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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
Thank God there are still ppl with common sense including the head of aclu in Georgia. Take That Progressives!!!!
originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
a reply to: Gryphon66
Well in that case Mr. Attitude...thank God that you won't be deciding whom my teenage daughters have to share a shower with or a sauna. Thank God there are people who at least try to find a fair and equal solution instead of f'ing over people just to claim victory.
originally posted by: Annee
FACTS: COLLEEN FRANCIS
Here’s what may not have not heard: The sauna area was off limits to the two teens.
Unless one specifically tries to see inside the sauna, you can’t view the people inside the sauna.
Colleen Francis AND her cisgender female friend were using the sauna together. They were sitting there talking. At no point did Francis act to expose herself to children. At no point was Francis walking around nude in the area where children were. So, the actual story is that two 17 year olds went into an area they weren’t allowed, attempted to view the people in the sauna and saw Francis. The rest of what you’ve probably heard about this incident is, at this point, an urban myth.
quote]
Here’s the nugget of truth to the story: two teens did claim to see Colleen Francis nude while in the Evergreen College sauna.
Here’s what may not have not heard: The sauna area was off limits to the two teens.
Unless one specifically tries to see inside the sauna, you can’t view the people inside the sauna.
Colleen Francis AND her cisgender female friend were using the sauna together. They were sitting there talking. At no point did Francis act to expose herself to children. At no point was Francis walking around nude in the area where children were. So, the actual story is that two 17 year olds went into an area they weren’t allowed, attempted to view the people in the sauna and saw Francis. The rest of what you’ve probably heard about this incident is, at this point, an urban myth.
www.transadvocate.com...
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: Freija
How about you try to understand the difference between race and gender identity? Two completely different topics?
and by the by, and once again, it was democrats who wanted to keep people segregated on the basis of race. So you are going off a tangent.
A white woman is not going to have a penis just for being white, and neither is a black woman. This is not an issue of segregation based on race, it is an issue that women do have a right to have a safe space when they use the restroom, or locker rooms.
The majority of women shouldn't have to be forced to deal with having men in their bathroom because 0.3% of the population, which are about 964,256 people want to, when about 1 in 3 women out of 163,280,761 women in the U.S. which makes it about 54,426,920 women have been sexually assaulted by men.
When a female black ACLU Lawyer like Trifecta Perfecta of the Liberal Ideal disagrees with them on ONE issue suddenly she's a traitor to their cause.
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
originally posted by: Gryphon66
You quoted some pdf from some class at a university that confused cross-dressers (transvestism, a fetish or in some cases a paraphilia) with gender identity.
You know that is not true.
When you post something you know isn't true, that's called a lie.
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Tsk, tsk, you obviously don't even know the truth...
This from a transgender website btw...
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Frequently Asked Questions
Are transgender people the same as gay/lesbian people?
No. Transgender is about gender identity and gender expression where as gay, lesbian, bisexual, and heterosexual/straight is about sexual orientation, which is emotional and physical attraction to others.
While transgender people are sometimes assumed to be gay or lesbian based on stereotypes about gay men and lesbians, the terms are not interchangeable. Transgender people also have a sexual orientation, just as everyone else in society, which can be heterosexual (straight), bisexual, or gay or lesbian.
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www.transpeoplespeak.org...
You are confusing gender identity with sexual orientation, they are not mutually inclusive. Just because a person sees himself as "a woman inside" doesn't mean that person is attracted to men.
Cross-dressers are transgender.
What is a Crossdresser?
"Crossdresser", "Transvestite" or "Transgendered Person" are terms used to describe a person who regularly takes on the appearance of the opposite sex in order to satisfy a deep personal need.
We use and prefer the term "Crossdresser" as it is less limited and coloured by common usage.
Above all, however, a Crossdresser is a real person.
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www.gendercentre.org.au...
Here, from another transgender website...
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A crossdresser is someone who enjoys dressing as a member of the gender "opposite" from their birth gender, but has no desire to change their sex permanently. Crossdressing is one form of being transgendered.
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This information is provided by:
The International Foundation for Gender Education
a 501(c)3 non-profit organization serving the transgender community
P.O.Box 229, Waltham, MA 02454-0229
Tel:781-899-2212 Fax:781-899-5703
E-Mail: [email protected]
www.ifge.org...
So, again my statement stands as the truth, the large majority of transgender people are attracted to women because the largest subgroup of transgenders are cross dressers.
originally posted by: LordDraconia
originally posted by: Annee
FACTS: COLLEEN FRANCIS
Remember, the original article was from FOX Entertainment.
Here’s the nugget of truth to the story: two teens did claim to see Colleen Francis nude while in the Evergreen College sauna.
Here’s what may not have not heard: The sauna area was off limits to the two teens.
Unless one specifically tries to see inside the sauna, you can’t view the people inside the sauna.
Colleen Francis AND her cisgender female friend were using the sauna together. They were sitting there talking. At no point did Francis act to expose herself to children. At no point was Francis walking around nude in the area where children were. So, the actual story is that two 17 year olds went into an area they weren’t allowed, attempted to view the people in the sauna and saw Francis. The rest of what you’ve probably heard about this incident is, at this point, an urban myth.
Here’s the nugget of truth to the story: two teens did claim to see Colleen Francis nude while in the Evergreen College sauna.
Here’s what may not have not heard: The sauna area was off limits to the two teens.
Unless one specifically tries to see inside the sauna, you can’t view the people inside the sauna.
Colleen Francis AND her cisgender female friend were using the sauna together. They were sitting there talking. At no point did Francis act to expose herself to children. At no point was Francis walking around nude in the area where children were. So, the actual story is that two 17 year olds went into an area they weren’t allowed, attempted to view the people in the sauna and saw Francis. The rest of what you’ve probably heard about this incident is, at this point, an urban myth.
www.transadvocate.com...
Hmmm I did not know that. So I guess he wasn't just strutting around scratching his sack like I had assumed lol.
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: LordDraconia
originally posted by: Annee
FACTS: COLLEEN FRANCIS
Remember, the original article was from FOX Entertainment.
Here’s the nugget of truth to the story: two teens did claim to see Colleen Francis nude while in the Evergreen College sauna.
Here’s what may not have not heard: The sauna area was off limits to the two teens.
Unless one specifically tries to see inside the sauna, you can’t view the people inside the sauna.
Colleen Francis AND her cisgender female friend were using the sauna together. They were sitting there talking. At no point did Francis act to expose herself to children. At no point was Francis walking around nude in the area where children were. So, the actual story is that two 17 year olds went into an area they weren’t allowed, attempted to view the people in the sauna and saw Francis. The rest of what you’ve probably heard about this incident is, at this point, an urban myth.
Here’s the nugget of truth to the story: two teens did claim to see Colleen Francis nude while in the Evergreen College sauna.
Here’s what may not have not heard: The sauna area was off limits to the two teens.
Unless one specifically tries to see inside the sauna, you can’t view the people inside the sauna.
Colleen Francis AND her cisgender female friend were using the sauna together. They were sitting there talking. At no point did Francis act to expose herself to children. At no point was Francis walking around nude in the area where children were. So, the actual story is that two 17 year olds went into an area they weren’t allowed, attempted to view the people in the sauna and saw Francis. The rest of what you’ve probably heard about this incident is, at this point, an urban myth.
www.transadvocate.com...
Hmmm I did not know that. So I guess he wasn't just strutting around scratching his sack like I had assumed lol.
I have seen conservative media attempt to lie over another couple bathroom events.
You have also had 2 cases of really creepy looking guys chasing female lesbians out of the ladies room, because "they thought they were men in the ladies", 100% because of the NC law and media coverage.
There is also at least one case of a police officer chasing off a lesbian assuming it is a guy.
However I have seen newsmax totally propagandize one of those stories and pretend as if one of the creeps wasn't doing it in an attempt to enforce the law.
originally posted by: LordDraconia
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: LordDraconia
originally posted by: Annee
FACTS: COLLEEN FRANCIS
Remember, the original article was from FOX Entertainment.
Here’s the nugget of truth to the story: two teens did claim to see Colleen Francis nude while in the Evergreen College sauna.
Here’s what may not have not heard: The sauna area was off limits to the two teens.
Unless one specifically tries to see inside the sauna, you can’t view the people inside the sauna.
Colleen Francis AND her cisgender female friend were using the sauna together. They were sitting there talking. At no point did Francis act to expose herself to children. At no point was Francis walking around nude in the area where children were. So, the actual story is that two 17 year olds went into an area they weren’t allowed, attempted to view the people in the sauna and saw Francis. The rest of what you’ve probably heard about this incident is, at this point, an urban myth.
Here’s the nugget of truth to the story: two teens did claim to see Colleen Francis nude while in the Evergreen College sauna.
Here’s what may not have not heard: The sauna area was off limits to the two teens.
Unless one specifically tries to see inside the sauna, you can’t view the people inside the sauna.
Colleen Francis AND her cisgender female friend were using the sauna together. They were sitting there talking. At no point did Francis act to expose herself to children. At no point was Francis walking around nude in the area where children were. So, the actual story is that two 17 year olds went into an area they weren’t allowed, attempted to view the people in the sauna and saw Francis. The rest of what you’ve probably heard about this incident is, at this point, an urban myth.
www.transadvocate.com...
Hmmm I did not know that. So I guess he wasn't just strutting around scratching his sack like I had assumed lol.
I have seen conservative media attempt to lie over another couple bathroom events.
You have also had 2 cases of really creepy looking guys chasing female lesbians out of the ladies room, because "they thought they were men in the ladies", 100% because of the NC law and media coverage.
There is also at least one case of a police officer chasing off a lesbian assuming it is a guy.
However I have seen newsmax totally propagandize one of those stories and pretend as if one of the creeps wasn't doing it in an attempt to enforce the law.
Yep this is starting to look more and more like something they want us to focus on as a wedge issue to divide us. Draw all our attention off the real issues and turn us on each other. I get so tired of the medias antics and wish more people would catch on to them. I think we are finally reaching a critical mass and that is why they are trying to censor the internet to with Facebook and Twitter and the like's shenanigans. People want to censor the violent pictures in the ME years ago? "That's censorship we won't do that." Anti-US Rioters go crazy at a Trump rally? Off they go and censor everything and take down Bernie Sanders groups with over 50k members. They hate both outside candidates and I bet there will be more and more distractions between here and November who knows what they'll do next.
And to Spiramirabilis
"Do you think that because she's black, a woman, and a member of the ACLU, somehow her opinion on this is somehow more important than other opinions? I'm sure Fox does - and it seems so many of the other right leaning media outlets do too "
I don't put minorities or women or ACLU lawyers on pedestals but I would accuse the left of putting each of those on one. They try and say that people like her are everything right about America while crotchety old white males are everything wrong with America. So when Fox plays into it and says oh look there's a black person who doesn't hate us, they end up looking racist defending themselves from the racist attack the left has pinned on them for decades. I think there is nothing wrong about feeling afraid of having a surprise in the bathroom. If I walked in the bathroom and there were 3 women in the bathroom, I would have a hard time going and I'm a big guy so it's not like I'm afraid of them for that reason. It would just be awkward and weird. Fear does not equal Hate I think.
originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
I thought I would mention here that condi rice said at rnc one year her father was refused entree into the democrat party so he went to the republicans and that is how she came into the gop.
originally posted by: LordDraconia
I love how you provide facts and a variety of sources that we shouldn't just lump all trans people together and make assumptions about them like the left is doing with them and does with minorities. But in fact they are a varied hue of people and Gryphon's only response his to put his fingers in his ear and go "*lalala* I can't hear you you're sources are all lying us Liberals know everything about Transgenders they are all exactly as I tell you they areand there is 0 deviation from this! I know better then they are what they are."
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
A: She is not the head of the ACLU.. I don't know weather that is you are the article attempting the click bait, but it is very propagandaie...
B: this is the most obviously fake story I can imagaine....
Maya Dillard Smith
Executive Director at ACLU of Georgia
San Francisco Bay Area Government Administration
originally posted by: Annee
I thought you were smarter then to buy into ElectricUniverse's "Grab and Paste".
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originally posted by: Annee
He does not fully research his articles, or examine who is behind them. Or make sure they are current.
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
A: She is not the head of the ACLU.. I don't know weather that is you are the article attempting the click bait, but it is very propagandaie...
B: this is the most obviously fake story I can imagaine....
Wow... Had to be JoshuaCox... Seriously kid, you should learn how to make an argument instead of making false claims.
Maya Dillard Smith
Executive Director at ACLU of Georgia
San Francisco Bay Area Government Administration
www.linkedin.com...
i have just have to wonder who this person is coming out of nowhere and proclaiming people are lying, they are not presenting proof when proof is shown right in front of him...
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
A: She is not the head of the ACLU.. I don't know weather that is you are the article attempting the click bait, but it is very propagandaie...
B: this is the most obviously fake story I can imagaine....
Wow... Had to be JoshuaCox... Seriously kid, you should learn how to make an argument instead of making false claims.
Maya Dillard Smith
Executive Director at ACLU of Georgia
San Francisco Bay Area Government Administration
www.linkedin.com...
i have just have to wonder who this person is coming out of nowhere and proclaiming people are lying, they are not presenting proof when proof is shown right in front of him...
Everything 'wrong' in the world today is because of a tiny minority called the evil rich!
originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: gladtobehere
Hmmm, so 3 trannys with deep voices walked in the bathroom and the kids were frightened and scared for their safety? Did the trannys expose themselves or offer to buy the kids?
Why is this an issue?