EgyptAir flight from Paris to Cairo has vanished from Radar

Someone commented could it be a ground to air missile and thr plane swerved to avoid it.

originally posted by: angryhulk
So, as far as we can tell it has been declared a crash without formal identification of a crash or any debris, the plane went off the radar and a few eye witnesses saw a flame in the sky. 3 of the crew are rumored to be security personnel. More annoyingly it has taken a fleet of boats, choppers and military personnel all this time to come up with nothing given the area is pretty localised. I would have thought locating the wreckage (if any) would have been a little easier given the scenario.

Correct, President Hollande has also declared that the plane has crashed. Though I do believe that this is the truth, I have yet to hear disappearing plane being declared a crash before finding debris (I might be mistaken though, is this a usual case?), that leads me to believe that some have info that we are not privy to.

originally posted by: angryhulk

Debris has been found in the search for the EgyptAir plane that crashed into the Mediterranean Sea with 66 people on board after the jet went into a sudden spin and plunged 22,000ft before vanishing off the radar.

DEBRIS FOUND

Source

Just seen this - hopefully this will help get to the bottom of this...

originally posted by: anxiouswens
Someone commented could it be a ground to air missile and thr plane swerved to avoid it.

There was a military person on CNN who said this is unlikely as the missile would have to be from a naval ship to be sophisticated enough to hit a target at that altitude... also you would expect contact to be lost upon impact (I guess?) as opposed to being able to track the altitude drop and directional changes.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: angryhulk

Debris has been found in the search for the EgyptAir plane that crashed into the Mediterranean Sea with 66 people on board after the jet went into a sudden spin and plunged 22,000ft before vanishing off the radar.

DEBRIS FOUND

Source

Just seen this - hopefully this will help get to the bottom of this...

Yep just confirmed here also, now I'am waiting for some footage.

a reply to: fabpoli

Nope

a reply to: Agit8dChop


my wife is from the island where the plane went missing. apparently there were Turkish military exercises going on near the area. if the plane had issues there are multiple islands in the agean which could accomadate a A320

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greece.greekreporter.com...

a reply to: WeSbO

The fact that the plane crashed is obvious. What is not know at this stage is what lead to the crash. It's semantics, they haven't 'declared' anything official. They have stated a fact, that the aircraft crashed into the sea.

Its worth noting that less than 10% of incidents occur while a plane is at it's cruising altitude. So if you want to speculate my money is on a deliberate action causing the aircraft to explode and break up in mid air.

Ground to air missile attack is unlikely in the middle of the sea, so by a process of elimination, based on the current detail, it looks like something happened within the plane.

originally posted by: redshoes
a reply to: WeSbO

The fact that the plane crashed is obvious. What is not know at this stage is what lead to the crash. It's semantics, they haven't 'declared' anything official. They have stated a fact, that the aircraft crashed into the sea.

I guess we do not have the same thought process then, I don't declare anything as fact before having concrete proof, interpretation has no place in a situation like this. But we can agree to disagree on this.
It wouldn't have bothered me if they said "we think it may have crashed here"

a reply to: Hellas

As you said, the plane took off from France. It didn't, however, crash in Greece.

France has a navy and a Mediterranean coast. Of course they would send ships.

I really have no idea what you are alluding to.

it sounds as if there may have been trouble in the cockpit.... maybe one of the pilots done it deliberately and there was a scuffle, its all ifs and buts till they find the black box.... which shouldn't be that difficult compared to last time......... and any way why cant these black boxes be tracked to their precise location, it seems to me like the first thing to be put inside it as well as a recording device. A TRACKING DEVICE!!!

originally posted by: Ares2493
a reply to: Agit8dChop


my wife is from the island where the plane went missing. apparently there were Turkish military exercises going on near the area. if the plane had issues there are multiple islands in the agean which could accomadate a A320

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greece.greekreporter.com...

From your link -

Four Turkish F-16 jet fighters, three naval aircraft and six helicopters on Monday entered the Athens FIR without submitting flight plans. There were 18 violations of traffic rules in the Athens FIR that evolved in 42 violations of national airspace at different points of the Aegean Sea. None of the Turkish aircraft were armed. In all cases, the Turkish aircraft and helicopters were recognized and intercepted by Greek fighter planes. The Turkish flight activity is part of the military exercise Beyaz Firtina conducted in international waters throughout the Aegean.

Quite an amount of activity there the last couple of days.

originally posted by: angryhulk

originally posted by: Ares2493
a reply to: Agit8dChop


my wife is from the island where the plane went missing. apparently there were Turkish military exercises going on near the area. if the plane had issues there are multiple islands in the agean which could accomadate a A320

edit link
greece.greekreporter.com...

From your link -

Four Turkish F-16 jet fighters, three naval aircraft and six helicopters on Monday entered the Athens FIR without submitting flight plans. There were 18 violations of traffic rules in the Athens FIR that evolved in 42 violations of national airspace at different points of the Aegean Sea. None of the Turkish aircraft were armed. In all cases, the Turkish aircraft and helicopters were recognized and intercepted by Greek fighter planes. The Turkish flight activity is part of the military exercise Beyaz Firtina conducted in international waters throughout the Aegean.

Quite an amount of activity there the last couple of days.

agreed. turks violate airspace way to often in greece. we see f16 chase them out of Karpathos airspace all the time.

a reply to: WeSbO

this is the exact place for interpretations of what may have happened, this is a conspiracy website! But im sure every forum that this news is in people will be coming to conclusions about who, what, why and where but the bottom line is the "truth" is not always "truth". personally i hope aliens have took them to a place much nicer than this and they are not at the bottom of the med. There has been a lot of beef between Western and Arab country's, i just hope this event doesn't escalate that any further.

And now all the conspiracy angles involving possibly questionable military agencies will sprout....with 0 evidence...

originally posted by: jappee
And now all the conspiracy angles involving possibly questionable military agencies will sprout....with 0 evidence...

Picked the right website for it.

a reply to: Davg80

Spouting conspiracy theories just for the sake of doing it doesn't seem like a reasonable thing to do. If there is some evidence pointing to a particular theory then sure let's discuss it.

originally posted by: beyondtruth
a reply to: Davg80

Spouting conspiracy theories just for the sake of doing it doesn't seem like a reasonable thing to do. If there is some evidence pointing to a particular theory then sure let's discuss it.

Opening your mind to possibilities is never a bad thing. You might just open up a line of thought that makes sense.

So by 'Spouting conspiracy theories' - I assume you mean, 'innocently discussing possibilities'

a reply to: beyondtruth
Exactly...I'm waiting for the "Red Mars was crossing the blue Moon over the aircraft...PROOF it was martians!!!" So yeah I like to have a bit more meat to wrap with tin foil..