How does one balance Islamophobia and homophobia?

a reply to: Abysha

Not exactly.

Because where it is a known fact that in a lot of the Middle Eastern Islamic countries you are looking at a long fall off a rooftop or something similar if you are discovered as gay, the same is not true in Israel which boasts a pretty large homosexual population and is very progressive on gay rights. You almost might confuse Tel Aviv with San Fran.

As for Christianity, there is a wide spectrum at work there from the African countries where it's still criminal to secular countries where it's legal and gay marriage is recognized and every denomination under the sun is working through their doctrine. Some will yield to this and others will not.

But first world countries aren't chucking gays off rooftops as official actions these days, and denominations that go as far as Westboro are the smallest minority.

But, yes, lets keep up with the moral equivalence.

If a gay person supported the freedom of all religions, then I'd buy that person a drink because that would show integrity in the face of adversity.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Don't you mean supporting Christians the freedom to discriminate?

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: DBCowboy

Don't you mean supporting Christians the freedom to discriminate?

I mean supporting to right to religious freedom.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Nobody is denying Christians the right to religion freedom.

a reply to: Deaf Alien

I see so may here hating on Christians, Muslims, anyone who worships anything.

Maybe you see it differently.

*shrugs again*

a reply to: DBCowboy

Like I said... discrimination is not something we all should embrace.

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: DBCowboy

Like I said... discrimination is not something we all should embrace.

I don't care what people do with their religion.

If it's not infringing on anyone's rights then who cares.

You don't have to be religious to discriminate.

a reply to: DBCowboy

I'm just dwelling on what you said:

If a gay person supported the freedom of all religions, then I'd buy that person a drink because that would show integrity in the face of adversity.

Gay people and liberals generally do support that. I don't understand why you would make a comment like that I guess.

a reply to: Deaf Alien

I see a lot of hatred and intolerance everywhere.

a reply to: DBCowboy

From the far left and the far right? And the Media?

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: DBCowboy

From the far left and the far right? And the Media?

Everywhere.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Then I agree with you

a reply to: ketsuko

The biggest problem with being gay is that you don't get to choose it. It chooses you.

This means that people end up being gay in the most unfriendly places like the middle east. They want to be gay even less than I did when I realized I was.

And that is the real issue. Religion in general hates us but we have no power to choose if, when and where we are gay or not.

Of God is up thete, he has a pretty mean streak in him allowing homosexuality to happen. Otherwise perfectly innocent people are marginalized and often are at risk of their own life over something as stupid as the gender they are attracted to.

a reply to: Profusion

Not true. I've met and communicated with many Muslims and haven't been disrespected. There are some who will judge too but really can't because they are working for the very same thing everyone else is too money.

Just as all religious text it all Is open to personal perception and unique practice.

Like poetry. You can relate to a small part yet be inept about the rest which is entirely relatives well.
Not all pros and cons of wisdom differ. In fact they are indicative is relation to another.

Religion segragates, degradates & inhillates a nation people& culture. If it didn't, this would never be an issue.

originally posted by: Profusion
If I were gay, you better believe I would be afraid of Islam.

Muslim States Ban LGBT Groups From UN Meeting

Is anyone paying attention? Islam is extremely anti-gay rights.

How does one balance Islamophobia and homophobia?

If you're pro-Islam, then you are taking a homophobic stance.

This is Orwellian. Being pro-Islam requires being anti-gay rights and yet the politically correct expect people to be pro-Islam and pro-gay rights simultaneously?

Here are the 10 countries where homosexuality may be punished by death

All ten of those countries are part of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation.

Quran (7:80-84) - "...For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds.... And we rained down on them a shower (of brimstone)" - An account that is borrowed from the Biblical story of Sodom. Muslim scholars through the centuries have interpreted the "rain of stones" on the town as meaning that homosexuals should be stoned, since no other reason is given for the people's destruction. (The story is also repeated in suras 27 and 29).

Quran (7:81) - "Will ye commit abomination such as no creature ever did before you?" This verse is part of the previous text and it establishes that homosexuality as different from (and much worse than) adultery or other sexual sin. According to the Arabic grammar, homosexuality is called the worst sin, while references elsewhere describe other forms of non-marital sex as being "among great sins."

Quran (26:165-166) - "Of all the creatures in the world, will ye approach males, "And leave those whom Allah has created for you to be your mates? Nay, ye are a people transgressing"

Quran (4:16) - "If two men among you are guilty of lewdness, punish them both. If they repent and amend, Leave them alone" This is the Yusuf Ali translation. The original Arabic does not use the word "men" and simply says "two from among you." Yusuf Ali may have added the word "men" because the verse seems to refer to a different set than referred to in the prior verse (explicitly denoted as "your women"). In other words, since 4:15 refers to "your women", 4:16 is presumably written to and refers to men.

Interestingly, the same rules don't seem to apply in paradise, where martyrs for the cause of Allah enjoy an orgy of virgins and "perpetual youth" Quran (56:17) (otherwise known as "boys" Quran (52:24)). Quran (76:19) bluntly states, "And immortal boys will circulate among them, when you see them you will count them as scattered pearls." Technically, the mere presence of boys doesn't necessarily mean sex, however it is strongly implied from the particular emphasis on the effeminacy, handsomeness and "freshness" of the boys. The female virgins of paradise are also compared to pearls (56:23).

What Does Islam Teach About...Homosexuality

And what's crazier than that is it is a common practice in muzlim countries for the men to go around buggering little boys...That's one nutso religion...

a reply to: Profusion
Why the hell do you care? You're not gay.

Don't you have anything else to worry about?

You're question is just an unnecessary headache self inflicted.

a reply to: ketsuko

The question was how can people support gays and not hate muslims, because hating gays is part of their religion. I think it's perfectly reasonable to suggest that by those rules you'd have to have to hate Christianity, Judaism, and all the other religions that implicitly disapprove of gays too. few people in this country hate all christians or jews, overzealous athiests notwithstanding.

I don't think it's necessary to hate one group because you support the other. However, what irks me is when someone constantly rags on Christianity for this reason, but won't touch Islam with a ten-foot stick. That's hypocrisy.

How does one balance Islamophobia and homophobia?

With Richophobia,bankerphobia,ceophobia,corporationphobia,gunphobia, and climatephobia.