Read the Donald Trump exam question that got a Florida teacher suspended

a reply to: Kali74 Of course someone like you wouldn't see anything wrong with this.

a reply to: Profusion

Assuming this is a public school, this is a no brainer. Educators in public schools should not be endorsing or disparaging candidates. Completely unacceptable and even the language was inappropriate. The article says that not only was he suspended, his contract isn't being renewed next year. That sounds reasonable to me.

Private schools are a different story and in that case, it would be a matter of the school's policies and the desires of the school's customers (tuition paying parents). Certainly in many cases, parents are actually paying to have their children indoctrinated, notably into religious faiths.

I am concerned with the distorted perception that many people are inevitably left with after reading stories like this. There are something like 100,000 public schools in the US and around 3.1 million full-time public school teachers and one or even a dozen similar examples of teachers behaving badly shouldn't be taken as indicative of a widespread problem.

An unfortunately large number of people are susceptible to irrational thinking based on almost no information. Give them three similar stories and they're making inflammatory statements about 3 million+ teachers based on the behavior of 0.0001% teachers.

a reply to: eluryh22

1) I really wish people would stop referencing that damned movie. It was an ok flick, but not the classic people make it out to be (in my opinion).

lol. agreed.

a reply to: theantediluvian

I can only speak for myself but I believe many (if not most) people understand that like any other profession, the vast majority of public school teachers are adequate, some are superstars and some manage to get by even though they are terrible at what they do.

My wife and I decided that we would be sending our son to private schools. However, the teachers were really not one of the major issues. It's more that we don't like what we see about the school districts handle things. Often, from what I understand, many public school teachers themselves feel like their hands are tied by district wide policies.

There are other public vs private school issues like safety (depending on location), curriculum, involvement of other parents, etc.

The answer is ALL of the ABOVE.
cheers

originally posted by: Gothmog
Sadly , this is the state of our public school systems today .

I see...so one out of the 3 Million Public School Teachers in the USA does something silly and stupid....And it's a systemic indictment of the entire public school system?

Curious how you feel about what this says about the Trump movement?

Trump Delegate From Maryland Indicted for producing Child Porn, Weapons Possession and Explosives
abcnews.go.com...

a reply to: AVtech34

Of course someone like you wouldn't read a whole thread.

a reply to: Kali74

no - but you are projecting

PS - do you REALLY think that teachers should impart thier political opinions to thier students ?

i dont - i think they should stick to the syllabus

originally posted by: SomeDumbBroad
a reply to: JoshuaCox


So why should it be deemed okay for a teacher that does not teach politics? Why should the teacher who is NOT a political teacher be pushing a political agenda? I don't care what side of the spectrum you are on, if I am in your class and I am learning about Math, Science, English or anything OTHER than politics, I am walking out of your class.

I stand by my opinion that teachers should not be bias when teaching their students... no matter if it is political, religious or otherwise. Your job is to teach fundamentals, not push your personal agenda. If you want to push your own personal political opinions, work towards becoming an active member of the political process.

Is it pushing your political agenda or stating your opinion?

Teachers are not robots, and politics shouldn't be that controversial.

Obviously this teacher did not handle it professionally...an intelligent conversation on the subject would be a different animal completely.

Some things are not even subjective, and literally everything is politicized lately. So if you state facts that don't agree with a political ideology, is that being political??

This teacher was immature and a clown.

A different teacher that sparked a legit political debate, would absolutely be except able..

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: Gothmog
Sadly , this is the state of our public school systems today .

I see...so one out of the 3 Million Public School Teachers in the USA does something silly and stupid....And it's a systemic indictment of the entire public school system?

Curious how you feel about what this says about the Trump movement?

Trump Delegate From Maryland Indicted for producing Child Porn, Weapons Possession and Explosives
abcnews.go.com...

That's life in right wing world...

When conservatives point to proof that left are all crazy, it is always some random Bernie supporter, BLM protestor or internet poster..

Whenever it's about an elected official, it always comes with the disclaimer:

"I know they didn't say they want to (enter random scare tactic), but we know what they really mean..."


When your talking about republican scandals, it's always an elected official, or the GOP nominee..lol.

There are countless videos of Ted Cruz, Carson, Gomert and of course the king The Donald, saying the craziest things...and they are the leaders of the GOP!

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: Kali74

no - but you are projecting

PS - do you REALLY think that teachers should impart thier political opinions to thier students ?

i dont - i think they should stick to the syllabus

I think that our students should be engaged in political discourse by their teachers and fellow students. That is the type on environment in which they can learn to properly debate and fact check one another.

Learning to discuss politics at home is how ideologies become bashed in to their brain, instead of an open forum where many ideologies can be discussed.

a reply to: ignorant_ape

no - but you are projecting

Am I? Or am I just calling out the Pot?

a reply to: Kali74

you are [ projecting ] - and i shall ask again :

do you REALLY think that teachers should impart thier political opinions to students ?

a yess // no answer is all thats needed

a reply to: ignorant_ape

Already answered. Read the thread.

a reply to: Profusion

Extremes, always extremes.

On all sides.

If you vote for Trump, you're a racist, who hates the poor!
If you vote for Bernie? Obviously a communist! (oaky, that one may be true )
If you vote for Hillary? Then you're a sad disfigured laboratory monkey.

But to get fired over a snarky question?

C'mon people!

Snow flakes to the left of me, snow flakes to the right. . . . and here I am, stuck in the middle with. . .

If I got fired every time I made a smart-ass comment, I'd never hold a job!

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Profusion

Extremes, always extremes.

On all sides.

If you vote for Trump, you're a racist, who hates the poor!
If you vote for Bernie? Obviously a communist! (oaky, that one may be true

)
If you vote for Hillary? Then you're a sad disfigured laboratory monkey.

But to get fired over a snarky question?

C'mon people!

Snow flakes to the left of me, snow flakes to the right. . . . and here I am, stuck in the middle with. . .

If I got fired every time I made a smart-ass comment, I'd never hold a job!

Speaking of being a smart-ass and holding down a job...How's the Yoga pants modeling going?

a reply to: IAMTAT

A lot better than my last job. . . teaching. . .

a reply to: Profusion

Why suspend the teacher for this? It's actually kind of funny and Trump set the stage for this with his ridiculous comments. I suppose bringing politics into the classroom is probably a bad idea, unless of course that class is a Political Science class.

If anyone is bringing Idiocracy to America it's Trump, not this teacher, and one of the writers of Idiocracy, Etan Cohen, agrees.

'Idiocracy' writer: I never expected my movie 'to become a documentary'

The man behind the 2006 cult sci-fi film “Idiocracy” is lamenting that his fictional movie appears to have become reality.

"I never expected #idiocracy to become a documentary,” tweeted screenwriter Etan Cohen in an apparent jab at the 2016 presidential race.

Together with "Beavis & Butt-head" creator Mike Judge, Cohen co-wrote the time-travel comedy. The plot revolves around the misadventures of a man who wakes up in a futuristic America only to discover that everyone around him, including lawmakers and government officials, is an idiot.

"I thought the worst thing that would come true was everyone wearing Crocs,” Cohen told his Twitter followers.

a reply to: Swills

If we start limiting free expression, even in schools, then we've already turned into an authoritarian state.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Swills

If we start limiting free expression, even in schools, then we've already turned into an authoritarian state.

The teacher was only expressing his political views from a position of authority...intimidating or indoctrinating to the students who look to him for guidance and expertise, perhaps (and that could be an abuse of his position of authority)...but there's no indication that he was actively stifling or censoring the political views of his students.

However, higher up the educational ladder, the authoritarian state is beginning to thrive unchecked.

Portland school board bans climate change-denying materials

In a move spearheaded by environmentalists, the Portland Public Schools board unanimously approved a resolution aimed at eliminating doubt of climate change and its causes in schools.

“It is unacceptable that we have textbooks in our schools that spread doubt about the human causes and urgency of the crisis,” said Lincoln High School student Gaby Lemieux in board testimony.

portlandtribune.com...

Attorney Malik Leigh teaches at the school’s law academy and included the question as part of two final exams he submitted for approval, The Post’s Andrew Marra reports.

Someone want to tell me what the hell that had to do with the 'law' ?

I totally missed it.

What's also DISTURBING is they are teaching LAW in high schools now?

In this case. Leigh sure wasn't.