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Mandela Effect: Product of The Great Harvest? (Ra Material/Hidden Hand)

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posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 11:21 AM
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I have searched the Internet to see if anyone else has made a connection between the Mandela Effect and the supposed Great Harvest (a spiritual evolution process discussed in the Ra Material and the Hidden Hand dialogue). I've not found anything that's suggested the two may be connected, so maybe this is a first, maybe not. If anyone knows of any please link.

What makes me think there is a connection is many have noticed many "changes" with the world. There is talk of shifting, an alternate dimension, reality or timeline.
Now, both the Ra Material, the Hidden Hand dialogue and other material talk of the Great Harvest where (extreme layman's terms here) graduating souls shift from 3rd to 4th density, positive or negative depending on their polarity. Those who don't make the grade are moved to a "replica earth" until the next Harvest.

This was said to supposed to happen around 2012. There was a lot of buzz about this leading up to that time but I think many were disillusioned when nothing earth shaking happened on 2012 and there is almost zero talk on the subject now, but there was also talk of this process being a gradual, subtle, almost un-noticable event.

The talk a replica earth and shifting in these materials makes me wonder if this is what many are noticing now with these Mandela Effects.


Ra Material

V. WHAT IS THE DENSITY LEVEL OF PLANET EARTH NOW?

RA: Your planet is 3rd density in the beingness of its peoples, but the planet is now in a 4th density space/time continuum. (B1, S13, 133)

V. HOW DOES A 3RD DENSITY PLANET BECOME A 4TH DENSITY PLANET?

RA. The 4th density is as regularized in its approach as the striking of a clock upon the hour. Your planetary sphere has spiraled into space/time of a different vibrational configuration.

This causes the planetary sphere to be molded by these new distortions. However, the thought-forms of your people vary greatly and are not able to point in one direction.

Thus the harvest will be such that many will repeat the 3rd density cycle. The energies of your Wanderers, your teachers, and your adepts at this time are all bent upon increasing the harvest. However there are few to harvest. (B1, S13, 133)

[Note: Elsewhere Ra tells us that even in the harvest of Venus, a highly positive third-density planet, only 20% of the population graduated.]

RA: The harvest is now. There is at this time no reason to aim for longevity, but rather to encourage efforts toward seeking the heart of the self, for this which resides clearly in the violet-ray energy field will determine the harvesting of each person. (B1, S14, 138)


VI. THE UPCOMING HARVEST INTO 4TH DENSITY

A. EARTH WILL BECOME 4TH DENSITY POSITIVE

QUESTION: The Earth seems to be negative. So why will Earth go into 4th density positive instead of 4th density negative?

RA: For those of harvestable quality, those oriented in the ways of service to others greatly outnumber those whose orientation is toward service to self. (B1, S17, 166)

B. WHO GOES WHERE?

QUESTION: As we enter the 4th density there will be a 3 way split. (B1, S16, 151)

(1) Harvestable entities of positive polarity will remain for 4th density experience on this planet

(2) Harvestable entities of negative polarity going to another 4th density planet

(3) Unharvestable entities going to another 3rd density planet.

Is this correct? (B3, S63, 89)

RA: This is correct but the positively oriented harvestable entities will remain in this planetary influence but not upon this plane. (B3, S63, 89-90)



Hidden Hand dialogue

During this Ascension, there will be a three way split for those Souls inhabiting Earth. Those of the predominantly Negative Polarity, will accompany us as we Graduate through the Negative (or Service to Self) Harvest. We (Lucifer) will Create a new 4th Density Earth, based on the Negative Self Service Polarity. We must 'work off' our own part of the Negative Karmic effect incurred from all the Negativity created on this planet. Once we have done so, we will be released to once again assume our place as Sixth Density Guardians and Teachers of Wisdom throughout the Galaxy.

Those of the predominantly Positive Polarity (Love and Light) will Ascend to a beautiful new 4th Density Earth, where you will begin to work upon your learning and demonstrating of Love and Compassion. It will be a very beautiful and "Golden" Age. The 4th Density begins to open you up to your True Powers as a unique individualized aspect of The One Infinite Creator. You will perform works and wonders of the like that the one you call "Jesus" promised you would do "and even greater things than these". It will be a very magical time for you.

For the majority of Humans on the earth who could be considered shall we say "luke warm", they will experience a period of (what will feel 'ecstatic') zero-point time, where you feel totally at One with The Creator, giving you an encouraging reminder and glimpse of who you really are, before the veil of forgetfulness once again descends upon you, and you will be transported to another 3rd Density planet (a kind of 'Earth Replica'), to continue working upon yourselves and learning that life here is all about making choices. You will remain "quarantined" incarnating in 3rd Density matter until the time of the next Harvest; in which time you will need to have proved yourselves that you have learned how to be more Positive Beings, focused more upon being of Service to others, rather than seeking only to Serve yourself. When you can do this, and the next Harvest comes, you will have earned the right to join us, and enjoy your inheritance, as a member of the Galactic Community, and you will sit with us as Brothers and Sisters of The One, around the table of our Galactic Governing Body, the Confederation of Planets. (reply posted on 20-10-2008 @ 12:01 AM by Hidden_Hand).

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posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 11:33 AM
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I'm in the middle of reading the Ra Material now. This is an interesting take on the Mandela effect I hadn't thought of. It may be a good possibility of whatever it is that's going on.



posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 12:06 PM
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a reply to: Ruiner1978


Those who don't make the grade are moved to a "replica earth" until the next Harvest.

Wouldn't that result in a gradual decrease in the population count surrounding you when you jump into another reality via Law of Attraction ?

Last week i was watching a small helicopter head my way about 200m above ground and 500m away.

Then it turned to its starboard and vanished. i thought 'oh must be the sun reflection and the gray cloud behind'. However, the drone vanished as as well.

i even put a comment on ATS about it noticing to my dismay that ATS was still piled full of Doom Porn. In other words, nothing had changed at all and so far everything is still operating as normal.
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posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 12:10 PM
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ra material is rubbish it states that there are only 8 densities when there are 12. Source Alex collier.
we are moving into 5th density not fourth. Source alex collier.



posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 01:08 PM
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originally posted by: Rapha
a reply to: Ruiner1978


Those who don't make the grade are moved to a "replica earth" until the next Harvest.

Wouldn't that result in a gradual decrease in the population count surrounding you when you jump into another reality via Law of Attraction ?

I have no idea Rapha, I really don't.
I'm just sharing a correlation I've noticed between a phenomena apparently affecting thousands of people and metaphysical teachings I've read about.
If we must get into technicalities, I don't know if I can answer adequately.
Technically, yes I suppose there would be a decrease in population due to souls going to different places. Maybe there are mechanics involved to counteract this? Souls harvested from other places to replace the bodies of souls gone elsewhere? NPCs (non playable characters)?
I don't know...



posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 01:16 PM
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originally posted by: StephenHope
ra material is rubbish it states that there are only 8 densities when there are 12. Source Alex collier.
we are moving into 5th density not fourth. Source alex collier.

I'm pleased for you that you've found yourself an absolute authority on the subject.
I find it more interesting though, to keep everything on the table and not be dismissive due to technicalities and slight variants of what MIGHT be...
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posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 01:25 PM
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originally posted by: Ruiner1978
NPCs

Lol. Now there is an abbreviation that you didn't have to explain.

Always wondered if every person that has role-played is about to jump into a reality where their ideal RPG will become reality.



posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 01:33 PM
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originally posted by: Rapha

originally posted by: Ruiner1978
NPCs

Lol. Now there is an abbreviation that you didn't have to explain.

Always wondered if every person that has role-played is about to jump into a reality where their ideal RPG will become reality.

Lol. No dragons or scrolls that make you go blind for me so far...



posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 01:43 PM
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The Ra material is new-age garbage. The little bit of 'science' in it (as opposed to the enormous amounts of semi-scientific sounding nonsense) is demonstrably incorrect. Likewise, the Mandela Effect can be fully explained by the known faults with human memory. The only connection between the two, is they're both ridiculous.
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posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 01:50 PM
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I read the Ra material, then I looked up Carla Rueckart the author; English major and script writer/actor for sci fi and religy trash films. Just another religy hippy.

The more you read it the more frustrated you get because if one were to actually contact such a being, much better questions could have been asked.

Also the Mandel effect is ridiculous, words are spelled differently and the answer is alternate reality.



posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 01:55 PM
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originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance
The Ra material is new-age garbage. The little bit of 'science' in it (as opposed to the enormous amounts of semi-scientific sounding nonsense) is demonstrably incorrect. Likewise, the Mandela Effect can be fully explained by the known faults with human memory. The only connection between the two, is they're both ridiculous.

Thanks for the imput.
Although I'm more interested in contribution from people who have actually read the material and/or had actual experience with Mandela Effects...



posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 01:58 PM
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originally posted by: IntimateCat
Also the Mandel effect is ridiculous, words are spelled differently and the answer is alternate reality.

There's more to it than that.
See above post...



posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 06:44 PM
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a reply to: Ruiner1978

I agree on your post. I am in this shift



posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 07:16 PM
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originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance
The Ra material is new-age garbage. The little bit of 'science' in it (as opposed to the enormous amounts of semi-scientific sounding nonsense) is demonstrably incorrect. Likewise, the Mandela Effect can be fully explained by the known faults with human memory. The only connection between the two, is they're both ridiculous.

Thanks for the imput.
Although I'm more interested in contribution from people who have actually read the material and/or had actual experience with Mandela Effects...

I've read the Ra stuff, and I remember 'Berenstein', but hey, thanks for making baseless assumptions about me.



posted on Apr, 30 2016 @ 07:28 PM
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originally posted by: StephenHope
ra material is rubbish it states that there are only 8 densities when there are 12. Source Alex collier.
we are moving into 5th density not fourth. Source alex collier.


Ralph Amagran, who later changed his name to Alex Collier claims that his reason for the name change was to protect his family. Yet, he fails to mention that under his old name he spent time in federal prison and that charges were pressed against him for pulling a Bill Cosby ( drugging and raping a woman ).

I personally feel that he is a fraud and has no motivation behind his works other than $. Besides, The Ra Material and Hidden Hand's conversation both contain much wisdom consistent with ancient truths i.e. Ancient Egyptian teachings.

There are 8 densities. 7 true densities since the 8th is pure light in itself. If you disagree, then please try to summarize Collier's descriptions of 3rd, 4th, and 5th densities.



posted on May, 1 2016 @ 03:01 AM
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You may believe on the Mandela Effect. But you should remember that there are only a few of you.

I myself don't buy it. Same as the RA. It's entertaining but should not be taken seriously. You don't want to live as lunatic. Same as Hidden Hand. It's utter bull crap.



posted on May, 1 2016 @ 05:11 AM
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originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance
The Ra material is new-age garbage. The little bit of 'science' in it (as opposed to the enormous amounts of semi-scientific sounding nonsense) is demonstrably incorrect. Likewise, the Mandela Effect can be fully explained by the known faults with human memory. The only connection between the two, is they're both ridiculous.

Thanks for the imput.
Although I'm more interested in contribution from people who have actually read the material and/or had actual experience with Mandela Effects...

I've read the Ra stuff, and I remember 'Berenstein', but hey, thanks for making baseless assumptions about me.

Not really baseless considering your statements though are they. It's not so far out to suppose you've only read parts of the material and not all five books with your own preconceptions and bias only allowing you to view the little material you actually read dismissively and without open mind due to your stance on it. And you see ME as just bad memory and not an actual thing.
This subject is clearly of no interest to you and you have nothing of interest to add.
Kindly move along.
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posted on May, 1 2016 @ 05:30 AM
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originally posted by: boozo
You may believe on the Mandela Effect. But you should remember that there are only a few of you.

I myself don't buy it. Same as the RA. It's entertaining but should not be taken seriously. You don't want to live as lunatic. Same as Hidden Hand. It's utter bull crap.

Belief is a strong word. I'm just entertaining the ideas.
My mental health is fine and I'm pretty much grounded. I do find it odd how you'd throw that in there though, highly suggestive of you.

Opinions can completely change in the blink of an eye, rendering them all pretty much worthless.
I find this interesting, no matter what your opinion.
How dull a life to instantly dismiss as bull crap without wonder... (and yes, this too is opinion, and of no worth, so no need for reply. If you don't buy it quit hanging outside the windows. Move along...)
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posted on May, 1 2016 @ 08:58 AM
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The "RA Marterial" was written by man, like the bible and other ancient scripture.

Just a man, and his concepts of reality making it sound all majestic and supreme...

3rd density ... 4th density.... wtf. 3D is relating to geometric shapes; cubes, pyramids, the shape of our bodies or a tree. That which is a prism for consciousness and life force (electricity is life force, which "powers up" or emanates matter/geometry, look at yourself and your nervous system hardwire).

4D would be beyond the prism of geometry; light. That which transcends 3D space.

How mystical was that?

As for mandela effect; humans are forgetful and dishonest beings, especially with themselves.

Speaking of time shifts, alternative realities and other universes.... is everything but putting the X on the human subconscious mind.

The subconscious will insert whatever data makes sense to fill a memory gap. It's nothing universally changing other then your own brain and neuro network at work.

I'm scared of the future of this species, because they have literally.lost their minds.
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posted on Jun, 19 2016 @ 12:17 AM
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I have been experience the ME and have read the RA material. Just the other day I thought about the connection related to the "harvest" concepts. The thing is, if it IS the harvest, I can't figure out which type I fall into. I've always thought of myself as "harvestable" but I don't fee like I'm in a utopian density. Guess I failed, lol. Just as an aside, I had dinner once with Carla by pure synchronicity.

Other food for thought: Edgar Cayce also stated from his material that we are begining the 5th root race. I also thought that could be related to anatomical changes people are experiencing. Here is an excerpt - " Curiously, he pegged the rise of the Fifth Root Race between 1998 and 2015. No one knows why he never mentioned any other evolutionary leap beyond that. " and the article can be found here




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