An open apologiy to ATS members

a reply to: Krakatoa

You should never apologize for calling out ignorance when it rears it's ugly head.

a reply to: Krakatoa
I've made it clear.
If you disagree, then that is your choice.

This thread was an honest apology for anything I may have posted that others might have taken offense to regarding my participation in the Mandela Effect threads. I apologize for that only, and not for this thread. If someone takes offense to an apology, I will not respond to them here. Please PM me if you have any issues.

Thanks.

a reply to: Krakatoa

They are treating it as a ghost story of sorts, and want to simply enjoy the suspense and mystery around following this for it's entertainment and mind-opening value.

Not strictly correct, most are talking about time shifts, parallel universes, etc.

So you're not really sorry, you juts want to discount them yet again by demeaning them in a pretty obvious way. Sorry no soup for you, back of the line.

"ghost story, entertainment value" yeah right

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

I respectfully disagree with you, and that was NOT (I repeat NOT) my intention here.

a reply to: Krakatoa

Please keep the ME details in those other threads. Frankly, I do not want to discuss it here.

Oh dear, you've had 2 or 3 backslaps, what do we discuss now...how sorry you are?,

THREAD CLOSED, the Op has apologised, move on, nothing to see here.

originally posted by: Krakatoa
a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

I respectfully disagree with you, and that was NOT (I repeat NOT) my intention here.

Clearly you have difficulties expressing yourself.

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight
Hahaha.

a reply to: Krakatoa

AS the other poster said, your research about the "fruit loops" and the tm issues was first class, why would it cause offence?

Have you been Mandela'd? Co-opted, or looking for a job for MSM? If you have been warned well then the best thing would have been to remain silent and not create this thread.

If not then I apologize to you in advance and lets close this thread...how about that?

Sounds like a non-apology apology to me. You're not "apologizing." You are criticizing. And you;re wasting our time and yours. Things like The Mandela Effect are what convinces other people that ATS is full of credulous people and not worth paying attention to.

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

I/eye have been/bean Mandela'd...I am out of/off here/hear...

Thank you/yoo all and I/eye apologize/apologise in advance/advanse

For those that do not believe my sincerity in this apology, I can only repeat.

I respectfully disagree with you, and that was NOT (I repeat NOT) my intention here.

I'm wondering What has prompted you to post a thread on your apology.......(are you getting hate mail or something ?? just kidding .....) ...........but regardless of what one believes on the ME topic.... it is refreshing to see someone step up and apologize on ATS for their behavior ,or posting ,that has affected others In a negative way.

I've posted in those threads once or twice. One time I shared in the incorrect memory the other time I remembered correctly.

It is a pretty disconcerting feeling when you find out something you and others you know remember the same thing the wrong way. Especially, when it's something that's not some distant childhood memory but something from less than 10 years ago. I'm not going to bring it up because I don't believe it's anything other than my own mistake, but I can definitely see the appeal in believing in an alternative time line. I've always liked time travel sci-fi and always get goosebumps at the idea of something altering time and changing the future.

It's a cool idea and fun to think about and i'd be open to believing it if something extremely conspicuous suddenly changed but....something tells me that's not likely to happen.

a reply to: Krakatoa
seems to me the mandela effect is ripe for purely empirical research... my memory vs yours supported or not by independent documentation. no reason for anger...i would think.

one of the byways would be that documentation proving mandela effect would be that the documentation would have to be retroactively changed. that would include the bible. e.g., debts debtors transgressors, etc.
that would raise the parallel universe argument.

this is a rabbit hole.

now proffering a rabbit hole might be frustrating...

That is big of you to apologize. To me personally, you are not one of the ones who I feel should be apologizing. You have always argued your perspective on it, maybe crossing the line a little (which human beings can,) but I never felt you were being outright mean. I enjoyed debating with you

You never waver on your outlook but I never waver on mine either. I have experienced it and I take the subject seriously. I also sympathize for others because it is a life changing phenomenon which shakes you to the core. Added to which, some people (not you in my opinion) are completely closed minded and hateful to them for simply discussing it, which they only do so that they can come to terms with it, make sense of it. The way such posts are written should be obvious that this is the case and that it is not some form of self-praise. I see that to you it seems like an indulgence in fantasy. That is because you do not believe it one iota. That is fine. But if this is how you see it, then there really is nothing for you to add to the conversation, am I right?

Again, you were one of the better critics, in my view, and posting this proves your good intentions

I have to say that I am disappointed in the replies to this thread, by both believers and naysayers alike. The author made this post to apologize if he/she crossed the line and hurt anyone's feelings, while still expressing that they do not believe in the Mandela Effect personally. Naysayers opposed this good and mature intent by stating that there is no such thing as being mean to people who are deluded from their perspective, which to me sounds a lot like Nazi logic (an extremist view that if someone promotes an idea which disturbs you they somehow cease being human.) As for the believers, Krakatoa has apologized, not changing his/her beliefs, but expressing sincere apology if anyone's feelings were hurt from being too blunt in any way. This is a mature and considerate gesture that should be rewarded, not punished.

There is so much snap judgement and bitterness in this world. I want no part of that.

originally posted by: Krakatoa
For those that do not believe my sincerity in this apology, I can only repeat.

I respectfully disagree with you, and that was NOT (I repeat NOT) my intention here.

As an observer on this scene I surmise that you seem to have a need to justify to yourself that what you put out as fare for this crowd was taken wrongly and that you still have a valid argument regardless. THAT is what, I believe, most of your detractors are sensing, that you cannot bow out gracefully except by making a oblique swipe at those that didn't care for your research, etc. and, thus, you are still triumphant in the halls of ATS.