Mitchel of Nostradamus: ( presumptive) Nominee would fall Assassinated or disabled in 2016?

The Peace of God to all that belong to the Light,
Dear Readers,

I think it is not wrong to consider that the so impacting decision of the State Department today to disclose an internal investigation, an auditory, that has exposed a lot of irregularities committed in the H. Clinton term marks what would be her political fall and possibly also the one of her husband.

C157 verse 4
the face anointed with milk and honey lies on the ground.

In that sense the verse 4 of C1.57 may have had since today full accomplishment, since anyway one of the presumptive nominees has fallen in incredible disgrace, in other words has become politically disabled to continue in the race for the white house.

It is not difficult to predict what will be the conclusion of the FBI investigation from what this internal auditory has found and established, even new violations were found, as for instance to have used mobile devices for communications without protection against cyber attacks and also that Hillary Clinton email private server was hacked in multiple occasions and she never reported nothing of that to the agency or any body else.

Please check:
www.nbcnews.com...

Since today report from the State department Mrs Clinton is facing an indictment from the Justice Department that is no longer just hypothetical, it corresponds to a pretty real violations to federal norms, so serious that even the State Department today has decided to separate responsibilities and try to protect at most the corporation name of the negligence of one functionary and her associates of the moment.

Pls check:
www.refinery29.com...

The movement of today also says a lot of what Hillary Clinton can expect from the Obama administration in this legal issue, that there is no going to be any maneuver to protect her or to acquit her or to pardon her. In this sense also a political agreement clearly has been broken, and the verse 2 of this quatrain has also entered in accomplishment

C1Q57 Verse 2
An agreement broken: lifting the face to heaven:

The State department auditory establish the official position not only of Secretary John F Kerry but also of the white house with respect to the emails gate. We are witnessing one of the great political fiasco in History, a campaign that was destined since the beginning to fail dramatically, the end of not only one political career by the way since Bill Clinton is going by sure to pay also a so high political cost of all this scandal.

Pls check:
www.theguardian.com...

We need to wait for what is going to be the final outcome of this Presidential election to see if verses 1 and 3 also become accomplished, if they correspond the same person or different ones , but at least half of the prediction of this quatrain seems to have entered in process of definitive achievement since today.

I don't know of any historic precedent of somebody that can continue toward the white house after to be found guilty of negligence in to carry out a so important public office, so I think is unlikely that in spite of all what Hillary Clinton campaign is saying they can surpass successfully the effect this so devastating report.

Thanks for your attention,

The Angel of Lightness

The Peace of God for all that belong to the Light,
( I am so sorry Mrs Clinton you are not anymore in the Light)
Dear Readers

Today the country has awakening with an avalanche of information in the International and national media and press about the new political scenarios that the debacle of H. Clinton is opening in this so messed Presidential election.

There is consensus that we are witnessing a definitive fall of who seemed to be the presumptive Democratic Nominee, that after the State department internal auditory report became politically disabled to continue in campaign, since it is easy to predict that the FBI criminal probe will be also against her and it is likely that this can end with her indicted by several charges.

Please Check:

observer.com...

Observer, News and Politics May 27th 2016: That all fell apart yesterday with the release of the long-anticipated State Department Inspector General’s special report on how Foggy Bottom handles email records and cybersecurity. A shoe has dropped for Team Clinton—a very big shoe—and there will be no going back now.

It can charitably be termed scathing, and it leaves no doubt that Team Clinton has lied flagrantly to the public about Email Gate for more than a year.

It seems that the only person in America that today still think that Clinton is continuing on race to the white house is probably her, for all the political experts, as well as for the press analysts her game is over, she lied along years and then she is going to face consequences.

In a last desperate attempt to continue covering with a smog curtain the so shocking truth, Clinton is now even clearly contradicting and defying the statements of the Inspector General of the State Department, in what appears as an episode of political panic attack.

m.kwch.com...

Even the two other running campaigns of Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders have already agreed that they two would go in to a TV debate, even if Clinton decides to don't go to it, something that marks a so clear precedent that both political leaders have understood perfectly that the fall of Clinton is unavoidable, the political nightmare she is experiencing is so strong that there will not be way for her to get the nomination, and that the Election is likely that will be among them in November.

www.nytimes.com...

“I’d love to debate Bernie,” Mr. Trump said. “He’s a dream.”

Sean Spicer, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee told CNN on Thursday that a debate between Mr. Trump and Mr. Sanders would be “phenomenal.”

Hillary Clinton believes that the damage she is suffering will be less if she does not go into such debate, but the truth is that when ever a candidate denied the people to hear him or her the final outcome becomes negative, Trump experienced that before when he lost Iowa Primary with Ted Cruz, after the decided to don't attend a TV debate.

Please check:
www.onenewspage.com...

Thanks for your attention,

The Angel of Lightness

a reply to: The angel of light

Mitchel of Nostradamus: ( presumptive) Nominee would fall Assassinated or disabled in 2016?

Yep, will be injured to his left eye and out of running for the election.. Some how, some way he/she will return.

Oh man, can you imagine what an uproar it will cause to see this person addressing a crowd with an eye-patch on?

No, I don't share your opinion, She is not going to continue running like with a patch in her eye, she will loose the nomination, since
the FBI official report will conclude she is guilty and recommend to indict her to the Attorney general.

The way the General inspector of the State Department has presented his report suggest that they are trying to isolate Clinton of the current department administration, they are trying to minimize the possibility that the prosecutors can continue after John Kerry or President Obama whent they finished with Clinton.

I can assure you that as soon as Clinton become indicted due to these so grave several violations of the standards and policies of the State department the first thing the prosecutors are going to target are her political rights, in order to prevent her to continue running.

Espionage is really grave crime, as well as to have facilitated it committing all the omissions required to do so, and a person accused of it can loose her political rights. There is no patch to cure such kind of negligence, if it is proven that she allowed other non authorized parts to access classified information, as the general inspector suggest when he said she didn't report the hacker attacks to her server, she will be lost for ever.

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness

This one has been fulfilled for over 200 years, with the execution of King Louis XVI. He was indeed anointed with milk and honey at his coronation. The mouth of a victim of the guillotine's blade, does swim with blood.

If you've done any serious research of the existing works, then this should have been obvious to you. Now here's one you probably don't know of. Gen. Paul Maginot built the greatest forts, divided IIRC into seven segments, but in the end he falls victim to "the least at the wall". Its only a puzzle where you count down from the King on a chess board to the very smallest piece of the defense, which is a ground up clam or oyster shell, used in the mortar. Maginot liked oysters on the half shell, and died from eating a tainted one. Ergo, the least at the wall. Rolfe Boswell figured this out in his small and rare book about 1941. The French General who built the greatest fortifications, perished from bad oysters.

My point is that you at least have got to look through the previous works, in print, before you go and declare something as fact. I personally have found that these academic interpreters really do not understand that Nostradamus was being given the same series of visions that St. Malachi received in Rome, in the Tenth or Eleventh Century. Malachi homed in on the church, while Nosty followed French Royalty, through the French Revolution, and five Republics, on to its eventual restoration, which is still in our very troubled future.

a reply to: carpooler

Well, as far as I know Nostradamus worked hard in his life to have a normal Catholic life, he was a devote
parisher , attending mass every Sunday along all his adult life.

Of course, just only the fact that he was the grand son of converted Jews was enough to motivate the suspicions
of the Inquisition, and when he became a famous seer, due to the accomplishment of some of his predictions in
his own life span he was definitively victim of intolerance.

He looked for the protection of the Queen of France, that gave him privileged treatment along all her life, I am not
really sure that ever had republican points of view, to the contrary I believe he was always very respectful of the monarchy.

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness

To the Angel, I've got a pretty good library of Nosty Interpreters' works. But he didn't write for the academics. Before anything can make sense, you have to figure out the perspective he's communicating from. Malachi's perspective never wavered for nearly a thousand years. Its the elections of Popes in Rome. Nosty used differing perspectives, which need to be dis-constructed like taking pieces off of a chess board. "From the Greatest at the Walls of concrete", to "the least at the wall". He wrote one quatrain about his three daughters, " The three sisters " , after naming them as anagrams of a future male person's name. He wrote a verse about the "three brothers" after naming his three sons, in anagrams of another future male person. These are the kinds of codes that no academics can break, as they are genealogical.

Malachi saw the college of Cardinals, elevating one of their own to be a series of Popes. Nosty follows a family tree, far into the future. Local catastrophes are a good way for him to highlight these perspectives. You don't need to look any further than Pres. Obama visiting Hiroshima last week, to see the connections to the "Great Scourge" in two cities, never before seen by man, causing the victims to call out to their Great Shinto God, Emperor Hirohito, and their Shinto Saints, the 47 Ronin. Where the genealogy comes in is with the first Nuke, in Jan. 1943, off the New Jersey Coast. "By the Harbor, and in two cities". So, our military knew what was going to happen in Japan when we nuked their populated cities, twice over. Like in the legend of the 47 Ronin, these Black Dragons laid low for Isoruku (56) years, and then struck back at us in Sept. 2001. Isoruku is their number 56 and it is a Japanese boy's name, as it fits inside 47 making it a magic square.

a reply to: carpooler

Hi Dear carpooler,

Your posts have remind me that there is certainly an episode that is allegedly of the life of Mitchel of Nostradamus that seems to match with your hypothesis, it is however controversial, some biographers accept it as genuine but others claim is just part of the legends or myths excited by him.

Now, of course who attack this as just a myth are usually the so many declared enemies of the Prophet of Provence, many of them that never knew about him in life, but that belong to fanatic fundamentalist groups that use to launch similar attacks to whoever they don't like , because represent a contradiction to their own system of beliefs about who is calling from God and who does not.

Nostradamus was in essence a mystic, apart of his professional academic credentials in pharmaceutical science or medicine. Now, if we accept him as a Prophet, that necessarily means that his works are a proof that the there is gift of prophecy in the Roman Catholic church, or among the Hebrews in modern post Christian times, since he also belonged to the ancient mystic tradition of the Jewish Kabala.

So that is in the core of the discussion to accept him or not as a legitimate seer of God. If there is gift of Prophecy in a church or in a religious congregation is because no doubt that institution or group of people is in communion with the divinity.

Curiously many of the critics of Nostradamus belong to groups that never have produced any genuine Prophetic evidence at all, so it is highly doubtful that they have any moral authority to decide who is a prophet or a seer and who is not, also is doubtful if they are indeed in communion with God that is the only who really knows perfectly the future.

Apparently Mitchel of Nostradamus in a trip through Italy found in 1553 a Franciscan monk called Felice Peretti who he predicted was going to be Pope. He became elected successor of St Peter about 32 years that encounter, 19 years after the Prophet death.

2015 AETN UK History: According to legend, Nostradamus once encountered a young Franciscan monk herding pigs in Italy. To the surprise of onlookers, Nostradamus respectfully addressed the lowly monk as "Your Holiness." In 1585, years after Nostradamus died, that monk, Felice Peretti, became Pope Sixtus V.

Please check:
www.history.co.uk...

Ironically, in 1553, when Nostradamus encountered a group of Franciscan monks he threw himself on his knees, clutching at the garment of one of the monks, Felice Peretti. When asked why he had done this he replied that he must yield “before his Holiness.” Nineteen years after the death of Nostradamus, Peretti became Pope Sixtus V.

Please check:
didyouknow.org...

Biography: Nostradamus. During his travels in Italy, he came upon a group of Franciscan monks, identifying one as the future Pope. The monk, called Felice Peretti, was ordained Pope Sixtus V in 1585, fulfilling the prediction of Nostradamus.

www.biography.com...

Thanks for your interesting replies.

The Angel of Light

Angel dude, that swineherd prediction could have another perspective. If Nosty saved enough from the plagues, then he well may have earned Grail Knight status, with the Heavenly Host. Thus he may indeed, have shared a bit of it with the young monk, "denouncing him to become Pope". Yes this does work, but its not easy to control. Think of this as a Bull in the Celestial China Shop. And as the saying goes, "you can lead a horse to water----". The subject must also want to walk this path, himself. The most famous denouncement I know of, is Chris Columbus, making landfall in the New World, falling to his knees, and "denouncing" all of the new found lands to be possessions of his benefactor, the King of Spain.

Spaniards would likewise "denounce" a gold vein to their King, and then mine it, giving the Crown and the Church, their cuts. The King would then send soldiers to round up Indians and force them to work the gold mines, as conscripts. Thusly, the Spaniards all won, and the Indians got screwed over, and converted, all at the same time.

Think of the Grail as a Blarney Stone, with remarkable recuperative powers. In the Egyptian Book of the Dead, its known as their "Whetstone Box". It was originally set to be installed in the King's Coffer, inside the Great Pyramid, at Giza. But it was spirited away to the Chartroom at Heliopolis, across the Nile River.

As my favorite Egyptologist, Dr. Fekerey Hassan told me, "they cannot dig up modern Cairo, to look for the ruins of that Chartroom". So until some $5 day kaffir, digging a sewer ditch hits a stone with a funny hollow sound, the famous Chartroom's secret will remain hidden, or not. Nosty covered part of this, and Cent. X, Q, 72 is a kind of "Head Piece to the Staff of RA", puzzle. You use a stick for measuring time. Putting in the year zero, brings you to July 31st, 2001 A.D., and then cutting off 19 integer units, gives you July 12th, 2001. This is the second "climb Mt. Nitaka" Go message for 19 souls going to meet their 72 virgins, in the second 'Pearl Harbor". I took half of this to the authorities, but got blown off in August, before Labor Day. Just Play with the numerology, before reading the words.

It would be interesting to read the original "Ark", manuscript, by Stanley Rader and Prof. Cohen, of M.I.T. Hollywood stole this to make Raiders of the Lost Ark, and Rader lost in Court because he claimed everything in Ark was Biblical Prophecy. You can't copyright the Bible, or any codes or predictions in it. You can't copyright Nostradamus's codes either, only one's "Path to Discovery" when you solve a few dozen or so of his "wild" verses.

edit; edit on 13-6-2016 by carpooler because: add in the Hollywood connections. If you really want to look at this with 20 - 20 Hindsight, subtract 72 years from 2001 A.D. to see how far Hollywood moved Rader's and Cohen's carefully researched, futuristic, historical novel, back in time to. I cracked his code in late 1985, and called it, in 1986, as fifty years, instead of what became fifty seven years, minus four months. This number of years in Japanese is our old friend, Isoruku, when the Japanese were drawing up their plans for Unit 731 in Manchuria. Its just one more tie in to the Isoruku conspiracy I've mentioned before. But that modern conspiracy starts counting on the deck of the U.S.S. Missouri in Tokyo Bay, on Aug. 30th 1945, and ends up 56 years later, on Sept. 1st, 2001 A.D. IMO, this is their Legend of the 47 Ronin, writ very large indeed! Adding pairs of integers in 4, 5, 6, 7, and reading backwards, in Japanese fashion, brings you to the same dates as Nosty's C. X, Q. 10 does. Reading them in English, from left to right, takes away Unit 731, replacing it with a girl's birthday, on the 13th of July, in Tokyo, or Provence' , but still July 12th, here in North America. And this girl is the Diana mentioned in C. 2, Q. 27, when she was only 4 years old.

The Peace of God to all that belong to the LIght,
Dear Readers,

This Saturday in a political raid in las Vegas, Nevada, that in many aspects can be considered one of the natural scenarios and territories controlled by the Casino entrepreneur Donald Trump, a British tourist of just 19 years old, push the prediction of Mitchel of Nostradamus that refers to this thread in path of fully accomplishment.

Please read:

www.foxnews.com...

Michael Steven Sandford who came from California to Nevada, what an irony, is an illegal immigrant, but not Mexican, instead he is English and he tried to grab the gun of a security guard at just in between two to three feet from behind the candidate.

This guy approached Trump arguing that he just wanted to receive an autograph of Trump, and of course the incredible ego of the candidate made its job to facilitate him to approach Trump at a minimum distance.

AP: Sandford told Secret Service agents that he drove his 2007 BMW from the San Bernardino, California, area to Las Vegas on June 16. The next day, he went to a shooting range and fired 20 rounds from a 9mm Glock pistol to learn how to use it, according to the complaint.

Sandford said he had been planning to kill Trump for about a year but finally felt confident about trying it, the complaint states.

hosted.ap.org...

Of course this didn't pass of to be just an attempt, but it has showed that Nostradamus was not exaggerating when he pointed that there is going to be blood in this campaign running. The situation showed that the security around the candidates is not as strong as it should be, and that even an amateur could fool it for a while.

AP: Sandford told officers he had been planning an assassination for about a year and was convinced he would die in the attempt. He said he also reserved a ticket for a Trump rally in Phoenix, scheduled for later in the day, as a backup.

theconservativetreehouse.com... f/

Thanks for your attention,

The Angel of Lightness

The "peaceful" "tolerant" left has already tried to assassinate and assault Trump multiple times, and that's just in the primaries! Imagine what they'll do when he's in the general election and/or gets elected!

a reply to: jjkenobi

Dear jjkenobi,

I am afraid that your statement is a bold generalization, I don't see a clear link with the political left. My impression is that the threats against Donald Trump and the two assassination attempts he has suffered are likely to be boosted more as a reaction of ethnical or religious minority groups that are being targeted by his rhetoric on migration and national security policies than by nothing else.

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness

originally posted by: The angel of light

Now, Mitchel of Nostradamus has also a quatrain that I believe refers clearly to the meteoric arrival of Donald Trump in the National and International political scene, as well as Hillary Clinton difficult advance questioned by scandals both arriving hardly into the nomination and possibly his or her also dramatic fall from it.

The quatrain describes a figure that arrives with great arrogance to the political scene, looking for power, but suffers a terrible unexpected attempt of assassination that can cause his or her death, or possibly at least permanent complete disability, ending his or her brief moment of glory without really achieving his or her goals.

Here it is the quatrain:

Par grand discord la terre tremblera,
Accord rompu dressant la teste au ciel,
Bouche sanglante dans le sang nagera,
Au sol la face ointe de laict & miel.

The trumpet shakes with great discord.
An agreement broken: lifting the face to heaven:
the bloody mouth will swim with blood;
the face anointed with milk and honey lies on the ground.

It is a distorted translation. There is no "trumpet" in the french quatrain. Terre means earth - not trumpet. You can ask any french-speaker (I am one myself)

His name is Michel de notredame(not Mitchel). Notredame (meaning "our lady" in english) written in old french with "s" betwen the "0" and "t".

I am not sure what to make of his quatrains. There have been additional fake quatrains . As for the ones he wrote, they are too vague to have any use. A kind of retrospective prediction (which of course defeats the purpose).

As this is a Prediction forum, would any one like to upsatage Nostradamus and actually predic if Halary or Donald will win ?

a reply to: crowdedskies

Dear Crowdedskies,

I believe here possibly there is a misunderstanding from your side, first all what you have brought seems to be a translation into modern French of the original quatrains, are not really in its original form.

here it is the quatrain as it was originally published in XVI century:

Century 1 - Quatrain 57

Nostradamus Quatrains

The trumpet shakes with great discord
An agreement broken, lifting the face to heaven:
the bloody mouth will swim with blood,
the face anointed with milk & honey lies on the ground

Par grand discord la trombe tremblera
Accord rompu, dressant la teste au ciel:
Bouche sanglante dans le snag nagera,
Au sol sa face oingte de laict & miel.

It comes to my attention that in your source the word Tromb has been carefully replaced by the word Terre, where did you take
from that modern adaptation? The Nostradamus Quatrains website according D. Trump perhaps?

Here is the link to the actual original version I have posted:

www.nostradamusquatrains.com...

Now, Since Hillary Clinton after all seems to have surpassed successfully her crisis of to be possibly indictated by FBI, it is clear that there is going to be indeed a terrible blood outcome waiting in the final stage of this Presidential Election, and anyway some other trouble suddenly emerging like a Political pact that will be broken, either for her or even for Trump.

Is Hillary going to fall finally in a second trial for perjure as the Congress has requested to FBI to investigate? Is Donald Trump going to suffer an incredible issue with a rebellion of conservatives in the Republican National convention?

The quatrain suggests clearly that occurring soon but also that somebody, among the Candidates, is going either to die or fell terribly wounded.

Thanks for your attention,

The Angel of Lightnesss

originally posted by: The angel of light

It comes to my attention that in your source the word Tromb has been carefully replaced by the word Terre, where did you take
from that modern adaptation?

I just quoted from your post which had the word "terre". I don't know about the original quatrain.

Looks like you have changed it now. Very Strange


Another two posters (M5xaz and 1984hasarrived) pointed out to you that Terre means Earth. So, I am not the only one who saw "Terre " in your original post. What is going on here ?

The Peace of God to all that belong to the Light,
Dear Readers,

The pneumonia illness that was diagnosticated the last Friday to the Democratic Nominee, Hillary Clinton, as well as her physical absolute collapse happened just Yesterday represent the entering of this causal line in the ultimate stage or chapter of accomplishment of the Prophecy of Mitchell of Nostradamus, about the current Presidential campaign in America.

Century 1 - Quatrain 57 Nostradamus Quatrains

The trumpet shakes with great discord An agreement broken, lifting the face to heaven: the bloody mouth will swim with blood, the face anointed with milk & honey lies on the ground Par grand discord la trombe tremblera Accord rompu, dressant la teste au ciel: Bouche sanglante dans le snag nagera, Au sol sa face oingte de laict & miel.

Please check:

sputniknews.com...

www.independent.co.uk...


It is clear that Mrs Clinton is at least for the following ten days actually physically and probably also mentally disabled to continue doing campaign as Nostradamus told us in his quatrain.

Now the arrogant candidate, also fully described by Nostradamus in the same quatrain, Donald Trump, has already started to try to profit of the disgrace of his opponent. It is clear that by using this event to disclose his health report, He will ask for disclosure of Clinton medical health report in few days, suspecting that she actually has a worst condition than the one already revealed to the public.

Please check:

www.breitbart.com...

www.people.com...


Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness

There is a currently a war between the presidency right now. There is assassinations going on since Bernie office was shot up. DNC(Democratic National Committee) staffers are dropping dead everywhere. Trumps campaign is being attack by aggressive protest.

I highly doubt they want either campaign nominee. Problem with Trump is he could effect China with a possible blocked which in return will effect the world. Of all the hate Mexico definitely hates trump. Some Canadians do not like him as much as South America either. Even some if not majority Middle Eastern people don't like him.

Now for Hilary. She will cause WW3 right away using assassination attempt. She will completely block Russia, China, and possibly order suppression of other country using US military power. Nobody likes her except some Americans. The fact that some military personals will follow her is already a problem.

The people to get out was Jill Stein, Bernie and possible Gary. Bernie is out due to rigged polls since 2001 George Bush era. There be no change as long as polls remain rigged. So good bye America.

a reply to: makemap

Well, Dear makemap,

I think we are all aware in this country that this is far to be a normal election, we are seeing a way to do politics that has none or really few precedents in the History of America.

The levels of harassment to opponent sympathizers or to arrange propaganda machineries to destroy the image of the opponents is right now grave, half of the discourse of the candidates is to defame the other side at any cost, and if we don't find the way to stop that trend this could become out of control.

Of course, when the emphasis is in destroying the opponent there is really few space to debate intelligent and constructive ideas to build a new future for this nation, so it is the people who is losing with this type of campaign, because without promising nothing somebody may arrive to the White hosue moved not by his or her talent but mainly by the fear of the opponent.

For me there is no doubt that the initiative to make of this election the most nasty ever comes from Donald Trump Campaign and the Tea party, but Hyllary Clinton is following their game all the time.

The incoming TV debate promises to be more like a Boxing fight for the world title of extremely aggressive political behavior than for anything else.

Thanks for your comments.

The Angel of Lightness

originally posted by: M5xaz
a reply to: The angel of light

Your translation of the first verse is wrong

C1:Q57

Par grand discord la terre tremblera,

By great discord the EARTH shall tremble

Nothing to do with trumpets or Trump

Cheers

Ah, well, the genius of Nostradamus is that he predicted that the poster would mistranslate the passage, but that the mistranslation would actually be the words that Nostradamus intended. Magic.

Either that or the poster is making stuff up to reach the meaning they're grasping to reach.

It's pretty much 50/50 at this point.

Man I love reading his predictions and relating it to current events, this one however, eeesh.