WA Schools to Teach Gender Identity Curriculum to Kindergarteners

a reply to: Gryphon66

And that's what Eric Holder's point was...

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German law requires all children to attend public or state-approved private schools. The Romeikes feared that the public school curriculum would “influence [their children] against Christian values.” A.R. 478. When the parents chose to homeschool their children, the government imposed fines for each unexcused absence. When the fines did not bring the Romeikes in line, the police went to the Romeikes’ house and escorted the children to school. That strategy worked—once.
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The Romeikes, among other Germans were being persecuted for their religious belief in home schooling their children to teach them Christian values, and the German... State decided to fine them multiple times, and when that didn't work they forcefully took the children to public school at least once. Isn't that persecution for religious practices?... and of course the State claiming they know better what and how to teach children?...

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

No, Holder's point was that there was nothing anti-religious about the 1918 German law against homeschooling; it applies to all Germans regardless of religious beliefs or affiliation.

Therefore the Romeikes were not fleeing religious repression, and therefore, under the terms of their application for asylum, they had misrepresented their case. This was confirmed by the Supreme Court's denial to hear the case.

So, now, Germany is out of the way, once again.

Do you care to back up your absurd claim that Americans are being jailed and fined for homeschooling or not?

Let me give you a hint. Facing the legal repercussions of ignoring the laws regarding homeschooling is not "being jailed and fined for homeschooling" but for ignoring the laws.

I thought I'd save us some time.

And then, perchance, you can tell us how all this pertains the the right of Washington state to set their educational standards, if it does, which I seriously doubt.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

Because there's no difference.
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Yes, there is a difference between state rights in which each state makes a decision, and State , as in the Federal State imposing it's will on the rest of the states...

BTW, stop making false claims, I have already shown several times I wasn't lying.

But the socialists/Marxists love to claim everyone but them lies... What's new?...

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Washington state is setting educational standards for its public school system.

Does Washingon state have a right to do that, or not?

The concept of States' Rights is simply that: that States within the United States are also sovereign within their own jurisdiction.

You were lying. You've misrepresented the facts, posted outdated information and claimed it was current, you've misquoted and misused other information, and that's what is called, by definition, lying.

I'm not a socialist or a Marxist. If you continue to make that claim, that's another lie.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

No, Holder's point was that there was nothing anti-religious about the 1918 German law against homeschooling; it applies to all Germans regardless of religious beliefs or affiliation.
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Not true, Gypsies and people who travel for work are exempt and can homeschool... Even then, since when is banning homeschooling not a right being infringed upon even if it was banned on everyone?...

What you are saying is that as long as the right of everyone is banned "it isn't persecution"... So in essence what Holder, and you are saying is that if homeschooling was banned to everyone tomorrow, then there is no persecution since the ban is being enforced on everyone... What a very twisted view, but normal for socialists and Marxists to believe...

Not surprised this is happening in Washington State. I live in Seattle, and seems transgender children are the new trend.

My girlfriend works in pediatric dentistry and tells me that every other kid that comes in is identifying as transgender. Seems a bit odd being the transgender population is supposedly so small.

My thoughts are that either Seattle just has a large population of transgender children, or every little boy that picks up a Barbie doll winds up in a dress the next day because it's the next trendy thing. If this is the case, it seems like a dangerous path.

Transgender might not be a new subject to some, but I'd imagine it's a new subject to most. I just believe a little more education for the adults is needed before it's given to the kids.

originally posted by: AntisocialAnxiety

My girlfriend works in pediatric dentistry and tells me that every other kid that comes in is identifying as transgender. Seems a bit odd being the transgender population is supposedly so small.

Really? Every other kid? I find that incredibly hard to believe. There may be a higher population of trans kids due to Seattle's more liberal environment. I know that Seattle passed a non-discrimination ordinance protecting transgender people back in 1999, so it's possible that parents with trans kids moved to a place where they felt their child would have some legal protections, and maybe even a community that would be more accepting.

But every other kid? Naaaah, I'm not believing that.

a reply to: kaylaluv

Confirmation bias would be my guess.

Anyway, a curriculum with gender identity in it for kindergartners is pointless.

originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn


Anyway, a curriculum with gender identity in it for kindergartners is pointless.

Mountain out of a molehill, in my opinion. It is a tiny part of a much larger health curriculum. Might even only have a day or two dedicated to talking about boys and girls out of the whole school year. But leave it to conservatives to blow the whole thing out of proportion.

a reply to: kaylaluv

Why would a more liberal environment mean more transgender kids if it's truly a genetic trait

Did you even re-read that one at all?

a reply to: onequestion

Did you read my post? I said parents may move there with their trans kid due to the more liberal and accepting environment.

Idiot.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Still talking about Germany because you have nothing to say about homeschooling being illegal in the US.

You should always question yourself when you type things like "so, what you are saying" because you're either about to attempt a strawman argument or you're going to try to put words in someone else's mouth.

You're still lying about me being a socialist and Marxist. You can't backup anything you've claimed, and homeschooling is not the subject here.

The subject is the educational standards which the OP, like you have done so many times, grossly misrepresented.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: everyone
Kids target each other for , having glasses, braces, the way they walk , the way they talk , . . .

And all that has been changing with new "no bully" school policies. Policies that expect kids to be nice to each other. Policies that expect kids to watch out for each other.

But, you probably want the bullying back.

I was bullied pretty badly in school, I was adhd got perfect grades but couldn't socialize worth a damn.

I didn't go home crying to my parents everyday because my parents would get drunk and beat the # out of me so you know what I did

Grew a set of balls and learned how to fight back

Man I hate to say it but we're raising a mentally and physically weak generation of children who won't and already aren't capable of competing with the kids of the rest of the world and confusing them about what sex they are isn't going to help

I'm sorry your feelings got hurt but so did everyone else's

"Bring back abuse in our schools (and at home) ... because that's what makes kids stronger and keeps America great!"

Stunning.

a reply to: Gryphon66

That's.obviously.not the point of the post the point is catering to everyone's each and every insecurity is ridiculous . At some point people need to toughen up and stop expecting the world around them to bend to their insecurity and own it and this everybody wins and catering and pandering to 5 year olds instead of preparing them for a tough and highly competitive marketplace and adult world is in itself naive

This is what we should be teaching these kids not everybody is going to win, not life is this wonderful play or movie.

The world is tough everybody doesnt win there arent safe space your going to feel insecure your going to get bullied life isnt this disney land fantasy movie and its time to toughen up and own whats happening.

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Gryphon66

That's.obviously.not the point of the post the point is catering to everyone's each and every insecurity is ridiculous . At some point people need to toughen up and stop expecting the world around them to bend to their insecurity and own it and this everybody wins and catering and pandering to 5 year olds instead of preparing them for a tough and highly competitive marketplace and adult world is in itself naive

See that's just it... the 5 year olds probably don't even care. It's the parents pushing the agenda.

a reply to: SomeDumbBroad

were pandering to children instead of raising children

its real simple your feelings WILL get hurt, its going to happen and its going to happen a lot

learn how to deal with it and learn how to become confident in yourself and own your feelings, stop letting other people control how you feel and control your emotions thats what we need to be teaching

not some weak minded victim mentality and about safe spaces and snowflake syndrome.

a reply to: onequestion

Yeah, this is what we should have been telling African Americans in the South during Jim Crow laws! Don't do anything about it. Life is tough - sometimes you just have to sit at the back of the bus. Sometimes you don't get to go to the same bathroom as the whites. Sometimes, you're just gonna get lynched for being black. Deal with it.

a reply to: onequestion

Oh i agree... kids will be mean for no reason. They will pick on things about you like your shoe size or your hair color or glasses. How about we just tell them to be nice to everyone without needing a REASON to be nice. If we teach these ideas to kids who don't even know about themselves, wouldn't that be creating an agenda rather than letting kids be kids?