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Watch what happens in Cali on Tuesday. When Clinton steals that primary it'll be so patently obvious that even the most ardent man hating Clinton supporter will cringe
I have a problem with the fair and square comment. It doesn't take a political insider to see the system was rigged against Bernie from the start. Everything from media coverage to the debate schedule to rules being changed at conventions was set up to benefit Hillary. Not to mention the almost insurmountable super delegates that pledged from Hillary right from the get go.
What you are asking is for millions of people to support someone that they really cannot stand.
I say let Sanders take it to the convention. Let him burn it down. It needs to change anyway. Both sides do. I feel about the same way with Trump. Sometimes you have to burn down a lot of trees to save the forest.
The question of who controls the presidency is salient in terms of gauging the potential damage wrought by bitter nomination contests. The out-parties — hungrier for the presidency than in-parties — tend to have a higher tolerance for ugly primary battles. On the other hand, incumbent presidents or heirs apparent (in this case, Clinton) who face stiff intra-party competition are more likely to lose. Senator Ted Kennedy's challenge of President Jimmy Carter in 1980 and Republican Pat Buchanan's challenge of President George H.W. Bush are but two examples of when the parties divided themselves to their own detriment since the modern nominating system got underway in 1972.
originally posted by: ladyinwaiting
a reply to: Terminal1
What you are asking is for millions of people to support someone that they really cannot stand.
Not really. I'm only asking for the party to unite, as the GOP has. (lol)
I say let Sanders take it to the convention. Let him burn it down. It needs to change anyway. Both sides do. I feel about the same way with Trump. Sometimes you have to burn down a lot of trees to save the forest.
I agree with your sentiments here, but we live in very dangerous times. I think an ounce of caution, is worth a pound of cure right now.
originally posted by: ladyinwaiting
Not really. I'm only asking for the party to unite, as the GOP has. (lol)
originally posted by: ladyinwaiting
originally posted by: ladyinwaiting
a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein
Two reasons.
1. It's giving the Presidency to Trump, which I really don't want.
2. Even if he were elected, he would be a lame duck from day one. Congress won't support any of his tenets. It would be the greatest exercise in futility the country has ever seen. Would it send a message? Of course, but that's about it.
originally posted by: ReprobateRaccoon
You see it as "the best way" to beat Trump. According to the polls I've read, the opposite is true.
Sanders v. Trump www.realclearpolitics.com...
Clinton v. Trump www.realclearpolitics.com...
FWIW, if the democrats shut out Bernie, many of his supporters (like me) will vote for the only non-establishment candidate left... Trump. Either way, Clinton and the democrats get hosed.
originally posted by: ladyinwaiting
a reply to: Grambler
I would offer you another glass of Kool-Aid, but I think you've drunk too much already.
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
originally posted by: ladyinwaiting
Not really. I'm only asking for the party to unite, as the GOP has. (lol)
If Democrats unite the way the GOP has, it will be fake (as the GOP's "unity" is) and doomed to fail (as the GOP is). I'm good with Bernie fighting all the way! It's his prerogative. And I don't think the party will suffer one bit. He has promised that if he loses, he will throw his full support behind Hillary.
And so will I. Not because I want her to be president, but because I don't want Trump.
But in the meantime... I'm Feelin' the Bern!