Nudity

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Seriously?

I had to think about that, here in MI. It is so common to see a man without a shirt on, in the summer up here, and I can't remember ever hearing anyone say anything derogatory. They roof houses, (not professional crews), mow lawns, ride bikes, they are everywhere. It's just "normal". You can see one every day in July, getting out of his car, putting the shirt on, to go in the store.

I find that interesting, that in a state that can be as hot as yours, it's not normal.

a reply to: Thetan

Since you bring it up? Is Western cultures insistence on keeping the body covered really any different from Muslims demanding that THEIR women cover up???

originally posted by: WhiteWingedMonolith

originally posted by: Thetan
Societies considerations on nudity absolutely fascinate me. Why do so many countries consider public nudity to be taboo or immoral? Why is it that in the United States(or any other country) you will be arrested and thrown in jail for walking around the streets in the nude? Why is it that co-ed locker rooms are considered shocking to those of us who live in North America? In Germany(and other parts of Europe too) for instance there are co-ed saunas and it isn't a big deal, not to mention tribal societies. When, where, why and how did we come to the conclusion that the human body is something to hide and if you don't hide yours you need to be thrown behind bars like an animal? To me the consideration that co-ed or public nudity is unethical is completely arbitrary. I understand the use of close for practical reasons(such as cold weather.) Or for reasons such as displaying social status or "expressing yourself." It's merely the consideration that nudity is in some cases indecent or immoral that is odd to me. Thoughts?

Why?

Because males can't control an erection. Garments can hold them in place. It helps them deal with it. Women ovulate in addition to other natural internal cleansing methods to keep "the bed of life" functioning. Garments keep that in place. We also have food and drink exits that we sit on. Anyone over 40 knows those areas start to weaken with escaped flatulence that could very possibly have the tiniest of turds attached to it, all innocent yes, but unsanitary. Women still in their youth have weak bladders due to having carried a baby in their womb, and for both genders, middle aged on up, the urinary muscles that hold in pee weaken. Laughing too hard, coughing or even a sneeze could result in a dribble. In addition, just as people sloppily dress or groom their nails and hair, one can easily surmise wiping after elimination is sloppily done. This is unsanitary out in public or in a shared home. Or even alone. Garments help shield. Male and female private parts, at any age, are sensitive outside of sexuality and need to be protected. No one needs an ant crawling around their private areas while sitting on a public bench at a park. We also have no hair or the hair is very fine on our bodies. So our skin is very sensitive. Our bodies are not covered with fur like a bear. This is what garments act as. A protective fur of sorts. Women have breasts and most prefer to have them held in place with garments based on comfort, believe it or not, so they are not jiggling around. Smaller breasts in middle aged women experience the same. Men with man-boobs feel similarily. Same with thighs, buttocks and upper arms, any extra flesh attached to the bone feels loose, garments help bind for better movements. Being fat has little to do with it as middle agers on up deal with skin losing it's flexibility to hold regular body fat and muscle in. Now some like to lay around naked or not feel binded but they are an exception, not the rule. Environments are also too extreme temperature wise and bare feet, boobs and butts can't deal with them without garments. Lastly, people are superficial and judge mere clothing. You can imagine the bullying and mockery would be worse naked. That wouldn't be cool. It's not Rocket Science. It's logical to protect the body and meet sanitary standards.

while certainly true and I am sure has a part to do with why being naked in public is illegal, I think it has more to do with sex.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Phage


Most men think about sex all the time anyway. So do women for that matter. Since its the prime directive, it smells of " Find out what they want and don't give it to them"

How many don't control their lust as it is and some do try. We have little girls and boys and young beautiful women walking around the pervs will not be able to resist, more attacks more rape more child assault.

a reply to: SeaWorthy


These days if the majority of people walked around naked, sex wouldn't be an issue anymore.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: SeaWorthy


These days if the majority of people walked around naked, sex wouldn't be an issue anymore.

I disagree. I have been waiting for the pornography to become commonplace to the point of tiresome, it is not happening.
Teens we know have little control, pediphiles would be in heaven, we need a perfect people before we can be free of clothing.

some things need not be seen. quite a lot actually. the average naked human in reality is, more often than not, far-removed from any ideal. ew, etc.

originally posted by: hudsonhawk69
a reply to: Thetan

Since you bring it up? Is Western cultures insistence on keeping the body covered really any different from Muslims demanding that THEIR women cover up???

OMG, yes, yes it is very different! You should know this.

a reply to: SeaWorthy


Porn is a drug, with all the same side effects as other drugs, it has to get more extreme to have the same dopamine effect, when the user realises this, that Its the same as certain types of food, and all the other addictions we can get caught up in. The individual must invariably make a choice and invest time in throwing the addiction, to free themselves up. To do what one may ask?, the answer leaves little choice,but to involve oneself in things where the reward is commensurate to the effort invested. We have little choice over this matter.

So many words; so little nudity.

Here's why you shouldn't normally go nude in public: Someone will complain, call the cops, and you will be arrested. The aftermath will be complex and costly and ruin several days of your life, possibly your livelihood and reputation.

That's the only real reason to avoid nudity in public.

a reply to: schuyler

well, that and the practical reasons that people started wearing clothes to begin with. Which, to be honest, I have no idea what they would have been. But it happened before we left Africa, but hundreds of thousands of years after we lost body hair.

But it is an interesting path to read up on. Im going back to reading some other stuff on it...maybe someone has some insight into the basis for our penchant for fashion.

originally posted by: Phage
Because naked people (women in particular) engender evil thoughts.
About sex and stuff. And that's bad. Can't be thinking about sex.

Because most sane people don't want their 2 year old daughters around some fat,nasty old guy with his business hanging out.

originally posted by: schuyler
So many words; so little nudity.

Here's why you shouldn't normally go nude in public: Someone will complain, call the cops, and you will be arrested. The aftermath will be complex and costly and ruin several days of your life, possibly your livelihood and reputation.

That's the only real reason to avoid nudity in public.

Well again I must disagree, you have teens with VD you have kids who don't wipe their arses and they sit on the benches and the restaurant chairs, animals like dangly things, you have sand, grass and bugs, skin cancer.... need I go on?

Yeah then there are flies!

a reply to: mOjOm

We should be able to accept each other and ourselves without being afraid of how we are made.

NOooooo Cover it up!

a reply to: 1984hasarrived

In Germany in the summer, many people will get nekkid in the public parks and sunbathe. No problems with guys getting over excited or ogling.

I know a guy in the UK who always insisted on vacations to Germany and nude beaches with his wife and teen girls, perverted selfish guy I don't believe your not ogling line at all.

originally posted by: SeaWorthy

originally posted by: schuyler
So many words; so little nudity.

Here's why you shouldn't normally go nude in public: Someone will complain, call the cops, and you will be arrested. The aftermath will be complex and costly and ruin several days of your life, possibly your livelihood and reputation.

That's the only real reason to avoid nudity in public.

Well again I must disagree, you have teens with VD you have kids who don't wipe their arses and they sit on the benches and the restaurant chairs, animals like dangly things, you have sand, grass and bugs, skin cancer.... need I go on?

Go on all you want. You're just reacting because you don't like it. My point is that I don't care if you don't like it. The only thing I care about is that the cops will show up. You're one of those guys who will call them. "Teens with VD"?? Really?

It is simply a practical decision. Because there are people like you in the world, it is impractical. I'm being completely self-serving. I really don't care what your fantasies are.

originally posted by: Night Star

originally posted by: hudsonhawk69
a reply to: Thetan

Since you bring it up? Is Western cultures insistence on keeping the body covered really any different from Muslims demanding that THEIR women cover up???

OMG, yes, yes it is very different! You should know this.

What difference? I see none. Covering up is covering up. One is the same as the other?

originally posted by: Thetan
Societies considerations on nudity absolutely fascinate me. Why do so many countries consider public nudity to be taboo or immoral? ...?

The smell. Good God, the smell.

If you think it is a problem getting people to take public transit now, what do you think will happen to ridership numbers when people have to share their commute on the same bus with 'Greasy-Mike' ?

a reply to: Leonidas

You really think clothing masks any odor?

a reply to: Phage

At least they hold fluids in. Most fluids. And if they don't, lie to me, I don't want to know.