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Noahic Curse: "Japheth dwells in the tents of Shem"

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posted on May, 18 2016 @ 08:15 PM

Noahic Curse: "Japheth dwells in the tents of Shem"


This work is presented as a speculative theory, based upon inconclusive personal-opinions and personal-conclusions of religion and history.

I adhere to no religion, and am not here to promote, propagate, or sell any ideology,... nor is this thread a platform to denounce or refute any religion or people.

By the use of religious sources, we seek to better understand the views of the religious, as well as the atmosphere of the time.

I am not a Jew-hating anti-Semite, for my heart of hearts realizes that all humans are of one family. Jews, Israelis, and all humans of any and all belief, or lack thereof, are held to me as dear brothers/sisters.

I do not support the uprooting of anyone living in the Levant, regardless of religion, ethnicity, or lineage. I support the safe, free, open, and dignified living of all.

I am not a separatist nor supremacist, for I am of the conviction that only Love, Unity, and Compassion shall cure the ailments and woes of mankind.


Has the Noahic Curse come to pass?

Does Japheth now reside in and control the State of Israel?

We will explore these ideas through history, politics, genetics, and the foreshadowing of Biblical prophecy.

(To some, Biblical narratives and genealogies tend to be rather boring, tedious, and debatable. However, the back-stories and lineages highlighted in this op are crucial for the discussion. In an effort to occupy as little of the reader's time as possible, we will be skipping and condensing many events.


I. Noahic Dispersion

II. Rise of Israel and the First Fulfillment of Noah's Curse

III. Hebrew-Israelite and Jewish Diaspora

IV. The Palestinian People

V. Formation of the State of Israel

VI. Ashkenazi Jews and the Second Fulfillment of Noah's Curse

posted on May, 18 2016 @ 08:15 PM

Noahic Dispersion


Throughout land and time, many genera, species, and lineages of man have migrated near-and-far and to-and-fro. Earth has been traversed and settled several times over. Many distinct factions of man have developed through migration, changes in climate and habitat, peaceful exchange, and violent conflict. Cultural and societal innovations arose, both independently from the common mind of man, and through the sharing of ideas between separate peoples.

Within the folklore of man, there is an account detailing the Prehistoric and Ancient cultural foundations, upon which our modern world sits. Our discussion begins with a legendary man named Noah.

Long ago, at a time barely memorable, there lived a man named Noah. From his loins, sprang three sons, all of whom went on to become the patriarchs and founders of many tribes and nations.

(”Landscape with the Peace Offerings of Noah” by Joseph Anton Koch)

¡ (It is my opinion that the Noahic migration began somewhere in NorthEastern Africa, the Levant, or the Fertile Crescent during the late-Pleistocene to early-Holocene eras of glacial retreat.

It is not my opinion that Noah's family and descendants were the only humans on Earth, rather, they migrated into previously settled regions and significantly impacted the indigenous natives through assimilation, conquest, and/or displacement. The indigenous natives included different species of man, along with isolated societies of ancient migratory Homo Sapiens Sapiens.)

Summary of Noah's Sons

The three sons of Noah were named Shem, Ham, and Japheth:

(“Shem, Ham, and Japheth” by J. James Tissot)

Shem's children and descendants (Semites) spread throughout Western Asia. Shem has been linked to the Hebrews, Israelites, Jews, Arabs, and Bactrians.

Ham's children and descendants (Hamites) set root in the Levant, Egypt, and Africa.

Japheth's children and descendants (Japhetites) established nations throughout Anatolia, the Caucasus, the Balkans, and Europe. Japhetites have been linked to the Proto-Indo-European and Indo-European peoples.

For reasons obscure and debatable, Noah uttered a prophetic curse unto Ham, by way of Ham's son Canaan;

"Cursed be Canaan [Son of Ham]! He shall be a slave unto the servants of his brothers! Bless Yahweh, the God of Shem! Canaan shall be the slave of Shem! God, exalt Japheth and may he dwell in the tents of Shem and have Canaan as his slave!"
(Genesis 9:25-27)

Through this prophecy, we will examine the main characters; Canaan, Shem, and Japheth.


Summary of Canaan

Canaan, youngest son of Ham, established the "Land of Canaan," and was the patriarch of the Canaanites. Their's was the territory from Sidon, Lebanon to Gaza, Palestine. Canaan's descendants became the Phoenicians, Hittities, Jebusites, Amorites, Girga#es, Hivites, Arkites, Sinites, Arvadites, Zemarites, and Hamathites.

The Philistines also occupied the Land of Canaan. The Philistines were Hamites, originating from the Casluhim, who were of the descendants of Mizraim, who was the second son of Ham.

These Canaanites and Hamites, along with the Ammonite, Moabite, and Edomite descendants of Shem, were the original inhabitants of the Promised Land.


Summary of Shem's Sons

The descendants of Shem are known as Semites. The children and descendants of Shem spread throughout the Fertile Crescent, Arabia, and Bactria. The five sons of Shem were classically associated with specific peoples and nations.

Elam was known as the patriarch of the Elamites. The land of Elam was adjacently-east of Mesopotamia, and stretched into southern Persia.

Asshur was the founder of the Assyrian people. The land of the Assyrians lay directly north of Babylonia.

Arpachshad is known as the progenitor of Chaldea and Ur.

Lud is associated with the Mediterranean nation of Lydia.

Aram is the father of the Syrian Aramaeans, whose land lay between the lands of Lud and Asshur.

These, and all of their descendants, are the Semites.

posted on May, 18 2016 @ 08:16 PM

Hebrew Branch of the "House of Shem"

Arpachshad, of Ur, had a son named Salah.
Salah had a son named Eber.

Eber is the Patriarch of all Hebrew people (B'nei Eber), for the word "Hebrew" is derived from his name. He had two sons, the first is Peleg, and the second is Joktan.

Joktan had 13 sons. These sons led two major migrations out of Chaldea. Some of the siblings migrated south along the eastern coast Arabia, and then turned westward toward Africa. These migrating children of Joktan went on to become the forefathers of the ancient "Pure Arabs" (Qahtanian Arabs [Qahtan/Joktan]) of Southern Arabia and Yemen, and the Hebrew-Semites of Ethiopia and the Horn of Africa. The other siblings migrated east into Bactria and India.

Peleg, eldest son of Eber, had a son named Reu.
Reu was the father of Serug.
Serug was the father of Nahor.
Nahor was the father of Terah.
Terah was the father of 3 sons named Abram (Abraham), Nahor II, and Haran.

Haran was the father of the infamous Lot, who escaped the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. Lot had two daughters, who went on the become the mothers of Moab and Ammon, thus being the Matriarchs of the Moabites and Ammonites.

Abram (Abraham), son of Terah, lead the entire "House of Terah," out of the land of Chaldea, and traveled toward the Land of Canaan. Haran died in Ur before the migration, however, his children accompanied the migrating family. The family settled in Haran (Paddan Aram / Aram Naharaim). The patriarch of the family, Terah, and his son Nahor II, lived in this region for the rest of their lives. After spending some years in Haran, Abraham travelled with the rest of his house-hold to Canaan, where they settled and dwelt all the days of Abraham.

¡ (A minority theorizes that Abraham was initially from the Indus Valley and migrated to Sumeria, and then to the Land of Canaan afterward.) !

Abraham's House

Abraham had 8 sons named Ishmael, Isaac, Zimran, Jokshan, Medan, Midian, Ishbak, and Shuah.

Ishmael, first-born of Abraham, had 12 sons and went on to become the Patriarch of the Ishmaelite Arabs. The 12 sons of Ishmael settled in northern Arabia and became known as "Arabized Arabs," (Adnanite Arabs [Adnan]) later dominating the entire Arab world. Islam's Prophet Muhammad is said to have been descended from Ishmael, through the Tribe of Quraysh.

Isaac, Abraham's second son, was father to the twins Esau and Jacob (Israel). Esau became the forefather of the Edomites, while Jacob became the Patriarch of the Israelites.

Abraham's 6 remaining sons; Zimran, Jokshan, Medan, Midian, Ishbak, and Shuah, migrated south, and began to settle and integrate with the "Pure-Arabs" and African Hebrew-Semites descended from Joktan. They were later acculturated into the body of “Pure” and “Ismaelite” Arabs.
(”Ar-Raheeq Al-Makhtum” (The Sealed Nectar) by Safiur Rahman Mubarakpuri)

posted on May, 18 2016 @ 08:16 PM

Rise of Israel and the First Fulfillment of Noah's Curse


Isaac, second son of Abraham, was the father of Jacob.
Jacob, whose name was later changed to Israel, had 12 sons; Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Issachar, Zebulun, Joseph, and Benjamin. The sons of Jacob and their subsequent descendants became the "Tribes" and "Children" of the "House of Israel."

Joseph, 11th son of Israel, was sold into slavery by his jealous brothers. He found himself enslaved in the land of Egypt, and through a streak of good fortune, later became the vizier and advisor of Pharaoh.

(“Joseph Riding a Chariot” Illustrated Bible by Charles Foster)

¿ (Could it be possible that Joseph's ascent to power has some historic correlation with the Hyksos rule over Egypt?) ?

(”Asiatics, possibly the Hyksos, Aamu, Shasu, or Habiru” mural in the Beni Hasan tomb of Khnumhotep II)

¡ (Egyptologist and author, Ahmed Osman, has theorized that Joseph may be the Egyptian courtier Yuyah (Yu-Sef of Yahweh). !

(“Funerary Mask of Yayu” in the Cairo Museum)

After several years had passed, a great famine struck the land of Canaan. To escape the famine, Israel (Jacob) and his house-hold migrated from Canaan into the land of Egypt. By a remarkable turn of fate, Israel and his sons became reunited with the long-lost Joseph. Through Joseph's elevated position within Egyptian society, his family reaped the benefits of the prosperity and comfort they sought.

(”Jacob and His Family Move to Egypt” by Saul Raskin)

¿ (Could it be possible that the migration of Israel (Jacob) and his sons into Egypt correlates with the historic Shasu?) ?

(“Libyan, Nubian, Syrian, Shasu Bedouin, and Hittite” Prisoners of Ramesses III, Medinet Habu)

After the deaths of Israel, Joseph, and his brothers, a succeeding Pharaoh began to fear for his authority and the Egyptian status quo, as the descendants of Israel became exceedingly fruitful. Through the fear and apprehension of a strengthening minority, the Egyptians decided to enslave the Hebrews

(”Hebrew Slaves” by Aranthulas)

¿ (Could the enslavement of the Hebrew-Israelites by the Egyptians have a historic basis in the bondage of the Shasu or Habiru?) ?

(”Libu, Shasu Bedouin, Canaanite, Asiatic, and Denyen” Prisoners of Ramesses III, Medinet Habu)

Enslavement, oppression, and male infanticide befell the Hebrew-Israelites by the hand of Pharaoh. Years later, there arose a Hebrew hero named Moses. Through good fortune, Moses was spared from infanticide and raised in the house-hold of Pharaoh.

After his Semitic origins were revealed, Moses organized and gathered the Hebrew-Israelite slaves, and began a campaign to ensure their well-being and emancipation. Moses held court with Pharaoh, pleading for the freedom of the Hebrew-Israelites; "Let my people go!" Repeatedly, Pharaoh refused Moses' requests. When the words of Moses weren't strong enough to influence Pharaoh, YHWH, God of Israel, sent forth 10 Plagues upon Egypt. As a result of the Divine Punishments and the death of Pharaoh's first-born son, the Hebrew-Israelites were finally given their freedom.

¿ (Could YHWH of the Israelites have a correspondence with Yahu of the Shasu?) ?

(“The land of the Shasu of Yahu” inscription at the temple of Amun Ra at Soleb)

YHWH, God of Israel, commands Moses and the Hebrew-Israelites to leave Egypt and migrate to the Land of Canaan. As the Hebrew-Israelites begin their exodus out of Egypt, Pharaoh's heart became consumed with anger and rage. He sets-out with his army in pursuit of the Hebrew-Israelites, in a campaign to avenge all that has befallen the Egyptian empire.

Pharaoh and his army encountered the Hebrew-Israelites on the edge of the Red Sea [¿Sea of Reeds ?], and orders a full charge. Moses, then turns to the sea, strikes down his staff, and parts the waters by the power of YHWH. The Hebrew-Israelites flee through the rift and make a full crossing of the waters. As the Egyptians make gain, their entire legion is consumed by the waters as the sea returns to its original form.

¿ (Could the defeat of the Hyksos and their expulsion from Egypt serve as the basis of the Hebrew-Israelite Exodus?) ?

(“Ahmose I fighting the Hyksos)

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posted on May, 18 2016 @ 08:16 PM

After a few years traveling, Moses and the Hebrew-Israelites came upon the southern border of Canaan. 12 spies were sent into Canaan to survey the land and its inhabitants. The reports of the espionage campaign revealed that the land was fruitful, bountiful, and beautiful, however, the residents of the land were detailed as giants of great stature, dwelling in large fortified cities.

The Hebrew-Israelites then began to fear the inhabitants of the Land of Canaan, rebelled against Moses and YHWH, and desired to dwell elsewhere other than Canaan. As a consequence of the faithlessness of the Hebrew-Israelites, YHWH declared that they shall wander the wilderness until that entire generation has perished, for the Land of Canaan shall instead be given to their children. Then after, the Hebrew-Israelites wandered the wilderness for 40 years.

(“Moses in the Wilderness” by Clive Uptton)

¿ (Could the nomadic lifestyles of the Habiru and Shasu have a historic connection to the wandering in the wilderness of Moses and the Israelites?) ?

When the 40 years of wandering through the wilderness had passed, Moses initiated command of several battles in route to the Land of Canaan. They battled Midianites, Amalekites, Amorites, and Canaanites. Moses died in the land of Moab, near the border of Canaan.

¡ Some scholars, researches, and archeologists speculate that the Hebrew-Israelites actually arose within the Land of Canaan, instead of being an outside invading force. It is speculated that the Hebrew-Israelites are a direct offshoot of the indigenous Canaanite people. !

Upon Moses' death, Joshua was declared leader of all the Children of Israel, and led the war-ready Hebrew-Israelites into the Land of Canaan. The followers of YHWH successfully conquered the land, and established the foundations for the land allotment of the Tribes of Israel and the monarchal United Kingdom of Israel.

With the Canaanites conquered by the Hebrew-Israelites descended from Shem, the first part of Noah's curse was fulfilled:

"Cursed be Canaan! He shall be a slave unto the servants of his brothers! Bless YHWH, the God of Shem! Canaan shall be the slave of Shem!"
(Genesis 9:25-26)

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posted on May, 18 2016 @ 08:17 PM

Hebrew-Israelite and Jewish Diaspora

The United Kingdom of Israel later split in two, giving us the southern Kingdom of Judah and the northern Kingdom of Israel.

During the mid-8th Century BC/BCE, the northern Kingdom of Israel was conquered by the Assyrians, while the southern Kingdom of Judah was able to defend their territory and sovereignty.

(Assyrian Exile)

However, during the 6th Century BC/BCE, the Kingdom of Judah finally fell to the Babylonians. The fall of both kingdoms saw the expulsion and exile of many Hebrew-Israelites, with the Assyrian Exile and Babylonian Captivity marking the first full diaspora.

(Babylonian Exile)

Many Hebrew-Israelites of Samaria escaped significant deportation, and were able to remain in the area. Samaria encompasses the area cradled between the Kingdom of Israel and the Kingdom of Judah. These Hebrew-Israelites later came to be known as Samaritans.

(Samaritan Elders)

Nearly half a century after the Babylonian Exile, Babylon fell to the Persians. The Hebrew-Israelites of the former Kingdom of Judah were granted a right of return by Persia's Cyrus the Great. The Hebrew-Israelites returning from the Babylonian Exile went on to rebuild the Temple, thus marking the Second Temple Period. As the Hebrew-Israelites of the northern Kingdom of Israel never received a formal right of return, all Hebrew-Israelites later became collectively known as Jews, becoming synonymous with the return of the southern Hebrew-Israelites of the former Kingdom of Judah (Judah/Judea = Jew).

(Rebuilding the Temple)

¡ It is interesting to note that a point of contention lays with the Samaritans, regarding the returning Babylonian exiles. The Samaritans claim that the Hebrew-Israelites of the Kingdom of Judah went into exile in Babylon, and returned with a different Torah and a new book, i.e., the Babylonian Talmud. In fact, the Babylonian Pentateuch and the Samaritan Pentateuch contain numerous discrepancies.

(Yaacob ben Aaharon ben Shalma, Samaritan High Priest)
(Abisha Scroll)

(Samaritans with the Pentateuch)

The post-exilic Babylonian Hebrew-Israelites also returned with a foreign Aramaic script (Ashuri) that went on to replace the original script of the Hebrew-Israelites (Paleo-Hebrew), and also brought a new Babylonian-inspired calendar. This Babylonian-influenced form of Judaism went on to become Pharisaic Judaism, and later evolved into today's mainstream Rabbinical Judaism.

¡ Regarding the Pharisees:

Is it possible that Jesus believed the Pharisees to be corrupt Babylonian impostors? In the Canonical Gospels, Jesus often calls the Pharisees hypocrites, wicked, evil, greedy, thieves, robbers, and liars.

Jesus went so far as to deny that they were "Planted by God," or that they were "Children of Abraham" or the "Children of God," but were instead "Children of the Devil" and "Children of Snakes."

Through war of the empires, Persian control of the "Promised Land" shifted to Macedonian authority, and then to Seleucid control. After the decline of the Seleucid Dynasty, Judea came under independent sovereignty. However, during the First Century BC/BCE, the Roman Empire conquered Judea.

During the First and Second Centuries AD/CE, the Jews launched unsuccessful uprisings against their Roman occupiers. As a consequence of the Jewish-Roman Wars, Jerusalem was laid to ruins, the Second Temple was destroyed and defiled, and many Jews were slaughtered, enslaved, forbidden from practicing their faith, and exiled from Jerusalem and its vicinity, thus marking another diaspora.

(“Arch of Titus”, Via Sacra, Rome)

Various empires continued the foreign occupation and control over the Promised Land, and the Jews remained in a state of diaspora until the State of Israel was declared in 1948.

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posted on May, 18 2016 @ 08:17 PM

Palestinian People

Because the Promised Land had been conquered and reconquered throughout the ages, there is no historic sovereign, autonomous, nor collective "Palestinian People." The "Palestinian Identity" is a fairly new ethnic/geographic identification that developed during the fall of the Ottoman Empire, the drafting of the British Mandate of Palestine, and the declaration of the State of Israel.

In a generic and general sense, a Palestinian includes all non-Jews of Palestine who do not belong to a distinct outside nationality or ethnicity. To say that Palestinians are merely Arabs or Muslims is an incredible injustice to history.

The modern day Palestinians descend from a true melting pot. Linguistically and politically, Palestinians have modernly become Arabized, however, their genes trace back to the ancient Philistines, Canaanites, Phoenicians, and other indigenous Levantines. Former Hebrew, Israelite, Jewish, and Samaritan converts throughout the centuries also added to the genetic makeup of the Palestinians. Additionally, traces of the occupying conquerors and empires throughout time also contributed to the Palestinian fabric.

(Sea People)

(“The Phoenicians”, by al-Brazyly)

(“Peleset” (Philistine) Prisoners of Ramesses III, Medinet Habu)

”Philistine Warrior 1000 BCE”, by Johnny Shumate)

For centuries, the people of Palestine have adhered to a vast array of religions, denominations, and sects, and weren't rallied under a single religious banner. Religion was an individual and family choice amongst the people of Palestine. Palestinians were found to be followers of Christianity, Islam, Samaritanism, Judaism, and Druzism, amongst other belief systems. In fact, many of the former Hebrew, Israelite, Jewish, and Samaritan converts changed their family and surnames to reflect their new Christian or Islamic faiths, thusly, becoming “Palestinians”.

The Palestinian People are an assimilated mixture of all known peoples that have inhabited or occupied the Promised Land from the prehistoric, ancient, and common eras.

posted on May, 18 2016 @ 08:18 PM

Formation of the State of Israel


As is widely known, the Jews of Europe faced a rise in general anti-Semitism during the Eighteen and Nineteen Hundreds, and were subjected to a tremendous burden of inhumanity by the Nazi regime of Adolph Hitler during World War II. Once the Allied Forces defeated the Nazi and Axis Powers, the world beheld glimpses into the genocidal campaign of Hitler's eugenics programs. The whole of mankind beheld the concentration camps and extermination facilities. We saw the emaciation of the Jewish prisoners and heard their stories. We learned of humans being humiliated, violated, abused, raped, murdered, imprisoned, tortured, starved, and executed. We even discovered the horrific use of human experimentation.

(Auschwitz Concentration Camp)

(Jewish Concentration Camp Prisoners)

In a show of empathetic and compassionate solidarity, much of the world lent their support to the establishment of a Jewish national homeland. Through the combined efforts of various Zionist movements, the United Nations, and other global powers, the establishment of a Jewish national homeland in Palestine was endorsed, and the State of Israel was declared a reality on May 14, 1948.

The momentum to found the State of Israel was well under way prior to both World Wars. Between the 1800's and mid-1900's, there were many emigrations of Jews into Palestine, many being organized and initiated by various Zionist organizations, the Jewish Brigade of Britain, Tilhas Teezee Gesheften, and the Mossad LeAliyah Bet of Haganah.

Interestingly, decades before the rise of the Third Reich, the Royal Government of Britain pledged its support for the establishment of a national homeland for Jews in the territory of Palestine, to; Lionel Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild.

Foreign Office

November 2nd, 1917

Dear Lord Rothschild,

I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet.

"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."

I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.

Yours sincerely,

Arthur James Balfour

(The Balfour Declaration)

(Early Jewish Settlers)

Throughout the Nineteenth to mid-Twentieth Centuries, Palestine saw a steady and increasing trend of Jewish emigration. As the decades progressed, the Jewish population of Palestine increased, along with the growth of their communities and settlements, which caused a kindling growth of concern amongst the, then-current, residents of Mandatory Palestine and the surrounding Arab and Muslim nations, tribes, and peoples. Distrust, anger, hate, violence, death, and war soon consumed the area.

(Hamas Militants)

The media and general population of the world became increasingly aware of the various levels of fighting, intifada, violence, and war that waged between the Israelis/Jews and the Arabs, Muslims, and factions such as the Palestine Liberation Organization, al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades, the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, and Hezbollah. To this very day, the region remains steeped in sporadic hostility, violence, and war.

To protect Jewish immigrants, settlements, and to expand territorial claim, such armed groups as Bar-Giora, Hashomer, Haganah, Irgun, Lehi (Stern Gang), Palmach, and the Tnu'at HaMeri HaIvri began operations. The campaigns initially focused on defensive and protective measures. However, as the years went on, civil tensions rose and the armed Jewish groups turned towards offensive and preemptive hostilities, intimidations, attacks, land seizures, and the forced expulsion of Palestinians. These armed Jewish groups, amongst others, later dissolved, with many members going on to establish and join the Israeli Defense Forces, Israeli Intelligence Community, and the Israeli Government.

posted on May, 18 2016 @ 08:18 PM

Through war, displacement, the forced expulsion of Palestinians from their ancestral lands, and by voluntarily fleeing the turbulence of the country as political refugees, today, the Palestinian People and their descendants make up the largest global demographic segment of people residing outside of their native country. The ending of the Jewish diaspora marked the beginning of the Palestinian diaspora.

Many attempt to marginalize the Palestinians in favor of the Israeli Jews, simply because the "Palestinian Identity" is a modern classification and there was no centralized or collective “Palestinian” culture or nationality prior to the fall of the Ottoman Empire. As true as this may be, the greater truth remains that the Palestinians hold a direct link to all known ages of the Promised Land. Furthermore, at the earliest organization and establishment of the State of Israel, the Palestinian People did indeed live in the land that had been inhabited by their ancestors. Even before the great aliyot emigrations of the Jews, the Palestinian People worked the land and lived in long-established communities, villages, and towns throughout the Promised Land.

Throughout the last several decades, the suffering on all sides of the conflict has been insurmountable. Precious and beautiful human life has been lost and wasted in an ever-continuing cycle of reprisals. Normal humans live every day in fear, sorrow, and uncertainty. Provoked, unprovoked, defensive, offensive, retaliatory, and vengeful violence has gone on for so long that it is foolish to point a finger of blame at a single individual or single faction. The violence must cease in a spirit of reconciliation, understanding, and compassion without any more blame.

As mentioned in the foreword disclaimer, I do not support one group above another, nor do I support the uprooting of any people from the Promised Land. We are all one human family and should share the whole Earth with compassion. However, if we speak of the Biblical claims of land and the right of return for Jews,... we are hypocrites to ignore the prehistoric, ancient, and modern ties to the land and right of return for the Palestinian People also.

"Can we all get along?" - Rodney King

posted on May, 18 2016 @ 08:18 PM

Ashkenazi Jews and the Second Fulfillment of Noah's Curse


By far, the largest demographic group of Jews that have emigrated to the Promised Land are those of European nationality. These Jews, excluding the Jews from Iberia, Italy, and the Balkans (Sephardi Jews), have come to be collectively known as Ashkenazi Jews. As Central and Eastern Europe were held to be the land of Japtheth’s grandson; Ashkenaz, the Jews inhabiting this land consequently became known as the “Jews of the Land of Ashkenaz”. The Ashkenazi Jews found themselves spread throughout Europe as a result of the many exiles, expulsions, diasporas, and turmoil throughout the centuries. Their history in Europe has given the Ashkenazi Jews a unique culture, including distinct Halakhic practices and the Yiddish language. Today, the Ashkenazi Jews make up more than 80% of the world’s Jewry.

Although the Ashkenazi Jews only make up about 0.14% of the global human population at 10 to 11.2 million people, it becomes difficult to ignore this group when considering the greater collective of mankind. Jews, in general, have always had a role in both Western and Near-Eastern history, and the Ashkenazi Jews, in particular, have made significant contributions to our modern world. A fair amount of intellectuals and Nobel laureates hail from Ashkenazi ancestry, with many others holding positions of great influence, power, wealth, and dignity.

Their abundance of accomplishments and contributions are remarkable and awe-inspiring. Far from an exhaustive inquiry, this is only a small example:

Rothschild Family
George Soros
Henry Kissinger
Vladimir Lenin
Theodor Herzl
Karl Marx
Albert Einstein
Sigmund Freud
J. Robert Oppenheimer

Jewish Virtual Library
"Famous Jews" (Ranker)

Relating to the original Noahic Curse of the thread, today, the Ashkenazi Jews wield a great deal of power and authority within the State of Israel. As the majority in both Jewish ethnicity and influence, it is for this reason that we will delve deeper into the origins of the Ashkenazi Jews. The exploration and research into the Ashkenazi genome has uncovered a few interesting facts.

Firstly, Ashkenazi Jews are most definitely related to all other Jewish groups spread throughout the world. All ethnic groups of Jews, including the Ashkenazi, share several founders originating from the Middle East around and before 2,000 years ago. I present no debate or contest to the Jewish Peoplehood of the Ashkenazi.

Genetic testing has identified the first major divergence of the Ashkenazi Jews from the rest of Jewry. A medieval founding population of roughly 350 individuals accounts for the origin of the Ashkenazi. This founding population bottleneck has revealed an admixture of Middle Eastern and European genes, arising as a result of the diasporic Jewish populations migrating through Europe. Regarding the Ashkenazi, Professor Itsik Pe'er concludes that; "Everyone is a 30th cousin". This study also links the Ashkenazi to a shared ancestry with Palestinians, Bedouins, Druze, and the inhabitants of the Fertile Crescent.

Supporting the above research, in 2013, an international team concluded that the Ashkenazi Jews are descended from a few female founders of Southern European origin.

"We found that most of the maternal lineages don’t trace to the north Caucasus, which would be a proxy for the Khazarians, or to the Near East, but most of them emanate from Europe."

"This suggests that, even though Jewish men may indeed have migrated into Europe from Palestine around 2,000 years ago, they seem to have married European women."

- Professor Martin Richards, University of Huddersfield in England

posted on May, 18 2016 @ 08:19 PM

These Southern European matriarchal genomes are, in my opinion, linked to Japheth, through Gomer.

Japheth, son of Noah, is believed to have been associated with the Proto-Indo-Europeans and Indo-Europeans. Japheth's eldest son, Gomer, traversed the northern Mediterranean and Galatia, becoming the patriarch of the Gauls, Cimmerians, and Cimbri people. Gomer begat three sons; Ashkenaz, Riphath, and Togarmah.

Ashkenaz is associated with the Scythians, Sarmatians, Rheginians, and later placed in Rhineland and Greater Germania.

Riphath is equated with the Paphlagonians, associated with the Riphean Mountains, and mentioned as the father of the Celts of Central and Western Europe.

August Wilhelm Knobel proposed that Riphath begat the Celtic peoples, who according to Plutarch had crossed from the Riphaean Mountains while en route to Northern Europe.


Noah Webster wrote that the earliest geographers applied the term to the Alps in Switzerland and claimed that they are the source of the Danube.

Togarmah is held as the father of the Turkic, Caucasian, and Khazarian peoples.

The Khazar ruler Joseph ben Aaron (c. 960) writes in his letters:

"You ask us also in your epistle: "Of what people, of what family, and of what tribe are you?" Know that we are descended from Japhet, through his son Togarmah. I have found in the genealogical books of my ancestors that Togarmah had ten sons."

In one of the most controversial and hotly-debated studies to date, a team of researchers published data which appears to link Ashkenazi Yiddish speakers, both genetically and linguistically, to the Turkish area of ancient Khazaria.

The Yiddish language is over one thousand years old and incorporates German, Slavic, and Hebrew elements. The prevalent view claims Yiddish has a German origin, whereas the opposing view posits a Slavic origin with strong Iranian and weak Turkic substrata.

An analysis of 393 Ashkenazic, Iranian, and mountain Jews and over 600 non-Jewish genomes demonstrated that Greeks, Romans, Iranians, and Turks exhibit the highest genetic similarity with AJs. The Geographic Population Structure (GPS) analysis localized most AJs along major primeval trade routes in northeastern Turkey adjacent to primeval villages with names that may be derived from “Ashkenaz” (İşkenaz, Eşkenez, Aşhanas, and Aschuz). Iranian and mountain Jews were localized along trade routes on the Turkey’s eastern border. Loss of maternal haplogroups was evident in non-Yiddish speaking AJs.

Linguistic evidence suggesting that Yiddish is a Slavic language created by Irano-Turko-Slavic Jewish merchants along the Silk Roads as a cryptic trade language, spoken only by its originators to gain an advantage in trade. Later, in the 9th century, Yiddish underwent relexification by adopting a new vocabulary that consists of a minority of German and Hebrew and a majority of newly coined Germanoid and Hebroid elements that replaced most of the original Eastern Slavic and Sorbian vocabularies, while keeping the original grammars intact.

"Localizing Ashkenazic Jews to primeval villages in the ancient Iranian lands of Ashkenaz "

Ranajit Das, Paul Wexler, Mehdi Pirooznia, and Eran Elhaik

These genetic studies are listed, not to support the Khazarian Ashkenazi Theory, but rather, to illustrate the factual migration of the Ashkenazi Jews out of the Promised Land and into Europe, which contributed to their unique genetic heritage. It is this heritage that sheds light on the latter half of the Noahic Curse:

"Cursed be Canaan [Son of Ham]! He shall be a slave unto the servants of his brothers! Bless YHWH, the God of Shem! Canaan shall be the slave of Shem! God, enlarge Japheth and may he dwell in the tents of Shem and have Canaan as his slave!"
(Genesis 9:25-27)

As we have gathered, the lands and people associated with Japheth have indeed been enlarged (empowered). As the Ashkenazi Jews share a matriarchal genetic heritage with the Japhethic European people, "dwelling in the tents of Shem", may refer to the Semitic-Jewish and Southern European admixture of genes found in recent studies. As the Ashkenazi hold great numbers and influence, "the tents of Shem", may also refer to controlling and inhabiting the territory historically associated with Shem, i.e., the Promised Land and State of Israel.

A slave is one who is defeated, subjugated, and controlled. Could this “enslavement” of Canaan be in reference to the re-conquest of the Promised Land,… Israel’s Six Day War victory,… and/or Israel’s military and political dominance of the area?

The Ashkenazi, being very Jewish, immigrated out of the Promised Land and into Europe. They traced the very migration paths of Japheth, Gomer, and his sons. Through this common journey, the Ashkenazi Jews inherited DNA from these ancient Japhethic patriarchs. Could the rise and prestige of the Ashkenazi Jews in our modern era, be the fulfillment of the Noahic Curse?

posted on May, 18 2016 @ 08:34 PM

Lots of work into this or a lot of c&p.

I can't tell what's yours.

posted on May, 18 2016 @ 08:36 PM
Wow, you obviously put a lot of effort into this. I haven't read through all of it yet but I will definitely bookmark it to read through later.

This is the type of content that brought me to ATS, bravo on your efforts here.


posted on May, 18 2016 @ 08:52 PM
a reply to: burgerbuddy

The only copy/paste are the attributed quotes.


a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Thanks! That's one heck of a compliment. I hope you enjoy the thread

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posted on May, 18 2016 @ 10:08 PM

edit on 18-5-2016 by JohnthePhilistine because: nonsense

posted on May, 18 2016 @ 10:12 PM
Incredible work, and interesting! bravo!

posted on May, 18 2016 @ 10:25 PM
Bookmarking, and will read later. It looks like a good read!

posted on May, 19 2016 @ 06:26 AM
Congrats OP ...It was a good read and had some interesting points I want to look further into .

The post-exilic Babylonian Hebrew-Israelites also returned with a foreign Aramaic script (Ashuri) that went on to replace the original script of the Hebrew-Israelites (Paleo-Hebrew), and also brought a new Babylonian-inspired calendar. This Babylonian-influenced form of Judaism went on to become Pharisaic Judaism, and later evolved into today's mainstream Rabbinical Judaism. !
Do you know of any scholarly work done on comparing the two ? ... Thanks for making this thread and it will be fun to follow .....peace

posted on May, 19 2016 @ 07:09 AM
a reply to: the2ofusr1

I want to add a link to a book by Dr. Earnest L Martin called "The People that History Forgot " The book is in both Audio and Text .....As part of the introduction

The first part of this book will show some modern archaeological discoveries that have caused amazement among scholars who study the history of early Judaism and Christianity. Indeed, the word "shock" would better describe the reaction of many historians, particularly those who are Jewish scholars. What has caused this "shock"? The historical research in this book will explain the reason. It will show what those surprising archaeological remains are and how their modern discovery actually reveals the existence of a people (presently unrecognized by scholars) who have mysteriously disappeared from the records of history about fourteen hundred years ago. In this book those people are re-discovered. The second part of the book reveals other archaeological finds that impinge upon the interpretation of the discoveries mentioned in my first paragraph. They also affect the understanding of the early history of the Roman Empire, and consequently that of Judaism and early Christianity. This second group of discoveries involves the research of scholars in the first part of the 20th century who analyzed the remains of over 13,900 Latin inscriptions found primarily in Italy. The result of that survey profoundly altered the past understanding of the racial history of the period from before the time of Jesus to that of Constantine in the 4th century. But strangely, most historians today are not discussing the significance of this survey regarding those inscriptions (or they give no heed to the evidence) and consequently the general public knows little or nothing about the importance of these discoveries. But these archaeological remains are as significant in understanding early Judaism and Christianity, or more so, than even the Dead Sea Scrolls.

This book can explain some of the peoples issues due in part to something similar to what we see today with the refugees flooding Europe .His book picks up a similar situation but 2000 years ago .

posted on May, 19 2016 @ 07:50 AM
a reply to: Sahabi
Very in depth write up, and I appreciate that you did not just post endless wikipedia links to back it up.

My first comment would have to be on the desert wandering. I don't think it had anything to do with living like ancestral nomads, I think the point was far more practical. Moses had a twofold aim: he wanted to create a functioning military, and he wanted to let the old generations die off. The elders held great influence over the tribes, and Moses was proficiently at work trying to reorganize the power structure.

Forty years would have been roughly a generation, which would have allowed many men to reach military age, as well as eliminated the competition.

As for their relationship to the Shasu/Hyksos, I think your theory is as plausible as any. Very thought provoking.

Second point is more general; just wanted to point out that people(s) claiming ancestry from certain groups (and in particular sacred groups) are not necessarily accurate. Throughout history divine ancestors have been used (or fabricated) as a means of legitimizing authority.
Moses himself may have done this as a way to gain control over the Hebrews after he was disgraced in Egypt (this thread on Atenism is rather intriguing and worth a read). I suspect he (or others) may have done the same with the 12 Tribes... a sort of 'sacred patriarch' tying disparate groups together.

The Samaritans are an interesting study and I shall endeavor to read more on them. The New Testament does seem to indicate Jesus' hatred for the Pharisees with the numerous references to the 'Synagogue of Satan' et al. The Talmud certainly is a different book than the Torah - more like a vengeful critique than a sacred text.

Anyhow. The suggestion that modern Israel may be trying to fulfill Bible prophecy seems plausible. I sincerely hope prophecy is not the stupid cause of so much suffering... but likely it is.

Once again, good write up, and so much more scholarly and intelligent than all the rants and garbage that dominates the front page. This is the sort of thing I signed up to read. Cheers!

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