Good new UFO video from /r/UFOs

originally posted by: BASSPLYR

originally posted by: In4ormant
a reply to: BASSPLYR

OR you could stop being a tool and explain what electronic countermeasures you say they are.

I dont want that kinda attention from certain folks. There are those reading my posts above and know exactly what im talking about.

Besides I already told you guys what it is, just not how it works. You can use the clues and find out for yourself.

Thats a pretty flexible usage of the term tool btw.

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While the video is LIKELY a composite due to me seeing
video noise freeze-framing and then restarting while the
light continues to blink, BASSPLYR is referencing a technology
where either a charged gas or metal powder is superheated
to form a charged plasma which is used to confuse heat-seaking
(i.e. infrared-based) Air-to-Air or Ground-to-Air missile systems.

The charged plasma can ALSO be used to confuse advanced
pure-vision recognition systems which use SOBEL edge detection
to find targets by creating area of false brightness. It can also be
used to create FALSE OUTLINES for confusing LIDAR/RADAR systems
and of course, it can also be used for FRIENDLIES to highlight/paint
an enemy target or outline a specific Area of Operations which
computer systems can reference and lock-in or lock-out
to-or-from targeting and fire-control systems.

Gas Plasma or Ignited Charged Metal Powder Plasma
(i.e. Aluminum or Magnesium-based) is easy to carry,
inert at altitude during carry and generally safer than
older flare technology.

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I won't get into Plasma Sheathing for artificial/virtual
wing surface creation (i.e. push the atmosphere out of the way)
and active LIDAR/RADAR stealth cuz that's a different area
of use for charged plasmas.

a reply to: StargateSG7

I found a patent dealing with plasma generating devices as countermeasures...cool.😎
www.google.com...

ABSTRACT The invention relates to a plasma torch generator employed in a device or system that can be used to protect aircraft or vehicles from IR and UV seeking or tracking mechanisms. In one embodiment, the invention comprises a deployable broad spectrum, IR and UV emitting device containing the plasma torch, which can function as a countermeasure flare. The plasma torch can be used with a powered flare or housing that can be launched.

originally posted by: johnthejedi24
a reply to: StargateSG7

I found a patent dealing with plasma generating devices as countermeasures...cool.😎
www.google.com...

ABSTRACT The invention relates to a plasma torch generator employed in a device or system that can be used to protect aircraft or vehicles from IR and UV seeking or tracking mechanisms. In one embodiment, the invention comprises a deployable broad spectrum, IR and UV emitting device containing the plasma torch, which can function as a countermeasure flare. The plasma torch can be used with a powered flare or housing that can be launched.

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And to add to the discussion, plasma-based systems
can ALSO be used on the ground as very fast confined
space intrusion technology, where ultra hot plasma can
cut through ROCK and STEEL like butter which is useful
for entry into concrete bunkers and steel-plate doors!

And one technology, that we used to work on, was to
confine plasma balls within a magnetic field and use
linear induction coils to launch them very much like
a "Rail Gun". It made a great ignition source since
the launched plasma balls would cut through oil
and gas drums like nothing else and ignite them
from quite the distance! MANY KM distance!

They never worked as a kinetic energy device
(aka Star Trek-like Plasma Cannons) because
aerodynamic forces tended to dissipate or tear
apart the plasma balls unless sufficient energy
was inbibed into the confined plasma to keep
it intact over very long distances. The natural
world's equivalent is "Ball Lightning".

One INTERESTING thing that DID come out
of that 1990's/2000's era research, was the concept
of a Plasma Spear where we literally created
a virtual aero-foil (long thin wing-form) where
a charged plasma surrounded a metallic spear/rod
such that the atmosphere was able to be pushed
out of the way AND enough charge was embedded
into the plasma that it could overcome aerodynamic
forces acting upon the outer plasma sheathing to
prevent the missile-like plasma-based aero-planform
from dissipating like a fiery mist.

The rod provided the kinetic energy to do
the damage on a target and the plasma sheath
provided the aerodynamically-slippery coating
to ensure speed-of-delivery and enough ignition
power to set local materials ablaze OR ignite
secondary explosions in stored munitions.

I suspect an active system based upon
that RnD is now deployed with US forces!
in some cases, velocities GREATER than
35,000 KPH were attained in just the
research systems, and design-wise
60,000+ KPH was the stated goal!
THAT is a LOT of FIREPOWER
in a rod of plasma!

To me it seemed legit up until the other light came out. Then it looked pretty fake.

You can also get it to generate radio frequencies. Microwaves. Sound. Intense emp.

originally posted by: metalmana6211
To me it seemed legit up until the other light came out. Then it looked pretty fake.

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Just to re-iterate teh backgroundnight-time video was real.

...BUT...the blinking light starting blinking during a period
when the video footage was freeze-framed which indicates
compositing. The TYPE of noise tells me a guess of Canon
Powershot (maybe a Canon 7D at the outside!) or an older
Nikon/Pentax series --- too much noise for a Sony A7s mk1 or mk2
(or the camera operator doesn't know his A7s camera if it is!)

The colour of the sky says the camera has a good chip,
so if it IS a cell phone video then its gotta be a
Samsumg Note/LG3/Sony Xperia2 at least!

originally posted by: BASSPLYR
You can also get it to generate radio frequencies. Microwaves. Sound. Intense emp.

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YUP I've heard of Charged Metal Plasma balls being used
as ECM (Electronic Counter-Measures) to jam specific
frequences usually in the 600 to 900 MHZ band,
1600 to 2700 MHZ bands (Cell/Radio) and of course
10 GHZ to 30GHZ radar and satellite comm bands.

The EM pulsing effect you get from plasma depends
upon the composition and stability of the
plasma BUT you can easily create "Burster Balls" which
can create fairly decent EMP pulses for temporary
disruptions. You will need extensive copper tubing,
conical and/or patterned waveguides and then higher
explosive power to get a plasma to create HIGH POWER EMPS!
Not impossible, just more expensive using smaller plasma-based
systems than large conventional explosives for generating
powerful EMP pulses.

a reply to: StargateSG7

You guys have some awesome insights into these subjects. I thought all protection now-a-days was still deployed or fixed Chaff,Flares, Decoys, ECM and laser jammers like LIRCM and DAIRCM. Cool stuff.😎

I know special forces have employed Plasma cutters/Torches in the past for forcible entry and breaching.

a reply to: StargateSG7

They can use lasers too to tickle the plasma and get it to produce the rf and other things.

a reply to: Triton1128

Taking a wild guess with my aviation background (and I have been known to nail objects within 200 feet of my guesses.) Based off the video takers position and the angle at which he pointing the camera up from the horizon and the distance from which he appears to be from the object, assuming the object is roughly the size of a house give or take 1/2, I'd say its about 7000-9000 feet AGL (above ground level.)

a reply to: Benicealways

Looks like a flare to me but a long way away ?

originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: StargateSG7

They can use lasers too to tickle the plasma and get it to produce the rf and other things.

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There could be a whole'nother thread to discuss plasma-based
aerodynamic sheathing, ECM, RF Modulation for long range communications,
Acoustic wave generation, Aero of Operations marking and even as a general
weapon's system...BUT...for this thread I am still curious as to WHY the
UFO video PAUSED and the background video noise STOPPED its movement,
yet the white light CONTINUED to blink while teh video was freeze framed?

WHY did this happen unless it's fake or did localized time stop?

originally posted by: johnthejedi24
a reply to: StargateSG7

You guys have some awesome insights into these subjects. I thought all protection now-a-days was still deployed or fixed Chaff,Flares, Decoys, ECM and laser jammers like LIRCM and DAIRCM. Cool stuff.😎

I know special forces have employed Plasma cutters/Torches in the past for forcible entry and breaching.

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Actually, we NOW have a much better system for hardened target breaches!
Tubes of High Pressure Water and an embedded abrasive in excess of 100,000 PSI.

See Cylinderal Stress Information:
en.wikipedia.org...

Try this equation:

P = 2st / ( ( d - 2t ) * SF )

P = max. working pressure (psig)
s = material strength (psi)
t = wall thickness (in)
d = outside diameter (in)
SF = safety factor (in general 1.5 to 10)

taken from:

www.physicsforums.com...

The tube is activated using a small internal explosive which
pushes a corundum plug (usually sapphire) out of the way
which then allows a stream of high pressure water and abrasive
(garnet?) to stream out and cut through metal, glass, ceramic
like butter!

The tube is very heavy about 1.5 feet long and about
3 inches in diameter but the speed of cutting and it's
relative quietness in the low-frequency acoustic range
AND it's VERY low heat output (no flame!) make it rather
ideal for entry operations.

They (not DARPA -- one of the Army Research Labs if I remember correctly)
are trying to make the tubes lighter and smaller but
trying to find something that can withstand 100,000 PSI
OR MORE isn't so easy! My guess they will need to goto
a Carbon single-wall or multi-wall nanotube construction
for extreme lightweight and extreme pressure resistance.

I saw a demo about a year ago in Canada (outside of Toronto)
of this very technology which Army Research seemed very
impressed with! I haven't much else lately on it though!

aren't many so called UFOs actually government spy drones?

a reply to: GrandCourtJester

yeah, they could be. they could be anything from a spydrone to secret tech aircraft but no object of ordinary physics known to us would be capable of erratic maneuvers sudden disappearing. like i said in my previous post, i personally have witnessed one that was flashing green. my experience also fits with the one reported by the turkish airlines pilots a few days back. interestingly, it found a way into the headlines of the turkish msm.

originally posted by: GrandCourtJester
aren't many so called UFOs actually government spy drones?

Who knows. You don't. I don't. The government certainly won't say.

This almost certainly isn't however. Nor a flare, or a helicopter.. who knows what it was. I'm sure many will claim it's some random black project.. it's a great last resort when everything else has been ruled out. What possible argument is there when someone bleats "Black project!" There is none, because it possibly could be. I personally don't think all truly unknowns are black projects.. as I don't think they randomly test them over non-military airspace, and even less so over foreign soil.

a reply to: Benicealways

Interesting video of similar orbs

Where are all the geeks who specialize in analyzing video. This is the best footage of a UFO I have seen in a long while.

A light that multiplies can of course be some high tech I know nothing of, only fantasize about lol but seriously... WHAT IS IT??

a reply to: MamaJ

If your comment is about the video above then it looks much like this which is a flare attached to an helium balloon.

a reply to: gortex

Im referring to the video in the OP