Mitchel of Nostradamus: ( presumptive) Nominee would fall Assassinated or disabled in 2016?

The Peace of God to all that belong to the Light,
Dear Readers,

We are living a very usual election in the States, one that can be qualified as paradoxical for the great political contrasts that offer and extremely unusual in the campaigning styles, with dramatic changes in the form to carry out proselytism and also in the ideals or principles that traditionally the two great Parties have defended along all the existence of America as a Free country.

One certainly worrying factor that has entered in the political arena is the violence that has gradually taken control of the streets, the confrontation in between supporters of one or another candidate, as it happened months ago among the followers of Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump in Chicago, or what have occurred in Nevada just a week ago in between supporters of Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders.

2016 look like very much as crucial historic election that can define or redefine the future of America and the world, in that sense only 1968 perhaps contained so much strong ingredients as this one in the political recipe:

- So much intense confrontation of ideas reaching levels of almost revolution clamor.
- an incredible similarity in the social context: a crisis among the young people and the most mature generations.
- a fight for conquer a new version of civil rights, a constant collision in between activists and police.
- The tragedy of a war that does not look to have end, no longer just in one country but an entire region, in 1960s Indochina and in our time in all middle east
- Internal fractures in both parties in between the establishment and the reformers that wants to push an entire new agenda.
- National conventions that are menaced by mutual attacks and even with possibility of riots .
- The return of great tension in between the great military superpowers, a regression to the cold war, in 1960s due to Vietnam and in our time due to Ukraine civil war.

Moreover, this is a so messed election that can produce the most unlikely outcome, like it happened when the great villain of the politics Richard M Nixon became President and a leader with great messianic charisma like Robert F Kennedy was assassinated.

If you are not already familiar with his predictions, let me just mention that they are contained in verses called quatrains that were grouped in small books called centuries.

Here some of the best links to study the life and writings of the Prophet of Provence, Mitchel of Nostrdamus:

www.armageddononline.org...

nostradamuspredictions.org...

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

Now, Mitchel of Nostradamus has also a quatrain that I believe refers clearly to the meteoric arrival of Donald Trump in the National and International political scene, as well as Hillary Clinton difficult advance questioned by scandals both arriving hardly into the nomination and possibly his or her also dramatic fall from it.

The quatrain describes a figure that arrives with great arrogance to the political scene, looking for power, but suffers a terrible unexpected attempt of assassination that can cause his or her death, or possibly at least permanent complete disability, ending his or her brief moment of glory without really achieving his or her goals.

Here it is the quatrain:

C1:Q57 Nostradamus repository

Par grand discord la terre tremblera,
Accord rompu dressant la teste au ciel,
Bouche sanglante dans le sang nagera,
Au sol la face ointe de laict & miel.

The trumpet shakes with great discord.
An agreement broken: lifting the face to heaven:
the bloody mouth will swim with blood;
the face anointed with milk and honey lies on the ground.

Please check: yowusa.com...

other edition of Nostradanus says:

The trumpet shakes with great discord
An agreement broken, lifting the face to heaven:
the bloody mouth will swim with blood,
the face anointed with milk & honey lies on the ground.

Par grand discord la trombe tremblera
Accord rompu, dressant la teste au ciel:
Bouche sanglante dans le snag nagera,
Au sol sa face oingte de laict & miel.

Century 1 - Quatrain 57
Nostradamus Quatrains

Please check: www.nostradamusquatrains.com...

The first verse no doubt refers to Donald Trump ,his so noisy campaign against minorities and the great discord he has caused in
the nation, as well as in the world.

The Second suggest an agreement that is violated, we know either Trump and Clinton both need to make a not easy deal with not friendly opponents to have chance to go a head into the general election successfully.

The third verse talks about somebody that has blood already in the hands, it could refer to the harassment promoted by white supremacists in the political rides of Trump? or the brutal death of the Ambassador Christopher Stevens In Libya that didn't receive the help he requested to Clinton.

The fourth verse talks possibly in symbolic sense somebody anointed with beauty treatments, the so rumored hair surgery of Trump?
or the also so commented possibly plastic surgery of H. Clinton after she left the State Secretary?

The Thread is open to the free discussion and analysis to all the members interested on analyze and discuss the possible different scenarios this terrible prediction, provided that you remain on topic and please avoiding personal attacks that erode the dialog and violate the norms of decorum in the posting.

Thanks for your attention,

The Angel of Lightness

The angel of light

Well, that's the fun of prophecy, you can make it fit however you want.

Nicely written thread there..however the
meaning of the quatrain is vague at best, at worst it has no correlation to the
US election at all.

jmo

Nostradamus is way too vague. I feel like every great event that happens is a matter of "let's throw some Nostradamus at it and see what sticks." A good prophecy is specific enough it won't fit with just anything. Look at the Damascus prophecy for an example.

For Gods sake, not Nostradamus again, please actually read his quatrains and learn once and for all he was a quack or crystal ball fortune teller

disabilitated: I don't think that word means what you think it means. Indeed, I don't think it is a word at all.

a reply to: ketsuko

Well Dear Ketsuko,

Mitchel of Nostradamus is a seer that does not require any recommendation letter, he is by far the great Prophet of the Christian Era.

His quatrains can be written in symbolic way but the metaphores contained on them are pretty descriptive, so it is not difficult to find
key words on them that clarify to whom they refer to.

Pls check: www.youtube.com...

His are the most astonishing accomplishing predictions ever about modernity:

- The French Revolution, the decapitation of Louis XVI and Maria Antoinette.
- The devastating great fire of London,
- The arrival of Napoleon and his wars along all Europe.
- the Ascension of Adolf Hitler to power and the expansion of the IIIth Reich
- World war II described with incredible accuracy.
- Accidental Death of King Henry II of France in a Knights tournament.
- Assassination of John F Kennedy
- September 11th of 2001 air terrorist attack over New York,
- The current mega conflict in between Islamic fundamentalist terrorism and the western world.

If you think this not enough to claim Nostradamus foresaw Donald Trump Days, look at this other quatrain that predicts his arrival in times of total collapse ( Economic) of Greece and great turmoil of revolution or civil war in Egypt ( advance of ISIS? ) :

C1:Q40

La trompe fausse dissimulant folie,
Fera Bisance vn changement de loix,
Histra d'Egypte, qui veut que l on deffie
Edict changeant monnoyes & aloys.

The false trumpet concealing maddness
will cause Byzantium to change its laws.
From Egypt there will go forth a man who wants
the edict withdrawn, changing money and standards.

Now, how about Donald Trump obsession to build walls around America, to transform the national borders in
a kind of fortresses?

Here a quatrain that also warns us on that:

C3:Q50

La republique de la grande cité,
A grand rigueur ne voudra consentir:
Roy sortir hors par trompette cité,
L'eschelle au mur la cité repentir.

The republic of the great city
Will not want to consent to the great severity:
King summoned by trumpet to go out,
The ladder at the wall, the city will repent.

Thanks for your attention,

The Angel of Lightness

a reply to: schuyler

Dear schuyler,

I was so much focused in to grasp the meaning of the old French language or the Latin used in the Nostradamus quatrains that almost missed the thread was English, I appreciated your important feedback.

Now, a Remark that I think it is very relevant here:

Nostradamus critics use to argue that he wrote all his predictions in symbolic language and in verse, but that is perfectly Understandable since in his time there was few tolerance to accept parapsychological gifts or experiences like omens, premonitions or clairvoyance. So Nostradamus, that by the way was also a member of a family of converted Jewish people to Catholicism needed to use an encoding way to publish his outstanding predictions.

Many times the inquisition wanted to prosecute him but he was able to survive their hunting thanks to the protection that the Queen of France, Maria of Medicis gave to him.

Here a link to the edition of the quatrains that I am using to analyze this:

yowusa.com...

Sincerely,

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness

a reply to: The angel of light

That's an awful lot of inference to draw from four lines of bad poetry.

a reply to: chr0naut

Dear chr0naut,

Well, I think it is still so soon to make comments like yours, we are just in the primary election, many things could happen in the months from here to November.

Let me give you just a friendly advise: Nostradamus has the bad habit of to get his way in the long run, so don't feel disappointed if later you will wish to bite your tongue before to come in a hurry to release such a post.

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness

a reply to: The angel of light

Your translation of the first verse is wrong

C1:Q57

Par grand discord la terre tremblera,

By great discord the EARTH shall tremble

Nothing to do with trumpets or Trump

Cheers

Hi, Angel of Light

I also must disagree, somewhat. Everything about the current election cycle feels like manufactured nonsense to keep the masses busy while the real world rolls along smoothly. It's bread and circuses for the people who know what that means, it's Entertainment Tonight for people who read newspapers.
Any elected candidate will be *told* what to do and it will be business as usual, guaranteed.

That said, please never stop posting; your style and personal insights are greatly valued.
Just wanted to say that.

originally posted by: The angel of light
a reply to: chr0naut

Dear chr0naut,

Well, I think it is still so soon to make comments like yours, we are just in the primary election, many things could happen in the months from here to November.

Let me give you just a friendly advise: Nostradamus has the bad habit of to get his way in the long run, so don't feel disappointed if later you will wish to bite your tongue before to come in a hurry to release such a post.

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness

Yeah, it's just that I reckon that it says a bad trumpet player will get a smack in the mouth.

Century I

quatrain 40

The false trumpet concealing madness
will cause Byzantium to change its laws.
From Egypt there will go forth a man who wants
the edict withdrawn, changing money and standards.

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Century X

quatrain 76

The great Senate will ordain the triumph
For one who afterwards will be vanquished, driven out:
At the sound of the trumpet of his adherents there will be
Put up for sale their possessions, enemies expelled.
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a reply to: M5xaz

No, I don't think so, I respectfully disagree with you. The quatrain original writing as well as the translations in to modern English comes from the online repository of Les Propheties features the 1840 Bareste edition.

This edition features the original 10 Centuries in the Old French, with reliable English language translations.

Here it is again the link:

yowusa.com...

Now this other site, that is extremely popular in astrological circles provide also a translation in the same sense than the one above:

www.nostradamusquatrains.com...

Sorry, but you are possibly reading Nostradamus Prophecies 'respectfully' revised and re-edited by request of Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton.

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness

a reply to: Nostredame

Yes Dear Notredame,

I appreciate you also brought that interesting Quatrain, it certainly fit well in the description of a leader like Donald Trump that comes with a terrible thirst for political power to change things in a dramatic way, that will not necessarily be the most fair or even the best one, but anyway a turning point for the nation.

C10:Q76

Le grand Senat discernera la pompe,
A l'vn qu'apres sera vaincu chassé:
Ses adherans seront à son de trompe
Biens publiez, ennemis dechassez.

The great Senate will ordain the triumph
For one who afterwards will be vanquished, driven out:
At the sound of the trumpet of his adherents there will be
Put up for sale their possessions, enemies expelled.

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightenss

Century II

quatrain 44

The Eagle driven back around the tents
Will be chased from there by other birds:
When the noise of cymbals, trumpets and bells
Will restore the senses of the senseless lady.
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originally posted by: M5xaz
a reply to: The angel of light

Your translation of the first verse is wrong

C1:Q57

Par grand discord la terre tremblera,

By great discord the EARTH shall tremble

Nothing to do with trumpets or Trump

Cheers

I concur - inaccurate translation there.

I am guessing the work "trumpet" (not mentioned in French), is meant to signify Trump, but I do not see where that comes from at all in the original.

a reply to: Nostredame

Well, that quatrain seems to me that would refer perhaps more directly to Hillary Clinton than to Donald Trump, since anyway she has been so severely questioned for her way to handle classified information that was not really professional at all but even somebody could say insensate, given the risk that represent for the national security of the country.

Thanks again for your contribution to the thread,

The Angel of Lightness

a reply to: The angel of light

The thing about these vague prophecies as well as the vague prophecies found in the bible, is that they can be intepreted to fit almost anything. They are not specific at all and there are hundreds if not thousands of scenarios they could apply to.

There will be great upheavel and famine,
A leader will emerge and bring the people out of poverty,
He will become corrupt and war will break out among the lands,
Many shall perish and and fall.

See I just wrote something that could come true in a myriad of ways. It's almost certain to happen as history continues to repeat itself over and over. However I gave no names or dates because that way it can be applied to many situations. Such is the nature of prophecy.