where they can party and listen to music without being groped by dudebros?

honestly, these social justice warrior millennial parasites are killing everything. the more equality they want the more division they create. it's absurd.

originally posted by: PLAYERONE01
honestly, these social justice warrior millennial parasites are killing everything. the more equality they want the more division they create. it's absurd.

The discrimination they face is absurd.

a reply to: Morrad

The whole shtick of Glasto is quirkiness so whatever this 'Sisterhood' group thing is seems pretty standard - certainly not out of the ordinary for the festival.

Despite that, I reckon they'll 'niche' themselves into being totally irrelevant. Who pays all their money to hang out in some minuscule little girls-only venue? Reminds me of the old T-Shirt slogan - 'all I got was this T-shirt.' In this case, "I went to Glastonbury and all I did was hang out in a gated community." Waste of a good festival.

On the other hand, it's their money and they can isolate themselves to their heart's content.

a reply to: Morrad

"intersectional, queer, trans and disability-inclusive space open to all people who identify as women".

So much for equality.

I am wondering how these women feel with a men only venue at Glastonbury.

Well , that would obviously be sexist and not to be tolerated.

The sisterhood is also a place to learn and understand.

butterfly-sisterhood.tripod.com...

Alternatively, the pressures of the anomalous gender/anatomy signals can drive a person to suicide if they do not seek a medical correction of the condition. When one finds that one’s personal gender incongruency combines with an unrelenting societal insistence upon a properly gendered expression of behaviour, the enharmonics of the situation lead many to take their own lives. The hostile attitude of many in society often exacerbates the pain and suffering of those with HBS. There is often disbelief and hostility directed towards those who reveal their HBS, and there are those who believe that any medical correction of anatomy is contrary to all reason and good-sense. In addition, many elements in society treat anyone with a gender-ambiguous appearance badly. They target the gender-incongruous and subject them to verbal threats and harassment, physical intimidation and violence, and use discrimination and ostracism to isolate such individuals socially. This situation is harsh enough to deal with, but a loss of support from family networks and friends often compound it. What finally brings many to the brink of despair is the loss of employment that often accompanies societal rejection of the individual. This is why untreated HBS causes suicide. It is not the HBS, but the pressures surrounding it that can drive people over the edge.

They are supporting each other in an intolerant world.

Too bad they can't have something like that in Saudi Arabia, Tehran, or Baghdad.

a reply to: Morrad

This goes against the concept of wholeness which is the backbone, the central feature of festival life.

When you are at a festival, you are part of the festival. It lives in you, and in everyone around you, and everyone is part of it. The whole idea of a festival is to promote that oneness, that unity, by providing an atmosphere which pulls people together, by closeness, by shared circumstance, and by shared interests.

Be it a music festival, or a food festival, or a beer festival, the overarching theme is bringing people together in celebration of something. Now, we all know that many festivals are money making ventures, and therefore some will prefer to acquire VIP tickets, which come with certain perks not available to other festival goers. But outside the VIP section, the campsite and bar at least, the rest of the festival is the precise same for everyone. The mud, the booze, the close proximity of the crowd, the weather, the bands, and the price of a decent meal are the same for everyone there.

This thing at Glastonbury seems to go against the central principle of festival attendance, and I should know, because I have been a festival goer (although not to that hideous money bin of a festival) for over a decade. Festival time is my favourite time of the year. It's like my yearly holiday and a religious experience all wrapped up in one dirty, noisy, crazy, beautiful package. I love the fact that at festivals, anything can happen, and most everything DOES eventually. You might say I have a spirit deep understanding of festival life, and segregation under any pretext does not fit into it in the least.

originally posted by: angeldoll
Too bad they can't have something like that in Saudi Arabia, Tehran, or Baghdad.

Isn't it the same in principle...if not in spirit?

I mean, Saudi culture has segregated women from driving cars and accessing public locations without male relatives. They've ring-fenced much of their world to keep women out.

Hasn't the Sisterhood done the same thing in principle?

Is the Sisterhood characterising men as innately unsafe or hostile? Why shouldn't men be allowed to join in? A lot of men (most I'd say) agree with sexual equality and aren't afraid of trans or gay anything. Why keep them out? Is it a presumption of guilt based on...ahem...prejudice??

It doesn't bother me what they do. It does raise questions about prejudice and hypocrisy whether they like it or not.

a reply to: TrueBrit


The pretext here is that they want to celebrate and support each other, not have to deal with haters.


Read about injustice at every turn.

www.endtransdiscrimination.org...

Help me understand the dudebro argument, here.

Dudes be like, "we're missing out!" Of what, exactly?

Think of this is a YUUGE woman's restroom. Do you normally follow your dates into the bathroom when they all get up and go in, together? Why would you wantto go in here? Because that -- brothers, -- is "whats happening" at the woman's only space at Glastonbury.

She's in there with her friends, peeing and preening, --and talking about stuff you don't want to have to talk about, anyway. And they have a DJ. That is seriously what the dudes are "missing?"

You um, know that there's still a giant festival going on outside the fancy restroom, right?

Alphas my ass.

originally posted by: InTheLight
a reply to: TrueBrit

The pretext here is that they want to celebrate and support each other, not have to deal with haters.

a secret space for women to connect, network, share their stories, have fun and learn the best way to support each other in our global struggle to end oppression against women and all marginalised people, whilst showcasing the best and boldest female talent in the UK and beyond."

Seems more like a recruitment drive for an organisation with an anti-male agenda to me.
Are haters only male ?

a reply to: InTheLight

Are you suggesting that these 'groups' are frail to the point of requiring emotional and psychological support to attend a music festival?

originally posted by: gortex

originally posted by: InTheLight
a reply to: TrueBrit

The pretext here is that they want to celebrate and support each other, not have to deal with haters.

a secret space for women to connect, network, share their stories, have fun and learn the best way to support each other in our global struggle to end oppression against women and all marginalised people, whilst showcasing the best and boldest female talent in the UK and beyond."

Seems more like a recruitment drive for an organisation which an anti-male agenda to me.
Are haters only male ?

Haters be haters, they come in all flavours. I am sure their security at the festival (not to become a bash) will discern who's who. It may be by invitation only. It sounds like top notch entertainers will be there.

a reply to: Kandinsky

I'm seeing it as harmless. Camaraderie, whatever. A girl's club, a passing phase.

While the other is a way of life clearly geared toward oppressing and controlling women.

I think these girls just want to have fun and feel exclusive/special for a little while.

originally posted by: Morrad
a reply to: InTheLight

Are you suggesting that these 'groups' are frail to the point of requiring emotional and psychological support to attend a music festival?

Did you read this article. Live and learn about others' real life experiences in facing discrimination.

www.endtransdiscrimination.org...

I referred to the web site as a support and educational mechanism, the festival is a celebration and an extension of their mutual support.

a reply to: gortex

What anti-male agenda? You realize that most of these women are heterosexual females, right? You get that many of them are going home later to a boyfriend or husband that thinks the conversations going on in the men's restroom (and at the beer-barn) about "all the sluts" is funny AF?

And they still love us anyway.

Why in the world would you want in on that conversation? Would are you really missing, if you miss the chance to chit-chat about what a pathetic bunch of babies boys are, while listening to a terrific female artist sing about cultural oppression of girls in Somalia? Wouldn't you rather be out here with the dudes, watching ZZ Top or Muse do their thing?

a reply to: InTheLight

They need to go back to the kitchen where they belong amirite!!?? They need to stop making demands and asking for this stupid equality nonsense. Women...can't live with them, can't take their hard earned pay. Typical whining liberal, left wing, snowflake, SJW, anti Trump, pro socialist, HILLARY loving, climate change believing, etc etc etc (insert random label here).

And how dare you have your own opinion!