Pushing racial boundaries, Trump draws rebuke from a fretful GOP

a reply to: olaru12

Mmmmm, maybe you misunderstood me? Or maybe I'm misunderstanding you? I see Trump going on through to the general election, I just think he'll say ever more outrageous stuff to INSURE he loses. So the so-called GOP won't have to bring in anyone to fill his shoes this election cycle.

After this election cycle, I'd think the GOP is toast. The Trump faithful have no where to go; they're a dying minority of the population.

And therein lies a real conundrum I can't quite figure out. The "establishment" Republicans, the Rockefeller family, the Paul Ryan types are losing their voting base and are so close to moderate Democrats they might just as well become Democrats. The Tea Party/Trump set have nowhere to go and can't win a national election. And the intellectual Conservative wing of the Republican party is so small in number and has so few followers they'll never see the light of day, particularly going forward where intellectualism has been trampled by "feelings" and has been hijacked by the pseudo-Intellectualism of the Marxist left who have mastered the art of the Hegelian dialectic.

So this is how the Republic dies, not with a bang, but with a wimper.

originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: nwtrucker

I'm not getting into some pissing contest with you. Gingrich thinks Trump should dial it down. There are members on ATS who've voiced a preference for a whites-first program so these points stand.

That's what I thought. No valid rebut to my challenge to prove your allegations. Gingrich has nothing to do with your comments.

a reply to: JimiBlack


Yes, really. If you claim it doesn't exist, then perhaps you might consider looking at your views in a different light.

originally posted by: nwtrucker

originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: nwtrucker

I'm not getting into some pissing contest with you. Gingrich thinks Trump should dial it down. There are members on ATS who've voiced a preference for a whites-first program so these points stand.

Gingrich has nothing to do with your comments.

...and everything to do with the OP...and my comments.

a reply to: Kandinsky


What you seem to miss is we don't buy into the left's labelling of Trump. Neither has the majority of the republican base.

We know the left always falls back on the racist gambit when there is no logic-based rebuttal. It works with the hard core left and perhaps a few undecided. The remainder? They look at Hillary...

Your "some on ATS" comment equally applies to the left members as well when it comes to outrageous and outright false labels..... have a 'nice' day.

The judge is a liberal democrat who wants open borders, just happens to have Mexican parents ey but is part of La Rossa a latino only association for judges. Anyone else got the balls to say these kinds of things ? NOPE

remember when quail was humiliated by a simple spelling mistake ?

what have we become that this type of behavior from a candidate actually helps you ?

idiocracy is what we have become

originally posted by: MEDIKATED
The judge is a liberal democrat who wants open borders, just happens to have Mexican parents ey but is part of La Rossa a latino only association for judges. Anyone else got the balls to say these kinds of things ? NOPE

you are confusing balls with strategy. he is trying to distract form what the case is about, and making an excuse for losing the case.

does that sound like a leader to you ?

sounds like a teenager who forgot to take the garbage out to me

originally posted by: MEDIKATED
The judge is a liberal democrat who wants open borders, just happens to have Mexican parents ey but is part of La Rossa a latino only association for judges. Anyone else got the balls to say these kinds of things ? NOPE

No. Like always Trump and his supporters are changing the narrative to fit the occasion. Nothing you just said matters because "The Wall" isn't about keeping Mexican's out. It's about keeping Illegals, Rapists, Murderers and Drug Dealers out, remember???

This judge is an American of Mexican Decent. His Parents are Legal Immigrants. So like we're always being told, Legal Immigrants don't want Illegal Immigrants here either. So this Judge should be supporting Trump's Wall idea according what we've been told.

You can't just switch it around when ever you want.

This whole time people have been saying Trump's Wall is against the Mexican People and we get in response that it's not against the good and legal immigrants who come here just the rapists and bad Mexican people. Now all of a sudden anyone with Mexican Roots should automatically be seen as bias because of the wall. That's BS. You can't have it both ways.

Trump and all you supports are such liars and so full of bullsh*t and have so many double standards that it's almost impossible to keep up with them all.

@ MEDIKATED.....

la rossa? Did you just type La Rossa?

Yes. Yes, you did.

I am aghast at the cultural incompetence and language fault exhibited by you people.

How old are you? Like, 25?

And that inquiry goes out @Neo also - how old are you, man? Did you start off here as a greenhorn kid still wet behind the ears? Summer is here. Lots of kids out of school right now....

I'm excited to be able to help them navigate the crazy rapids that the US is experiencing now.

originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: JimiBlack


Yes, really. If you claim it doesn't exist, then perhaps you might consider looking at your views in a different light.

Nobody has catered to me. Wrong guy here.

a reply to: Profusion

The judge is a member of La Raza.

The GOP's share of minority voters has dropped in previous elections anyways, Don't kid yourself, no inroads have been made. African american and hispanic cultures do not really care about republican values and nothing is going to change that.

The better ploy which Trump has went for is to engage the large section of typical non-voting whites and to engage the blue collar whites who have lost their jobs due to manufacturing going offshore. And to engage blue collars whites who now have to compete against 10's of millions of immigrants in construction causing real wages to drop in the past 25 years.
He's playing to states like michigan and ohio. On the flipside he has a strong name recog in New York.

Democrats love identity politics, The GOP was bound to try it out. in-group preferences are taking over, It's what always happens when a country becomes multicultural. civic culture falls apart as everyone is too afraid that they are going to offend each other.

There is no point for the GOP to pander to cultures that are nothing like it. It's like a democrat trying to pander to a 60 year old farmer in nebraska.

originally posted by: TheBulk
a reply to: Profusion

The judge is a member of La Raza.

So what?? Mexican's and Latino's love Trump, remember?? He love's the Mexican People and they Love him, remember???

He has Mexican's and Latino's working in his hotels and casino's.

So why is this Judge any different???

a reply to: JimiBlack


Didn't say anyone did...don't know you. If you say so, fine. I have no reason to doubt you.

originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: JimiBlack


Didn't say anyone did...don't know you. If you say so, fine. I have no reason to doubt you.

I can respect that, man.

a reply to: JimiBlack



My daughter married a "Mendoza" out of Sinaloa. I have a granddaughter.....

Eventually, she kicked him out....LOL.

Look, I totally get that almost no immigrant has an easy time of it. Even tougher if Illegal. Please, PLEASE, understand that for the vast majority of us the issue isn't 'Mexicans', or Latinos, it's sovereignty.

Trump's issue with this judge is 'judicial activism'. That's NOT what our judges are supposed to do. Even commenting on it is vilified by those that don't see or want to see what this political correctness does to our ability to run a nation and take care of our borders.

That's where the pandering comes in. Not at the individual level, but at the political/social level....the cultural level.
In my opinion, it will, or is, destroying what was built in the first place and made this nation worth coming to...

Not those with political agenda that call us racist, or near racist, as this thread implies.

THEY have my contempt. Not the immigrant.