ABC poll: Trump surge due to massive 36% millennial swing

originally posted by: muse7

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Grimpachi
The worse it looks for Hillary before the convention the more chance there is for a contested convention.

That's what it looks like. Bernie might just pull this off. Trumps worst nightmare.

I mean even if Hillary ends up being indicted and decides to drop out, she wouldn't release her superdelegates to Bernie

I'm guessing Biden or another Establishment dem would jump into the race and get them

Vice President Joe Biden conducted a revealing interview two weeks ago, saying that he "will be" one hell of a good President for this country. I don't think he was talking about 2020. The man never has anything to say about Hillary. I think Joe knows something that we only suspect... Hillary's about to be thrown under the bus.

a reply to: muse7

It's funny to see you parrot talking points, such as, he hasn't had any negative ads run about him yet and to that I say, LMAO! But even if that were the case he would do far better than Clinton ever would. Trump is going to go all out attack mode on anyone he runs against and Clinton has so much material for him to work with he'll never run out of negative things to say about her and his support ads will just parrot everything he says. The attacks will be brutal and numerous.

Meanwhile, what's he got on Bernie? He's a socialist? He wants to raise taxes? Ouch... I dunno how Bernie can survive such an onslaught... You're right, he shouldn't run.

What kind of logic is that? Oh yeah, it's Democratic establishment logic.

And by the way, he hasn't been vetted? Like, huh?

originally posted by: muse7

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: xuenchen

Funny, the MSM and Democratic elite all said Bernie's not electable and do not support him. Well, now the chickens are coming home to roost because their decision to back Hillary very well may back fire on them. In an historical presidential cycle we have two of the most unfavorable canadiates ever, running together, and Trump just very well may win because people are sick and tired of the status quo.

Meanwhile there's Bernie who continues to have a positive rating and is America's most popular Senstor who is super popular with Independents AND millinnials! Sanders has destroyed ALL of the candidates combined with the youth vote during the primaries, and I guess caucuses.

But the elites can't have a non establishment guy in office who is looking to tax Wall Street and break up the Big Banks while reinstating Glass Steagall.

Expect lots of election fraud in favor of Clinton this November. Well, unless the elites can get Trump on board and being he's already an elite how hard can that be?

So all of a sudden a socialist has become electable in a general election?

I like Bernie he has a good message but he hasn't had a negative ad run against him and he hasn't been vetted at all

And when was the last time a presidential candidate that ran on a platform of raising taxes on not just the rich, but the middle class as well won?

Vetted? He has been, before changing to Democrat, was the longest serving Independent in Congressional history. A member of the House of representatives starting in 1991. I am thinking he is 'vetted'.

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: muse7

It's funny to see you parrot talking points, such as, he hasn't had any negative ads run about him yet and to that I say, LMAO! But even if that were the case he would do far better than Clinton ever would. Trump is going to go all out attack mode on anyone he runs against and Clinton has so much material for him to work with he'll never run out of negative things to say about her and his support ads will just parrot everything he says. The attacks will be brutal and numerous.

Meanwhile, what's he got on Bernie? He's a socialist? He wants to raise taxes? Ouch... I dunno how Bernie can survive such an onslaught... You're right, he shouldn't run.

What kind of logic is that? Oh yeah, it's Democratic establishment logic.

And by the way, he hasn't been vetted? Like, huh?

No not just that he's a socialist

He also hasn't released his tax returns and refuses to release them

He voted to dump Vermont's nuclear waste in a Hispanic community in Texas and has gladly supported pork barrel spending with the F-35 program which is considered a money pit.

There's a lot more where that came from and I'm sure the GOP wouldn't have trouble finding more. Also he relies on the most unreliable voting bloc in the US

His poll numbers against Trump are inflated because a lot of Hillary supporters would still back him in an election against Trump

originally posted by: muse7

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: muse7

It's funny to see you parrot talking points, such as, he hasn't had any negative ads run about him yet and to that I say, LMAO! But even if that were the case he would do far better than Clinton ever would. Trump is going to go all out attack mode on anyone he runs against and Clinton has so much material for him to work with he'll never run out of negative things to say about her and his support ads will just parrot everything he says. The attacks will be brutal and numerous.

Meanwhile, what's he got on Bernie? He's a socialist? He wants to raise taxes? Ouch... I dunno how Bernie can survive such an onslaught... You're right, he shouldn't run.

What kind of logic is that? Oh yeah, it's Democratic establishment logic.

And by the way, he hasn't been vetted? Like, huh?

No not just that he's a socialist

He also hasn't released his tax returns and refuses to release them

Of course Sanders has released his tax returns, otherwise we wouldn;t have all the articles ABOUT what is in his tax returns. You should make friends with Google. Google meet Muse7, Muse7 meet Google.


That right there, puts YOUR talking points in the 'what?' pile.

a reply to: muse7

So it would make sense to run him against Trump then.. I don't get this democratic establishment bull#.

Probably the Glass-Steagall act thing, can't go after the big banks or any of the real criminals.

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: muse7

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: muse7

It's funny to see you parrot talking points, such as, he hasn't had any negative ads run about him yet and to that I say, LMAO! But even if that were the case he would do far better than Clinton ever would. Trump is going to go all out attack mode on anyone he runs against and Clinton has so much material for him to work with he'll never run out of negative things to say about her and his support ads will just parrot everything he says. The attacks will be brutal and numerous.

Meanwhile, what's he got on Bernie? He's a socialist? He wants to raise taxes? Ouch... I dunno how Bernie can survive such an onslaught... You're right, he shouldn't run.

What kind of logic is that? Oh yeah, it's Democratic establishment logic.

And by the way, he hasn't been vetted? Like, huh?

No not just that he's a socialist

He also hasn't released his tax returns and refuses to release them

Of course Sanders has released his tax returns, otherwise we wouldn;t have all the articles ABOUT what is in his tax returns. You should make friends with Google. Google meet Muse7, Muse7 meet Google.

That right there, puts YOUR talking points in the 'what?' pile.

He hasn't released them

He released one year but refuses to release the rest

Nice try

According to en.wikipedia.org... , a "Millennial" person is age 16 to 37. Correct?

a reply to: reldra

Isn't the one with no tax returns released Trump?

Actually, has the Hillary released hers?

originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
a reply to: reldra

Isn't the one with no tax returns released Trump?

Actually, has the Hillary released hers?

Hillary has released 30 years of Tax returns

Bernie has released one year and refuses to release more

Trump outright refuses to release any

a reply to: Swills
a reply to: reldra

I wouldn't say that he hasn't been vetted but I do believe that his numbers are artificially high vs Trump compared to Hillary because there hasn't been a lot of mud slung his way. Perhaps what Muse was implying is that Sanders hasn't been put through the wringer yet.

a reply to: theantediluvian

He hasnt had a negative ad run against him this whole primary. Hillary is handling him with kid's gloves.

Trump is just flat out ignoring him and going after Hillary.

Biden-Sanders 2016?

originally posted by: FlyingFox
Biden-Sanders 2016?

*shudder*

Makes me think of how Obama really distances himself from her....hmm.

That chess move lines up Sanders as a top pick for 2020!!!

I should be getting paid for this.

It makes sense that everyone on the Dem side comes out clean if Hillary goes down and the ticket is Biden-Sanders....

Obama and Biden "did the right thing" to contest Trump!!!

Everyone blames Hillary for everything!!!

Dems look good in the White House for another 12 years!!!

originally posted by: Bone75
I don't trust any numbers put out by anyone when it comes to polls... especially over elections. I don't believe that we are always so evenly divided. I bet the real numbers show a landslide for one of the candidates, but knowing who's gonna win already won't keep you glued to the boob tube.

Yep! I don't believe all their crap, either.

It's all in the way the questions are asked, too.

If hillary gets indicted, her delegates will be really bummed.

a reply to: Swills

Meanwhile, what's he got on Bernie? He's a socialist? He wants to raise taxes? Ouch... I dunno how Bernie can survive such an onslaught... You're right, he shouldn't run.

In times where many, if not most, families are living pay check to pay check, that could have more influence than you may think. The simpler fact that voting Sanders will mean less to bring home is a big deal to many.
And no, it doesn't matter that he promises free this and that. All people see is less money in their pocket.

a reply to: olaru12 OMG, BERNIE COULD NEVER BEAT tRUMP, *Bernie* IS ONLY UP IN THE POLLS BECAUSE HIS THREAT IS INSIGNIFICANT AND HE HAS NO ATTACK ADS BECAUSE HE IS INSIGNIFICANT,,THERE WILL BE NO CONTESTED CONVENTION.




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a reply to: muse7

Releasing one year is releasing them. They said his wife hadn't finished 2015s yet. I'm a Hillary supporter. See the scars on my face and back but I'm not slamming Bernie for this. He has done and has not refused to release his tax forms.