European Islamophobia Report 2015

a reply to: dollukka

All you need to do is read news from Europe.. local news.

The daily fail isn't even close to actual "local news", rather daily food for crackerbarrels.

Hyperbole means business and the MSM is full of it.

No-go-zones are rather crime-related and cars burn here in Germany on a regular basis. Mainly expensive high-quality vehicles, obviously no muslim related background involved either.

But I really enjoy the way you reaffirm your sanity with all that crap. Great job ignoring the data in my OP btw, congrats! Didn't expect anything less, given all the fearmonger threads you authored recently. I had some really funny moments with them as well, so yeah. Thanks for your contribution, I guess...

a reply to: PublicOpinion

High tech right ? Finnish cars are pretty much out of date considered to german cars..
But if they are i am sure you can link manufacturers reply on those "accidents" ?

originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: deckdel

Considering just today in Bosnia, Europe, huge load of arms intended for islamists in Sweden were caught and folks detained - - I cannot but concur the islamophobia is more than well founded.

Of course it is, remember the rise of al Qaeda in Afghanistan? No?

Let’s begin in 1979 in Afghanistan, where the Moujahedeen (“holy warriors”) were in battle against a secular, progressive government supported by the Soviet Union; a “favorite tactic” of the Moujahedeen was “to torture victims [often Russians] by first cutting off their nose, ears, and genitals, then removing one slice of skin after another”, producing “a slow, very painful death”. With America’s massive and indispensable military backing in the 1980s, Afghanistan’s last secular government (bringing women into the 20th century) was overthrown, and out of the victorious Moujahedeen arose al Qaeda.

www.foreignpolicyjournal.com...

Well done, fricken US of A! Well done! And you wanna blaim muslims for terrorism now? Guess who's been duped bigtime, while supporting the crap you allegedly hate with tons of tax-Dollars?
And nope, I won't even start to go into US support for the Royal Pigs of Saudi Arabia.

Instead, why shouldn't I start to think the weapons you mentioned are actually just more cloak & dagger exports from the US?

Yes the nice Russians and the nice secular progressive Afghan government. Load of BS.

Of course during the cold war the US and the west opposed the Russian invasion of Afghanistan and supported the fighters who fought the Russians. It's a lot more complicated.

The Soviet–Afghan War lasted over nine years from December 1979 to February 1989. Insurgent groups ("the Mujahideen") fought against the Soviet Army and allied Afghan forces. Between 850,000–1.5 million civilians were killed[26][27] and millions of Afghans fled the country as refugees, mostly to Pakistan and Iran.

Prior to the arrival of Soviet troops, the pro-Soviet Nur Mohammad Taraki government took power in a 1978 coup and initiated a series of radical modernization reforms throughout the country.[29] Vigorously suppressing any opposition from among the traditional Muslim Afghans, the government arrested thousands and executed as many as 27,000 political prisoners. By April 1979 large parts of the country were in open rebellion and by December the government had lost control of territory outside of the cities.[30] In response to Afghan government requests, the Soviet government under leader Leonid Brezhnev first sent covert troops to advise and support the Afghan government, but on December 24, 1979, began the first deployment of the 40th Army.[31] Arriving in the capital Kabul, they staged a coup,[32] killing the Afghan President, and installing a rival Afghan socialist

en.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: JimTSpock

That's a nice straw-man! So you folks don't support 'moderate' muslims at all? You did so with the Moujahedeen and I bet Erdogan isn't the only NATO Oiligarch supporting IS.

I get your sentiment. Hate (especially against muslims) is perfectly understandable and we should nuke the ME, put them back on boats, yadayada.

Let me ask you one thing then: would you grant muslims the same right to hate Westerners then? How are we supposed to keep this spiral of hate going when you don't love each other equally hard?

a reply to: dollukka

Point was not the car, but that they might burn for different reasons. Depends on the arsonists background, don't you think so? More than "me thinks it's un_finnish" maybe?

Comedy gold, actually. No need for more links anyway, the OT should suffice. Thanks for the ride, carry on!

a reply to: PublicOpinion

I just find your denial utterly comical. So how do you explain these things never happened before until this year? carry on

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Because they do not commit their violence in the name of Christianity. They do it for money.

No where did I say the extremists represent all of the Muslims. But if Christians world wide started blowing people up you could probably be wary of them .. You agree?

I see isis as Islam because the leader has a Phd in Islamic studies. maybe several degrees. I see muslims worldwide causing havoc on innocent people for what reason?

So yeah, the Mexican drug cartels are not calling themselves kids of Jesus Christ and blowing up markets, muslims are.

a reply to: dollukka

Could you open a thread for your issue, please? I'm really looking forward to the impact on ATS, you'll probably get tons of stars as well! I'll show up (first!) to comment further on that topic, promise!

a reply to: tinner07

I'm wary of every car I happen to come across, but I don't let 'em feel my hate (for fricken blind idiots) as long as they don't cut my lane on the bikeway (again) when I do my 30km/h...

What's your point?

Besides, a lot of people die due to car-drivers, sadly I don't hate them all for that. Wish I could. Nice ride there in your avatar btw, hope it goes sideways like a solid fairlady?

Call me crazy,

.....but when Millions of refugees invade your land, rape women, come in droves of 90% fighting age MEN, may not be 'refugees' in the first place, have not been vetted, trample your neighborhoods, set up their own cultural centers, attack native citizens, demand services, block roads, hijack ships, attack truckers and trucks, trash the streets....while demanding Sharia Law.

While ISIS is intermingles with them...

On MIGHT just have a 'phobia'. It's so BIZARRE to see that some people think that the native citizens are part of the 'divide and conquer'. What the? Huh?

originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Mmm, I can see you badly want to connect the dots.

Bastardized or not, it works, they recruit people, however you trying to say Mexican Drug Cartels have the same modus operandi I would say you are being disingenuous.

So tell me, why is Islam worth defending and Christianity is not?

They both suck imo, yet, BS is BS when spewed forth.

Drug cartels are engaged in the business of moving illegal drugs for profit and seeks no converts to any religion. ISIS is engaged in killing people for world domination through the forced belief in their basterdized version of Islam.

How are these the same? Your analogy is not an analogy. It is simply the type of pandering produced by sjw's according to the agenda they have been spoon-fed by their psychological handlers.

Cheers - Dave

I guess when Europe stopped Hitler....they were 'hateful bigots' and "Naziphobic'

Some of the logic I'm seeing here is so backwards it makes me wonder about some peoples' sanity.

a reply to: bobs_uruncle

Some of the "SJWs" I see post here say things that to me come from a completely different world, so foreign I can't grasp it.

It's like they would allow their own family and friends to be killed to prove some point, that they're 'accepting' or 'tolerant'.

I just don't get it in the slightest.

a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

Read Niemöller a second time maybe, what's your point? Hate from a few justifies more hate?

And who's going to stop this Kindergarden, God or Aliens?

originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

Read Niemöller a second time maybe, what's your point? Hate from a few justifies more hate?

And who's going to stop this Kindergarden, God or Aliens?

Should Europe invite their own genocide? "tolerate" it?

a reply to: bobs_uruncle

Folks like Escobar used the same methods, didn't they? Terrorism is a strategy hence the analogy resonates with me. And let's not forget all those car-bombs in Italy either, the cosa nostra is pretty ruthless as well.

originally posted by: BatheInTheFountain
a reply to: bobs_uruncle

Some of the "SJWs" I see post here say things that to me come from a completely different world, so foreign I can't grasp it.

It's like they would allow their own family and friends to be killed to prove some point, that they're 'accepting' or 'tolerant'.

I just don't get it in the slightest.

I hear ya. We should have road signs that say "Crazies Ahead."

Cheers - Dave

originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: bobs_uruncle

Folks like Escobar used the same methods, didn't they? Terrorism is a strategy hence the analogy resonates with me. And let's not forget all those car-bombs in Italy either, the cosa nostra is pretty ruthless as well.

The ANC (Mandel's group) did it in Africa as well and would be a better analogy. They used fear, extortion and terrorism to promote a Marxist ideology to overthrow goverments. They killed their own people as well as others, some targets were lucky, like me. Others died in a flurry of nails, nuts and bolts in pipe bombs.

Comparing religion and ideology is a bit more palatable than equating religion and business. Even though religion is big business lol.

Cheers - Dave

originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: tinner07

I'm wary of every car I happen to come across, but I don't let 'em feel my hate (for fricken blind idiots) as long as they don't cut my lane on the bikeway (again) when I do my 30km/h...

What's your point?

Besides, a lot of people die due to car-drivers, sadly I don't hate them all for that. Wish I could. Nice ride there in your avatar btw, hope it goes sideways like a solid fairlady?

Do cars drive through your house, rape your daughter, explode for no reason in your malls and airports?

a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

What? Do yourself a favour, stop crapping into your pants and start to actually put something up which isn't the result of mere hyperbole.

All I see are a rise of islamophobia and way more attacks from right wingers on innocent refugees, especially here in Germany. And don't bring up this Cologne BS from New Years eve, just morer hyperbole. Research, maybe? Been there, done that. Trust me or don't, I couldn't care less.