'X' removed From Windows 10 Update, Nagware causes potential disaster in remotest Africa

originally posted by: ArMaP
From what I have seen, computers with Home versions have different ways of reacting to the update, as my sister's computer has Windows 7 Professional and she just ignores the update screen, while this week, at the company I work, we got three clients with automatic upgrades, and one of them apparently complained about the X not meaning "No".

What's a fact is that closing a dialogue box by clicking the "X" was never meant as answering "No" or "Cancel", it's an ambiguous answer, so it's not surprise they removed it from the dialogue box now.

PS: I have been running Windows 10 on my home computer since August 2015 and got the first big update last weekend, and it not only solved the only problem I had (more than 1040 items on the start menu would make the start menu show only a handful of items) but it's also faster.

So basically you're saying you have no problems with Windows 10 because you actually WANTED Windows 10, and thus, you didn't feel forced into it?

That's fine for you but it's no help at all to all the people who didn't want it and were ambushed by the automatic "upgrade". MS CLEARLY has been shady with the way they've handled this.

Now for some reason I have never had automatic updates enabled. I always made it a point to turn them off instantly when I would install the OS and I would go through the updates carefully and choose the ones I wanted. But no one should have had to turn their automatic updates off to keep MS from forcing an entirely different OS onto their computer silently in the middle of the night. That was just messed up and they knew exactly what they were doing.

Those people whose computers have been screwed up because of this (especially people who are not that savvy) have had major problems because of this and MS just plain doesn't give a damn about them. Inexcusable.

originally posted by: BrianFlanders
So basically you're saying you have no problems with Windows 10 because you actually WANTED Windows 10, and thus, you didn't feel forced into it?

I suppose you missed what I said about my sister's computer. It has Windows 7 and she doesn't want to upgrade and she hasn't been forced to any thing.

Those people whose computers have been screwed up because of this (especially people who are not that savvy) have had major problems because of this and MS just plain doesn't give a damn about them. Inexcusable.

I suppose MS will see it as a bad idea when (if) they start getting the lawsuits against them.

I'm sure there are plenty of loopholes in their EULA, so I doubt any lawsuit will stick.

It's worse for businesses that have to use automatic update for example.. not a good thing when a bunch of your userbase suddenly ends up with an OS that several of your applications won't support or run under. I've never seen MS push an OS as hard as they are pushing this one. It is bordering on malware.

a reply to: Aldakoopa

It isn't a conspiracy. It's just business. Microsoft wants everyone on Windows 10 because they will make more money from the upgrades. Wait. Upgrade is free, you say? Yes, the upgrade is free. However, it introduces new features to Windows 7 and later users—namely the app store.

Microsoft stole this idea from Apple and they're running with it. They think micro-transactions will make them more money and they're probably right. Personally, I run Windows 10. It's fine. The sky hasn't fallen, but I CHOSE to upgrade. It's not cool for Microsoft to force this upgrade on anyone. If you want to run XP, 2000, ME, 98, or 95, you should be able to... in my opinion.

But we all give Microsoft power when we agree to purchase their stuff... you could always switch over to Linux or Mac. I use all 3 (Windows, Linux, and Mac OS). If you want, check out Ubuntu Linux. It's my favorite distro and very easy to use.

originally posted by: DarkATi
a reply to: Aldakoopa
But we all give Microsoft power when we agree to purchase their stuff... you could always switch over to Linux or Mac. I use all 3 (Windows, Linux, and Mac OS). If you want, check out Ubuntu Linux. It's my favorite distro and very easy to use.

Again,I disagree with that. Ubuntu (and other such "user-friendly" distros) are somewhat OK for the average user until they try to do something on Linux that isn't easy to do on Linux. For example. I use Firefox. It's my favorite browser and has been my only browser since probably 2006.

I was pleased to see that Firefox is the default browser in many Linux versions and it (almost) looks and runs exactly the same. But there can be some bewildering snags here and there. First of all, I was running Windows and had the latest version of Firefox installed on my system. I watch a lot of Youtube so I know exactly how Youtube runs on Firefox under Windows.

I decided to give Mint or Ubuntu a try. I installed it and set up Firefox with exactly the same extensions as I use in Windows and Youtube playback was an absolute mess. I started doing some intense digging and found out there were some things in about:config that are not enabled (or even present) on the Linux version and many youtube videos would not play right until the about:config settings were changed. This is way beyond something the average user is comfortable with or used to doing just to watch Youtube. It's already done for you in the Windows version. They have probably changed it by now so the Linux version works like it should but they should not have shipped a version of Firefox that wouldn't play a Youtube video when they know Firefox is the default web browser in those basic versions.

It's always just little things like that with Linux. It might not be a huge deal if you know what you're doing but it's like hitting a brick wall if you're a newbie. It's just turning people off.

originally posted by: Wolfenz
Windows 98 ( Laptop) Windows XP SP2 ( Laptop ) Windows Xp SP3 ( my most Used Desk Top )
Windows 7 ( newer Desk Top ) Windows 8,1 Newest ( Desk Top )


Does anyone I still Have Dos 3.0 Does 5.0 Dos 6.22. Windows 1.0 LOL Windows 3.0 , Windows 3.11, Windows 95
Windows 2000 Windows NT Linux Various Versions, Lindows , my Favorite Zorin x ,
Apple OS 9 & OS x ..

Somewhere in the deep dark depths of my loft there is a rig that takes them huge floppy disks about the size of a tea plate lol no idea of op system but I'm guessing mid-late dos/very early windows? might have to have a rummage around and have a play, I miss all the crazy noises old pc's made during normal use, so noisy, they were like hammer drills compared to modern machines
also got a com64 somewhere, might be in my mums loft its been about 25+ years since I used it last

I work in the computer industry and I have heard numerous horror stories about people thinking they were closing the window and then it going ahead and installing Windows 10 and causing all kinds of issues. The nagging is ridiculous and unnecessary. It's generally a good practice to avoid new Microsoft OSes until the first service pack / major update. There's no reason to upgrade past Win7 at this point, unless you have a touchscreen or tablet and enjoy the cell phone style interface. I'll use Win10 eventually but not until the first major service pack drops and I am required to.

a reply to: Barcs

The first major update already came out in November (if I'm not mistaken, as I only got it some days ago).

a reply to: ArMaP

That's good, so it should be somewhat tolerable by now.

I'm just rather fond of my classic style interface. I can't stand the cell phone style tiles and having to search for almost everything. The system was great before Windows 8, no reason whatsoever for upgrade and overhaul with the UI, they just HAD to jump on the smartphone bandwagon, and surprise!!!! Windows 8 is now the new Vista.

Even though I'm bitter toward them, I love Microsoft because their # security and garbage design keeps the tech work coming in and keeps people like me employed. I just hated the way they forced that bogus Win8 interface on everybody with no start menu or even an option to turn it on at first. Now they are trying to force people to upgrade to 10 and using deception to do it. Windows 7 is perfectly fine as is. No need for an extra cell phone tile screen, there's this thing called a desktop. No need to search a screen with hundreds of apps on it, when you have a simple start menu that organizes each program in folders already so it's easy to find.

In the computer world things are supposed to get more convenient, not less convenient. Microsoft is still miles better than apple, but they seem to always rush their new OSes out before they are ready and as a result they have all these in between failure operating systems like Vista and Win8. Win7 is just a fixed Win Vista. Win10 is a fixed Win8. And don't even get me started on the ME failure.

Sorry about the rant haha, couldn't resist.

I posted it on another thread....but the GWX control panel will kill all Windows 10 nagware and tray icons for you.